Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To make matters worse, no trace of what's happening is anywhere to be found. Nothing in any log files. The system doesn't drop into the kernel debugger, either. It's either a hard freeze or sudden reboot. I've tried rebuilding the chromium port, with both clang and gcc 4.6, to no avail. I've also updated the system sources several times this week and remade world/kernel. Nothing seems to help. I'm totally stumped as to how to determine what's going on here. Any suggestions as to how to obtain some useful info? Thanks! -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:15:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To make matters worse, no trace of what's happening is anywhere to be found. Nothing in any log files. The system doesn't drop into the kernel debugger, either. It's either a hard freeze or sudden reboot. I've tried rebuilding the chromium port, with both clang and gcc 4.6, to no avail. I've also updated the system sources several times this week and remade world/kernel. Nothing seems to help. I'm totally stumped as to how to determine what's going on here. Any suggestions as to how to obtain some useful info? To add to this, I've had the same problem on 10-CURRENT for several months now. -John ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildkernel fails
On 16-05-2012 23:41, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-05-16 23:18, Joel Dahl wrote: Hi, I did a buildworld+buildkernel on my workstation today and buildkernel fails with: cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/et/if_et.c Bus error (core dumped) *** [isci.ko.debug] Error code 138 1 error *** [all] Error code 2 1 error *** [modules-all] Error code 2 ctfconvert -L VERSION -g if_et.o 1 error *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 1 error *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 1 error My src tree is at the latest rev. No /usr/obj. I'm currently running CURRENT from May, 5th. I think you may be hitting the libthr issue that was introduced in r234947 (Thu May 3 09:17:31 2012 UTC) and fixed in r235068 (Sat May 5 23:51:24 2012 UTC). This caused some programs to randomly bomb out with bus errors or other weirdness. Please try building and installing lib/libthr (from your updated source tree) before running the rest of the world/kernel build. That fixed it. Thanks! -- Joel ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD and LDAP users, bug or feature?
Hi, I have a machine running FreeBSD and openldap24-server, and several client machines running FreeBSD and openldap24-client and I'm experiencing a weird behaviour with adduser/pw. I create my LDAP users on the LDAP server, with UIDs starting at 5001. Local users on the server and clients should start at UID 1001, but this does not really work. If I use adduser to create a new local user on one of the client machines, it'll automatically be assigned with UID 5002 - which I find very confusing. This also breaks my LDAP setup, because when I add an LDAP user on the server, it'll also get UID 5002. Running pw usernext on one of the client machines confirms this behaviour: root@crashbox [~] pw usernext 5002:5002 But looking inside my /etc/passwd on the same machine reveals that the next free UID should be 1002. So pw is obviously getting information from LDAP and tries to be friendly and automatically gives me the next free UID from LDAP - which would make sense if pw could create LDAP users in addition to local users, but it can't. So right now I'm forced to check /etc/passwd on my machines each time I add a new local user and manually use that UID whenever I run adduser or pw. It works, but it's easy to shoot myself in the foot. Is this intended behaviour, or a bug? Or perhaps a misconfiguration on my part? I can provide configuration examples from my environment, but there really isn't much to see - I haven't made many changes besides installing the required applications from ports (openldap,nss_ldap,pam_ldap), changed my nsswitch.conf and a couple of files in /etc/pam.d/. -- Joel ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new panic in cpu_reset() with WITNESS
on 25/01/2012 23:52 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 24/01/2012 14:32 Gleb Smirnoff said the following: Yes, now: Rebooting... lock order reversal: 1st 0x80937140 smp rendezvous (smp rendezvous) @ /usr/src/head/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:542 2nd 0xfe0001f5d838 uart_hwmtx (uart_hwmtx) @ /usr/src/head/sys/dev/uart/uart_cpu.h:92 panic: mtx_lock_spin: recursed on non-recursive mutex cnputs_mtx @ /usr/src/head/sys/kern/kern_cons.c:500 OK, so it's just a plain LOR between smp rendezvous and uart_hwmtx, no new details... It's still intriguing to me why the LOR *doesn't* happen [*] with stop_scheduler_on_panic=0. But I don't see a productive way to pursue this investigation further. Salve Glebius! After your recent nudging I took yet another look at this issue and it seems that I have some findings. For those who might get interested here is a convenience reference to the whole thread on gmane: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.current/139307 A short summary. Prerequisites: an SMP x86 system, its kernel is configured