Frames within Frames Question
Hello Framers, We have books with different text frames for left and right master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. Does anyone have a workaround for this? (It seems to contradict the very principle from which Framemaker gets its name!) While I'm at it, it is annoying and time-consuming to have to set run- around properties separately every time a graphics frame is inserted. Shouldn't there be a Preference for Always Run-around Bounding Box? (Mac FM 7.0, I'm on digest) Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Monaco212 777 5463 UNET 2 Corporation 212 777 5534 (fax) 80 East 11th Street 800 269 6422 (sales) New York NY 10003 http://UNET.net http://HEPDigital.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frames within Frames Question
Putting the illustration in an anchored frame, not a graphic frame, would be the standard way to do this, so that it floats and adjusts to the right/left layout changes according to the parameters of the paragraph tag... And as far as twiddling the default setting, there are at least one or two plug-ins that allow the preference to be set. Art On 5/1/07, James Monaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers, We have books with different text frames for left and right master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. Does anyone have a workaround for this? (It seems to contradict the very principle from which Framemaker gets its name!) While I'm at it, it is annoying and time-consuming to have to set run- around properties separately every time a graphics frame is inserted. Shouldn't there be a Preference for Always Run-around Bounding Box? (Mac FM 7.0, I'm on digest) Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Monaco212 777 5463 UNET 2 Corporation 212 777 5534 (fax) 80 East 11th Street 800 269 6422 (sales) New York NY 10003 http://UNET.net http://HEPDigital.com -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frames within Frames Question
James Monaco wrote: We have books with different text frames for left and right master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. It sounds like you're placing graphics frames on the page instead of anchoring them within the text flow. Look up anchored frames in the manual or help. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frames within Frames Question
Hello Framers, We have books with different text frames for left and right master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. Does anyone have a workaround for this? (It seems to contradict the very principle from which Framemaker gets its name!) While I'm at it, it is annoying and time-consuming to have to set run- around properties separately every time a graphics frame is inserted. Shouldn't there be a Preference for "Always Run-around Bounding Box"? (Mac FM 7.0, I'm on digest) Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Monaco212 777 5463 UNET 2 Corporation 212 777 5534 (fax) 80 East 11th Street 800 269 6422 (sales) New York NY 10003 http://UNET.net http://HEPDigital.com
Frames within Frames Question
Putting the illustration in an anchored frame, not a graphic frame, would be the standard way to do this, so that it floats and adjusts to the right/left layout changes according to the parameters of the paragraph tag... And as far as twiddling the default setting, there are at least one or two plug-ins that allow the preference to be set. Art On 5/1/07, James Monaco wrote: > Hello Framers, > > We have books with different text frames for left and right master > pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the > outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it > references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the > pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or > futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since > they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, > which has moved. > > Does anyone have a workaround for this? > > (It seems to contradict the very principle from which Framemaker gets > its name!) > > While I'm at it, it is annoying and time-consuming to have to set run- > around properties separately every time a graphics frame is inserted. > Shouldn't there be a Preference for "Always Run-around Bounding Box"? > > (Mac FM 7.0, I'm on digest) > > Thanks! > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > James Monaco212 777 5463 > UNET 2 Corporation 212 777 5534 (fax) > 80 East 11th Street 800 269 6422 (sales) > New York NY 10003 http://UNET.net http://HEPDigital.com > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Frames within Frames Question
James Monaco wrote: > We have books with different text frames for left and right > master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than > on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an > illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The > result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as > you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics > frames are often off-center since they are getting their > coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. It sounds like you're placing graphics frames on the page instead of anchoring them within the text flow. Look up "anchored frames" in the manual or help. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Frames within Frames Question
You'll need to place the anchor in a paragraph at the top of your desired page. Regardless of how it gets to the top, there are at least 3 ways to do this: 1-Put the anchor in the Figure/Table Title paragraph 2-Create a blank para and set the anchor position to At Insertion Point 3-Use the ol' 2pt Anchor para tag to minimize lost space at top of page I'll let everyone else debate the merits of each approach... -Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training, Inc. An Adobe Authorized Training Center www.grafixtraining.com 888 882-2819 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+matt=grafixtraining@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+matt=grafixtraining.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of James Monaco Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:39 AM To: brad Subject: Frames within Frames Question Hello Framers, We have books with different text frames for left and right master pages (in order to leave more space in the gutter than on the outside). When you insert a graphics frame for an illustration it references the page, not the text frame. The result is that if the pagination shifts, as it often does as you insert new graphics or futz with the text, the graphics frames are often off-center since they are getting their coordinates from the page, not the text frame, which has moved. Does anyone have a workaround for this? (It seems to contradict the very principle from which Framemaker gets its name!) While I'm at it, it is annoying and time-consuming to have to set run- around properties separately every time a graphics frame is inserted. Shouldn't there be a Preference for "Always Run-around Bounding Box"? (Mac FM 7.0, I'm on digest) Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Monaco212 777 5463 UNET 2 Corporation 212 777 5534 (fax) 80 East 11th Street 800 269 6422 (sales) New York NY 10003 http://UNET.net http://HEPDigital.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as matt at grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