with WITNESS !WITNESS_SKIPSPIN (this is important) and a system uses serial console via uart. Then, if stop_scheduler_on_panic is set to zero the system can be rebooted without a problem. On the other hand, if stop_scheduler_on_panic is enabled, then the system first runs into a LOR when calling printf() in cpu_reset() and then it runs into a panic when printf is recursively called from witness(9) to report the LOR. The panic happens because of the recursion on cnputs_mtx, which should ensure that cnputs() output is not intermingled and which is not flagged to support recursion. There are two things about this report that greatly confused and puzzled me: 1. stop_scheduler_on_panic variable is used _only_ in panic(9). So how could it be possible that changing its value affects behavior of the system when panic(9) is not called?! 2. The LOR in question happens between smp rendezvous (smp_ipi_mtx) and uart_hwmtx (sc_hwmtx_s in uart core) spin locks. The order of these locks is actually predefined in witness order_lists[] such that uart_hwmtx must come before smp_ipi_mtx. But in the reboot path we first take smp_ipi_mtx in shutdown_reset(), then we call cpu_reset, then it calls printf and from there we get to uart_hwmtx for serial console output. So the order between these spinlocks is always violated in the x86 SMP reboot path. How come witness(9) doesn't _always_ detect this LOR? How come it didn't detect this LOR before any stop scheduler commits?! [Spoiler alert :-)] Turns out that the two puzzles above are closely related. Let's first list all the things that change when stop_scheduler_on_panic is enabled and a panic happens: - other CPUs are stopped (forced to spin) - interrupts on current CPU are disabled - by virtue of the above the current thread should be the only thread running (unless it executes a voluntary switch) - all locks are busted, they are completely ignored / bypassed - by virtue of the above no lock invariants and witness checks are performed, so no lock order checking, no recursion checking, etc So, what I observe is this: when stop_scheduler_on_panic is disabled, the LOR is actually detected as it should be. witness(9) works properly here. Once the LOR is detected witness(9) wants to report it using printf(9). That's where we run into the cnputs_mtx recursion panic. It's all exactly as with stop_scheduler_on_panic enabled. Then panic(9) wants to report the panic using printf(9), which goes to cnputs() again, where _mtx_lock_spin_flags() detects locks recursion again (this is independent of witness(9)) and calls panic(9) again. Then panic(9) wants to report the panic using printf(9)... I assume that when the stack is exhausted we run into a double fault and dblfault_handler wants to print something again... Likely we eventually run into a triple fault which resets the machine. Although, I recall some old reports of machines hanging during reboot in a place suspiciously close to where the described ordeal happens... But if the machine doesn't hang we get a full appearance of the reset successfully happening (modulo some last messages missing). With stop_scheduler_on_panic enabled and all the locks being ignored we, of course, do not run into any secondary lock recursions and resulting panics. So the system is able to at least panic gracefully (still we should have just reported the LOR gracefully, no panic is required). Some obvious conclusions: - the smp rendezvous and uart_hwmtx LOR is real and it is the true cause of the problem; it should be fixed one way or other - either by correcting witness order_lists[] or by avoiding the LOR in shutdown_reset/cpu_reset; - because witness(9) uses printf(9) to report problems, it is very fragile to use witness with any locks that can be acquired under printf(9) - stop_scheduler_on_panic just uncovers the true bug There are probably other conclusions that can
Re: make delete-old performance.
On 2012-05-17 05:18, b. f. wrote:... The slowdown is probably due - at least in part - to two factors: - the list of files to be checked for removal has grown substantially, because missing entries for old knobs and new entries for new knobs have been added; and - a new (and slower) method of checking was added in: http://svnweb.FreeBSD.org/base?view=revisionrevision=220255 because the old method broke down with the size of the new lists of files. Hm, maybe it would have been better to fix make, so it can accept arbitrarily long lists, without segfaulting? There's such a thing as malloc(), and I simply don't believe any of those lists could be larger than a few hundred kilobytes. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On 5/17/2012 2:11 AM, John Hixson wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:15:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To add to this, I've had the same problem on 10-CURRENT for several months now. Are you guys building ports with clang? There's a known bug with google-perftools, when it's built with clang, chrome will crash upon launch. chrome itself can be built with any compiler, but if google-perftools is built with clang, crash! http://code.google.com/p/gperftools/issues/detail?id=394 -- Chuck Burns ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and LDAP users, bug or feature?
Check man adduser.conf(5) There is an option for uidstart which should do what you want. If you set it to 1000 every time you run adduser it will show: # adduser Username: foo Full name: bar Uid [1000]: Don't worry -- it's just showing you the starting range. If there is already a UID of 1000 in use it will choose the next available. It's pretty nice because it even fills in holes if you remove users and then add new ones. However, that might be undesirable if you happen to leave files around from previous users and the new user gets the owning UID of those files hth ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new panic in cpu_reset() with WITNESS
2012/5/17, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org: on 25/01/2012 23:52 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 24/01/2012 14:32 Gleb Smirnoff said the following: Yes, now: Rebooting... lock order reversal: 1st 0x80937140 smp rendezvous (smp rendezvous) @ /usr/src/head/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:542 2nd 0xfe0001f5d838 uart_hwmtx (uart_hwmtx) @ /usr/src/head/sys/dev/uart/uart_cpu.h:92 panic: mtx_lock_spin: recursed on non-recursive mutex cnputs_mtx @ /usr/src/head/sys/kern/kern_cons.c:500 OK, so it's just a plain LOR between smp rendezvous and uart_hwmtx, no new details... It's still intriguing to me why the LOR *doesn't* happen [*] with stop_scheduler_on_panic=0. But I don't see a productive way to pursue this investigation further. Salve Glebius! After your recent nudging I took yet another look at this issue and it seems that I have some findings. For those who might get interested here is a convenience reference to the whole thread on gmane: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.current/139307 A short summary. Prerequisites: an SMP x86 system, its kernel is configured with WITNESS !WITNESS_SKIPSPIN (this is important) and a system uses serial console via uart. Then, if stop_scheduler_on_panic is set to zero the system can be rebooted without a problem. On the other hand, if stop_scheduler_on_panic is enabled, then the system first runs into a LOR when calling printf() in cpu_reset() and then it runs into a panic when printf is recursively called from witness(9) to report the LOR. The panic happens because of the recursion on cnputs_mtx, which should ensure that cnputs() output is not intermingled and which is not flagged to support recursion. There are two things about this report that greatly confused and puzzled me: 1. stop_scheduler_on_panic variable is used _only_ in panic(9). So how could it be possible that changing its value affects behavior of the system when panic(9) is not called?! 2. The LOR in question happens between smp rendezvous (smp_ipi_mtx) and uart_hwmtx (sc_hwmtx_s in uart core) spin locks. The order of these locks is actually predefined in witness order_lists[] such that uart_hwmtx must come before smp_ipi_mtx. But in the reboot path we first take smp_ipi_mtx in shutdown_reset(), then we call cpu_reset, then it calls printf and from there we get to uart_hwmtx for serial console output. So the order between these spinlocks is always violated in the x86 SMP reboot path. How come witness(9) doesn't _always_ detect this LOR? How come it didn't detect this LOR before any stop scheduler commits?! [Spoiler alert :-)] Turns out that the two puzzles above are closely related. Let's first list all the things that change when stop_scheduler_on_panic is enabled and a panic happens: - other CPUs are stopped (forced to spin) - interrupts on current CPU are disabled - by virtue of the above the current thread should be the only thread running (unless it executes a voluntary switch) - all locks are busted, they are completely ignored / bypassed - by virtue of the above no lock invariants and witness checks are performed, so no lock order checking, no recursion checking, etc So, what I observe is this: when stop_scheduler_on_panic is disabled, the LOR is actually detected as it should be. witness(9) works properly here. Once the LOR is detected witness(9) wants to report it using printf(9). That's where we run into the cnputs_mtx recursion panic. It's all exactly as with stop_scheduler_on_panic enabled. Then panic(9) wants to report the panic using printf(9), which goes to cnputs() again, where _mtx_lock_spin_flags() detects locks recursion again (this is independent of witness(9)) and calls panic(9) again. Then panic(9) wants to report the panic using printf(9)... I assume that when the stack is exhausted we run into a double fault and dblfault_handler wants to print something again... Likely we eventually run into a triple fault which resets the machine. Although, I recall some old reports of machines hanging during reboot in a place suspiciously close to where the described ordeal happens... But if the machine doesn't hang we get a full appearance of the reset successfully happening (modulo some last messages missing). With stop_scheduler_on_panic enabled and all the locks being ignored we, of course, do not run into any secondary lock recursions and resulting panics. So the system is able to at least panic gracefully (still we should have just reported the LOR gracefully, no panic is required). Some obvious conclusions: - the smp rendezvous and uart_hwmtx LOR is real and it is the true cause of the problem; it should be fixed one way or other - either by correcting witness order_lists[] or by avoiding the LOR in shutdown_reset/cpu_reset; - because witness(9) uses printf(9) to report problems, it is very fragile to use witness with any locks that can be
Re: ACPI 'driver bug: Unable to set devclass'
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:07:43 pm John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:18:25 pm Andriy Gapon wrote: on 16/05/2012 17:50 John Baldwin said the following: On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:35:12 pm Andriy Gapon wrote: Not sure what you disagree with... First, the wildcard device is added to the child list during the walk. Then, the unit 0 device is added to the list when acpi_timer identify is executed. Then, the wildcard device is probed and gets unit number of zero. Then, the fixed device is being probed and the unit number conflict arises. Am I misunderstanding something? Yes. The third step will see that unit 0 is already in use and shouldn't reuse unit 0. Looks like I missed the call to devclass_add_device() in make_device(). Your guess: I wonder if this is related to the recent changes to set the unit number for CPUs? seems to be true. The device_t-s created for CPUs have NULL driver name / devclass, but a non-wildcard unit number. So when such a device with unit number 0 is probed by acpi_timer we get a unit number conflict with acpi_timer0 pre-created via the identify. Similarly we get conflicts for acpi_sysresource driver, because we do an early probe-and-attach for this driver and the attached devices get some unit numbers (0, 1, etc). So when during the normal probe pass the CPU devices with matching unit numbers are passed to the driver the conflict results. I guess that it is an unorthodox use of newbus to specify a unit number without specifying a driver name... It's like saying this device must be unit N whatever driver claims it (be it kbdN or diskN) just because I say so. Not sure if this ever makes sense and maybe we should prohibit such a combination (reject it earlier). I guess that in this particular case we already know that the devices are really CPU devices and are going to be claimed by acpi cpu driver. So we should pass cpu as the name. Oh, whoops. Actually, the right way to do this I think is bus_hint_device_unit() (and/or, not make the unit number in cpuX mean anything at all, but use a separate ivar to track what PCPU_GET(cpuid) a given cpuX device corresponds to). I think the last approach is really the right way to fix this. I haven't been able to try this yet, but I have a first cut at www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/acpi_cpu.patch -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ethernet Drivers: Question on ifp-if_ioctl invocation for SIOCADDMULTI and SIOCDELMULTI
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:41:25 pm David Somayajulu wrote: Hi All, When ifp-if_ioctl() is invoked for the ioctl cmd SIOCADDMULTI, IN_MULTI_LOCK() is called in one of the functions in_joingroup() in the caller stack. From netinet/in_var.h, line 357 : #define IN_MULTI_LOCK() mtx_lock(in_multi_mtx) From netinet/in_mcast.c 1098 in_joingroup(struct ifnet *ifp, const struct in_addr *gina, 1099 /*const*/ struct in_mfilter *imf, struct in_multi **pinm) 1100 { 1101 int error; 1102 1103 IN_MULTI_LOCK(); 1104 error = in_joingroup_locked(ifp, gina, imf, pinm); 1105 IN_MULTI_UNLOCK(); 1106 This is also the case for SIOCDELMULTI, where the function holding in_multi_mtx lock is in_leavegroup() This poses a problem in the driver in that the hardware dependent function performing it, is not allowed to sleep() in case it needs to poll some state. Question: 1. If I want to implement any delays - for the above case - in the driver using DELAY(usec) macro, is there a maximum amount of time that the driver is allowed to complete this function? I am concerned that if it takes to too long I might run into a soft_lockup() situation. 2. Is it o.k to defer the processing in a separate in a separate thread which can sleep() ? You can always queue a task to update the MAC table if you need to use a sleep. -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On 2012-05-17 14:20, Chuck Burns wrote: On 5/17/2012 2:11 AM, John Hixson wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:15:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To add to this, I've had the same problem on 10-CURRENT for several months now. Are you guys building ports with clang? There's a known bug with google-perftools, when it's built with clang, chrome will crash upon launch. Please note the OP is talking about a complete system crash and/or restart, not just chrome itself crashing. chrome itself can be built with any compiler, but if google-perftools is built with clang, crash! http://code.google.com/p/gperftools/issues/detail?id=394 There seem to be several problems with gperftools; compiled with gcc 4.2.1, there are at least 3 failures in its test suite (of 40 tests). Compiled with gcc 4.7 it doesn't even compile, since it erroneously tries to use backtrace_symbols(), which we don't provide. Compiled with clang 3.1, there are 12 failures. I assume this is because it is doing all kinds of tricky things with threads and re-implementing Yet Another Malloc, which seems to be very hard, as recent experience with head has shown. :) In any case, a good start would be to attempt to diagnose all the test failures that occur with clang only, to see if they indicate a problem in gperftools or clang itself. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ACPI 'driver bug: Unable to set devclass'
on 17/05/2012 17:05 John Baldwin said the following: On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:07:43 pm John Baldwin wrote: Oh, whoops. Actually, the right way to do this I think is bus_hint_device_unit() (and/or, not make the unit number in cpuX mean anything at all, but use a separate ivar to track what PCPU_GET(cpuid) a given cpuX device corresponds to). I think the last approach is really the right way to fix this. I haven't been able to try this yet, but I have a first cut at www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/acpi_cpu.patch The patch has not been compile-tested? :) -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make delete-old performance.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 02:13:40PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-05-17 05:18, b. f. wrote:... The slowdown is probably due - at least in part - to two factors: - the list of files to be checked for removal has grown substantially, because missing entries for old knobs and new entries for new knobs have been added; and - a new (and slower) method of checking was added in: http://svnweb.FreeBSD.org/base?view=revisionrevision=220255 because the old method broke down with the size of the new lists of files. Hm, maybe it would have been better to fix make, so it can accept arbitrarily long lists, without segfaulting? There's such a thing as malloc(), and I simply don't believe any of those lists could be larger than a few hundred kilobytes. Alternatively, make could be fixed so that the original code works. Although an invocation like sh -c 'for file in VERY_LONG_LIST; do something; done' will bump into {ARG_MAX}, the shell itself does not have a fixed limitation so longer command lines can be written to a temporary file and passed to sh that way. In some cases (such as with -j), make always uses a temporary file, slowing things down and obscuring ps output. At the cost of needing the temporary file named a bit longer, it is better to pass the pathname to sh rather than feeding the script on standard input: this avoids interfering with terminal input and is potentially faster. The code currently in Makefile.inc1 can probably be sped up by passing the output of the make -V command to something like xargs sh -c 'for file do rm -i ${DESTDIR}/${file}; done' sh instead of the xargs -n1 | while read file; do ...; done loop. (Note the second sh at the end, which serves as a value for $0 so all strings from xargs become positional parameters.) -- Jilles Tjoelker ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
GCC update for testing
Hi; I took a bunch of patches that were merged into the GCC 4.1 branch (under GPLv2) and prepared a patch for merging them into our base gcc. These are supposed to be bug fixes only. You can get the patch here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/patch-contrib-gcc And, for those really interested, the log is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/gcc41-pr-log It may be my imagination but the patch seems to be causing more warnings than usual and it breaks the kernel here: $ make cc -c -O2 -Os -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon64 -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c: In function 'samount': ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1887: warning: 'comp_supported' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1888: warning: 'write_protect' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1887: warning: 'comp_enabled' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: warning: 'current_speed' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: note: 'current_speed' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2727: warning: 'current_density' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2727: note: 'current_density' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: warning: 'current_blocksize' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: note: 'current_blocksize' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: warning: 'current_speed' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: note: 'current_speed' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: warning: 'current_blocksize' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: note: 'current_blocksize' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: warning: 'current_speed' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: note: 'current_speed' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: warning: 'current_blocksize' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: note: 'current_blocksize' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: warning: 'current_speed' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2728: note: 'current_speed' was declared here ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: warning: 'current_blocksize' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:2725: note: 'current_blocksize' was declared here *** Error code 1 ... Other stuff I tested (Apache OpenOffice) builds fine. cheers, Pedro. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
These kinds of hard locks often point at graphics driver problems, but normally Chrome relies on a driver whitelist that likely doesn't include any FreeBSD drivers. Did you perhaps set a flag somewhere to bypass a blacklist? You could try some command line flags like --blacklist-accelerated-compositing --blacklist-webgl to see if they help. (I found those on http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/ , not certain if they do what you need.) Another idea is to use strace/ktrace/truss into a log file to see what it was doing around the time of dying. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To make matters worse, no trace of what's happening is anywhere to be found. Nothing in any log files. The system doesn't drop into the kernel debugger, either. It's either a hard freeze or sudden reboot. I've tried rebuilding the chromium port, with both clang and gcc 4.6, to no avail. I've also updated the system sources several times this week and remade world/kernel. Nothing seems to help. I'm totally stumped as to how to determine what's going on here. Any suggestions as to how to obtain some useful info? Thanks! -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-chrom...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chromium To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-chromium-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GCC update for testing
On 2012-05-17 17:44, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I took a bunch of patches that were merged into the GCC 4.1 branch (under GPLv2) and prepared a patch for merging them into our base gcc. These are supposed to be bug fixes only. You can get the patch here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/patch-contrib-gcc And, for those really interested, the log is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/gcc41-pr-log It may be my imagination but the patch seems to be causing more warnings than usual and it breaks the kernel here: ... ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c: In function 'samount': ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1887: warning: 'comp_supported' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1888: warning: 'write_protect' may be used uninitialized in this function These warnings seem wrong, upon casual inspection of the code. In any case, if you compile the same file with gcc 4.7, they don't appear. :) Any idea which particular gcc fix is responsible for them? As a workaround, we could set all those variable to some reasonable value, but that feels like a cheap trick to me... But I'd rather just not import the fix that causes those warnings. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and LDAP users, bug or feature?
On 17-05-2012 8:24, Mark Felder wrote: Check man adduser.conf(5) There is an option for uidstart which should do what you want. If you set it to 1000 every time you run adduser it will show: Thanks, setting uidstart to 1000 indeed works around the problem. :) However, I would still like to know if this is intended behaviour. -- Joel ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
VNET jails freebsd 9.0
Hi, i was trying to make jail, under VB 4.1.14r77440 WINDOWS7 as host, using this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-build.html http://wiki.polymorf.fr/index.php/Howto:FreeBSD_jail_vnet I set everything like wiki says, recompiled kernel and patched /etc/rc.d/jail, but when i try to do: /etc/rc.d/netif cloneup i get: ifconfig: create: bad value At startup i get: Starting jails:epair0a: Ethernet address: 02:c0:84:00:05:0a epair0b: Ethernet address: 02:c0:84:00:06:0b epair0a cannot start jail misc tail: /tmp/jail.qqSQ0EB4/jail.17: No such file or directory . /etc/rc: WARNING: Ignoring scratch file /etc/rc.d/jail.orig Sorry if some information are missing but i don't know what to attach /etc/rc.conf: http://wklej.to/VUy3l /etc/jails/misc.conf: http://wklej.to/vQVxW dmesg: http://wklej.to/jJiqO Can someone tell me whats wrong? Best regards, Krzysztof K. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GCC update for testing
Hi Dimitry; On 05/17/12 11:44, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2012-05-17 17:44, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I took a bunch of patches that were merged into the GCC 4.1 branch (under GPLv2) and prepared a patch for merging them into our base gcc. These are supposed to be bug fixes only. You can get the patch here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/patch-contrib-gcc And, for those really interested, the log is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/gcc41-pr-log It may be my imagination but the patch seems to be causing more warnings than usual and it breaks the kernel here: ... ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c: In function 'samount': ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1887: warning: 'comp_supported' may be used uninitialized in this function ../../../cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c:1888: warning: 'write_protect' may be used uninitialized in this function These warnings seem wrong, upon casual inspection of the code. In any case, if you compile the same file with gcc 4.7, they don't appear. :) Any idea which particular gcc fix is responsible for them? As a workaround, we could set all those variable to some reasonable value, but that feels like a cheap trick to me... But I'd rather just not import the fix that causes those warnings. I will have to dig deeper into the changes to see what causes this. In any case I do agree and the patch will not be committed. Ultimately I can just leave the list around and we bring them in only as needed. Pedro. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ACPI 'driver bug: Unable to set devclass'
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:33:56 am Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/05/2012 17:05 John Baldwin said the following: On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:07:43 pm John Baldwin wrote: Oh, whoops. Actually, the right way to do this I think is bus_hint_device_unit() (and/or, not make the unit number in cpuX mean anything at all, but use a separate ivar to track what PCPU_GET(cpuid) a given cpuX device corresponds to). I think the last approach is really the right way to fix this. I haven't been able to try this yet, but I have a first cut at www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/acpi_cpu.patch The patch has not been compile-tested? :) Not yet. I'll try to test it later today unless someone beats me to it. :-P -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com wrote: You guys DO realize that's a troll website, right? And you're being seriously trolled.. right? The URL is legit! This is noes trollz! -- chs, ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[panic] zfs_zget() panic during 'svn update'
Hi, I'm running -CURRENT from a few weeks ago (r234559M), and during 'svn update', had the machine panic. I have kgdb output available here, and am happy to provide additional information if needed: http://people.freebsd.org/~gjb/zfs_zget-panic.kgdb.txt Regards, Glen ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: random device not loaded; using insecure entropy during boot
on 14/05/2012 21:17 Bruce Cran said the following: While booting -current I noticed a new warning introduced in r230230** http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=230230 (though it's not in 'dmesg' once booted): FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 5 random device not loaded; using insecure entropy I guess something's wanting random data before its been initialized? Once booted kern.random shows that it is loaded and working. It seems that the message is triggered by __stack_chk_init. I am not sure if we really need a secure random value there. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and LDAP users, bug or feature?
On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:41:19 -0500, Joel Dahl j...@vnode.se wrote: Thanks, setting uidstart to 1000 indeed works around the problem. :) However, I would still like to know if this is intended behaviour. I'm not sure but hopefully someone here can answer that for you. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [review request] usr.sbin/service - make showing files configurable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/14/2012 06:35, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 5/13/2012 6:15 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/12/2012 8:23 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: Hi, I found service(8) to be inconsistent that it listed files with `service -e`, but plain services with `service -l` That behavior is by design. Could you please elaborate on the design decision? For services that are enabled (IOW, a tiny subset of the overall number) I thought it was useful to indicate to the user where those services come from. The -l option dumps everything in the directories, even if it's not a service. Users interested in differentiating /etc/rc.d from $local_startup can use ls. I did of course look in base for uses of service -e and service -l, before considering this patch. The only case I can find is in a cshrc example, which my patch does not affect. That's not relevant, as you cannot possibly know what other uses service(1) is being put to. Also, it's bad form to change the default output of a tool (and/or the semantics of its command line options) years after its introduction. I had expected service -e to behave like service -l, so I could for example, put it into a loop and check all services, using the service(8) script itself. for service_name in `service -e`; do service status $service_name || service start $service_name; done for service in `service -e` ; do service ${##*/service} status || service ${##*/service} start done (Note, your syntax for the service command is wrong above.) hth, Doug - -- This .signature sanitized for your protection -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJPtW+MAAoJEFzGhvEaGryEpokH/RbWnJZN/RCQzidxoIbAx0+5 nAEX33e0Iazfqs/km7uFP8T/4SD2b0pOmr3dNBaKHqnpz005ACzhTcWD111ik/d2 ypRKdzh+vlq+Y9bDB4PozMjnalZrhkAUIinUIDDH6xMW46fIbN2bXPqz8AIe1Umo a8LaHW59ARJf197o7iyWNOYOcF6+S3haaSzu8UXL5MTDtKBpn5XY5Eg6ppc/ZD9J Mzaq1k7baCrGqCSsyZusmCv7WWDcOw7tOspUKzoNMm+wBMf7MrQyPUQsaA9vfGXZ cB39Byryvi9Rhbz/ACjgw44ZRVUcjWJaxkFVc5WwkLbCDTv4tny5q2KpIAHfhPk= =ykfV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [review request] usr.sbin/service - make showing files configurable
On 5/17/2012 4:37 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 05/14/2012 06:35, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 5/13/2012 6:15 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/12/2012 8:23 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: Hi, I found service(8) to be inconsistent that it listed files with `service -e`, but plain services with `service -l` That behavior is by design. Could you please elaborate on the design decision? For services that are enabled (IOW, a tiny subset of the overall number) I thought it was useful to indicate to the user where those services come from. The -l option dumps everything in the directories, even if it's not a service. Users interested in differentiating /etc/rc.d from $local_startup can use ls. Thanks for explaining. I did of course look in base for uses of service -e and service -l, before considering this patch. The only case I can find is in a cshrc example, which my patch does not affect. That's not relevant, as you cannot possibly know what other uses service(1) is being put to. Also, it's bad form to change the default output of a tool (and/or the semantics of its command line options) years after its introduction. True. I had expected service -e to behave like service -l, so I could for example, put it into a loop and check all services, using the service(8) script itself. for service_name in `service -e`; do service status $service_name || service start $service_name; done for service in `service -e` ; do service ${##*/service} status || service ${##*/service} start done Yes, I resorted to that before the patch. I just think consistency is better. (Note, your syntax for the service command is wrong above.) Yeah it's what I get for mashing a pseudo example up and not testing it! hth, Doug Thank you, Bryan Drewery ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ports/bash4 --enable-static fails
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 05:56 -0700, Chet Ramey wrote: On 5/10/12 12:20 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Bash is trying to override the malloc() functions in libc with its own implementation in lib/malloc/malloc.c . I have seen this type of trick before 3rd party code that tries to override the libc implementation of malloc() / free() with its own. kan@ explained this to me before, but I don't know if I can explain it as well as him, because it has to do with how static linking works. :) Basically, the malloc.o object from bash, *must* have implementations of *all* the relevant functions in jemalloc_jemalloc.o in order for malloc.o to properly override jemalloc_jemalloc.o. If you have something like: jemalloc_jemalloc.o (libc) malloc.o (Bash) === = malloc() malloc() free() free() calloc() realloc() the static linker will not be able to replace jemalloc_jemalloc.o from libc with malloc.o from Bash, because calloc() and realloc() symbols in jemalloc_jemalloc.o (libc) do not exist malloc.o (Bash). Since the linker can only deal with whole objects (.o files), it will try to pull in both jemalloc_jemalloc.o and malloc.o when doing static linking. I may have got some of the details/explanation wrong, but I have fixed something similar to this in 3rd party code, when the layout of malloc() functions in libc changed between FreeBSD 4 and FreeBSD 6. This explanation is substantially correct. What you need to do is: (1) run nm or readelf on jemalloc_jemalloc.o, then run nm or readelf on malloc.o (2) Look at the symbols in both (3) Add the missing symbols to malloc.c in Bash The bash malloc includes definitions for malloc/free/realloc/calloc/cfree/ valloc/memalign. I'd be interested in knowing what other global symbols jemalloc exports. I'd also be interested in seeing how someone managed to compile the bash malloc and leave out realloc. Chet Just to kind of close the loop here, we went ahead and changed our local build of bash to do: ./configure --enable-static-link --without-bash-malloc This matches the ports implementation, so we have moved on here. Sean ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [review request] usr.sbin/service - make showing files configurable
On 05/17/2012 02:51 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: Yeah it's what I get for mashing a pseudo example up and not testing it! S'ok, I screwed up ${service##*/} in mine. :) ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On Thu, 17 May 2012 08:55:49 -0700 Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: These kinds of hard locks often point at graphics driver problems, but normally Chrome relies on a driver whitelist that likely doesn't include any FreeBSD drivers. Did you perhaps set a flag somewhere to bypass a blacklist? You could try some command line flags like --blacklist-accelerated-compositing --blacklist-webgl to see if they help. (I found those on http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/ , not certain if they do what you need.) Another idea is to use strace/ktrace/truss into a log file to see what it was doing around the time of dying. Thanks. I tried those, and it still locked up. I finally just moved away ~/.config/chromium, and it started up OK. Luckily, I was able to restore pretty much everything from my synced data. Happy ending. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On Thu, 17 May 2012 16:12:15 -0700 Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: Thanks. I tried those, and it still locked up. I finally just moved away ~/.config/chromium, and it started up OK. Luckily, I was able to restore pretty much everything from my synced data. It's a little surprising to me that a userspace app is able to nuke your system, but perhaps the bug is just something mundane like out of control memory allocations and it's just swapping. Yes, that *is* a little troubling. I'm always touting FreeBSD to people as being a rock-solid platform, so I was slightly embarrassed when this happened several times recently when I had a friend over. :-) I'm looking into some sysctl settings now that do seem to have the ability to trigger odd behavior with certain apps, e.g., kern.maxfiles, kern.maxfilesperproc, various shared mem settings, etc. Some apps will either mysteriously refuse to run, or crash just after startup, depending on the settings of these and similar. My chrome problem was no doubt related to my recently having tinkered with some chrome://flags settings. Conservatism and caution definitely seem to be called for with these! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On Thu, 17 May 2012 07:20:51 -0500 Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/17/2012 2:11 AM, John Hixson wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:15:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: For the last week or so, I've been unable to run chrome. Any attempt to start it up will cause the system either to freeze up or reboot. To add to this, I've had the same problem on 10-CURRENT for several months now. Are you guys building ports with clang? There's a known bug with google-perftools, when it's built with clang, chrome will crash upon launch. chrome itself can be built with any compiler, but if google-perftools is built with clang, crash! http://code.google.com/p/gperftools/issues/detail?id=394 Ah, yes, I remember you mentioning this a month or two ago (at least, I think it was you). Thanks for the reminder. I'm gonna make sure my /etc/make.conf specifies gcc for that port. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chrome crashing system (amd64-10.0-CURRENT)
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: Thanks. I tried those, and it still locked up. I finally just moved away ~/.config/chromium, and it started up OK. Luckily, I was able to restore pretty much everything from my synced data. It's a little surprising to me that a userspace app is able to nuke your system, but perhaps the bug is just something mundane like out of control memory allocations and it's just swapping. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from the App Store and having the installer just work in a modern GUI. You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a boon. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no wrote: Vance Siemens vance.siem...@gmail.com writes: Can you share a brief overview of what's wrong with it? Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD never had to jettison two thirds of its code base and start from scratch. Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or Darwin version includes FreeBSD. FreeBSD and Mac OS X will never merge. FreeBSD was never acquired by WinDriver Systems or by anyone else, although a company named WindRiver Systems (makers of the embedded operating system VxWorks, not of Windows video drivers) did at one point acquire BSDI, which had previously acquired Walnut Creek CD-ROM, which was heavily involved in the early history of both FreeBSD and Slackware Linux. The remains of Walnut Creek CD-ROM and BSDI are now known as FreeBSD Mall and iXsystems (of PC-BSD and FreeNAS fame). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
What, 8bit color ANSI isn't GUI enough? But seriously, it feels like it works even worse then it did a decade ago. Rick Hamell Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Vance Siemens vance.siem...@gmail.com wrote: Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from the App Store and having the installer just work in a modern GUI. You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a boon. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no wrote: Vance Siemens vance.siem...@gmail.com writes: Can you share a brief overview of what's wrong with it? Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD never had to jettison two thirds of its code base and start from scratch. Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or Darwin version includes FreeBSD. FreeBSD and Mac OS X will never merge. FreeBSD was never acquired by WinDriver Systems or by anyone else, although a company named WindRiver Systems (makers of the embedded operating system VxWorks, not of Windows video drivers) did at one point acquire BSDI, which had previously acquired Walnut Creek CD-ROM, which was heavily involved in the early history of both FreeBSD and Slackware Linux. The remains of Walnut Creek CD-ROM and BSDI are now known as FreeBSD Mall and iXsystems (of PC-BSD and FreeNAS fame). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___ freebsd-c...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org