Re: Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-25 Thread Chip Wiegand
Gary W. Swearingen wrote this stuff on 25 Oct 2002 11:18:53 -0700:

> Chip Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > It's working now, I did have to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh
> > info manually. Seems I recall reading something about X not needing
> > those anymore after v4.1.0, but maybe not.
> 
> My /var/log/XFree86.0.log has this line
> (II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 160 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 95
> kHz, PixClock max 210 MHz which seems to be related to this nearby
> prior line(II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized.
> 
> Note that the lines have "(II)", not "(**)".
> 
> I suppose that if your monitor supports the I2C/DDC protocol (AKA
> PnP?), then X can get the "Ranges" as above and use it.  I had
> hand-entered the same numbers from the Monitor's spec sheet, so I
> don't know if it actually works automatically.

It supposedly supports DDC, but I guess it's a bit flakey. Anyway, I
manually set the parameters in the XF86Config file, now it's working
fine.
Thanks,
Chip W

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Re: Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-25 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Chip Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It's working now, I did have to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh
> info manually. Seems I recall reading something about X not needing
> those anymore after v4.1.0, but maybe not.

My /var/log/XFree86.0.log has this line
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 160 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 95 kHz, PixClock 
max 210 MHz
which seems to be related to this nearby prior line
(II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized.

Note that the lines have "(II)", not "(**)".

I suppose that if your monitor supports the I2C/DDC protocol (AKA PnP?),
then X can get the "Ranges" as above and use it.  I had hand-entered the
same numbers from the Monitor's spec sheet, so I don't know if it
actually works automatically.


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Re: Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-25 Thread Chip Wiegand
It's working now, I did have to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh
info manually. Seems I recall reading something about X not needing
those anymore after v4.1.0, but maybe not.
Anyway,
Thanks to all.
--
Chip W

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote this stuff on Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:13:18 -0400:

> At 10:35 PM 10/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, I had a similar problem.
> First, I think you need the vertical and horizontal frequencies in the
> 
> Monitor section-
> Mine is:
> HorizSync   30.0 - 95.0
> VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
> 
> This is specific to my kSony Trinitron MultiscanE500 - Yours will be
> different. I found that the default Depth did nothing for me, so I
> didn't enter it. Then, you will have to experiment with the Depth and
> Mode settings until you get one that works - this may be dependent on
> the video memory of your card.
> I got mine to work with Depth 8 and Modes "1280x1024" "1024x728" and
> Depth 16 and Modes "1280x1024" "1024x728"  ; my card is supposed to
> support 1600x1200 and depth of 24 (I think), but what the hell, it
> works quite well. Good luck,
> PJ
> 
> >Okay, I have X running in 640x480 or 320x240 modes.
> >As you can see in the XFree86Config file below it is set
> >to display at higher resolutions. I know the monitor will
> >do it because the box dual-boots win2k and it runs the
> >graphics at 1024x768/16bit.
> >I added an old AGP video card, disabled the onboard video.
> >Why is the system ignoring the settings for the screens?
> >--
> >Chip W
> >
> >-
> >Section "ServerLayout"
> >Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
> >Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Files"
> >RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> >ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> >FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> >FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
> >FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> >FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> >FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Module"
> >Load  "dbe"
> >Load  "dri"
> >Load  "extmod"
> >Load  "glx"
> >Load  "pex5"
> >Load  "record"
> >Load  "xie"
> >Load  "xtrap"
> >Load  "speedo"
> >Load  "type1"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "InputDevice"
> >Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> >Driver  "keyboard"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "InputDevice"
> >Identifier  "Mouse0"
> >Driver  "mouse"
> >Option  "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
> >Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Monitor"
> >#DisplaySize  260   200 # mm
> >Identifier   "Monitor0"
> >VendorName   "ADI"
> >ModelName"741"
> >Option  "DPMS"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Device"
> >### Available Driver options are:-
> >### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> >### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> >### [arg]: arg optional
> >#Option "accel" # []
> >#Option "crt_screen"# []
> >#Option "composite_sync"# []
> >#Option "hw_cursor" # []
> >#Option "linear"# []
> >#Option "mmio_cache"# []
> >#Option "probe_clocks"  # []
> >#Option "reference_clock"   # 
> >#Option "shadow_fb" # []
> >#Option "sw_cursor" # []
> >Identifier  "Card0"
> >Driver  "ati"
> >VendorName  "ATI"
> >BoardName   "Mach64 GD"
> >ChipSet "ati"
> >ChipId  0x4744
> >ChipRev 0x5c
> >BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> >EndSection
> >
> >Section "Screen"
> >Identifier "Screen0"
> >Device "Card0"
> >Monitor"Monitor0"
> >DefaultDepth 16
> >
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 1
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 4
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 8
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 15
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 16
> >Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Depth 24
> >EndSubSection
> >EndSection
> >
> >
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Re: Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-25 Thread pippo
At 10:35 PM 10/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:

For what it's worth, I had a similar problem.
First, I think you need the vertical and horizontal frequencies in the 
Monitor section-
Mine is:
HorizSync   30.0 - 95.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0

This is specific to my kSony Trinitron MultiscanE500 - Yours will be different.
I found that the default Depth did nothing for me, so I didn't enter it.
Then, you will have to experiment with the Depth and Mode settings until 
you get one that works - this may be dependent on the video memory of your 
card.
I got mine to work with Depth 8 and Modes "1280x1024" "1024x728" and Depth 
16 and Modes "1280x1024" "1024x728"  ; my card is supposed to support 
1600x1200 and depth of 24 (I think), but what the hell, it works quite well.
Good luck,
PJ

Okay, I have X running in 640x480 or 320x240 modes.
As you can see in the XFree86Config file below it is set
to display at higher resolutions. I know the monitor will
do it because the box dual-boots win2k and it runs the
graphics at 1024x768/16bit.
I added an old AGP video card, disabled the onboard video.
Why is the system ignoring the settings for the screens?
--
Chip W

-
Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "pex5"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xie"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "speedo"
   Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   #DisplaySize  260   200 # mm
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "ADI"
   ModelName"741"
   Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "accel" # []
   #Option "crt_screen"# []
   #Option "composite_sync"# []
   #Option "hw_cursor" # []
   #Option "linear"# []
   #Option "mmio_cache"# []
   #Option "probe_clocks"  # []
   #Option "reference_clock"   # 
   #Option "shadow_fb" # []
   #Option "sw_cursor" # []
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "ati"
   VendorName  "ATI"
   BoardName   "Mach64 GD"
   ChipSet "ati"
   ChipId  0x4744
   ChipRev 0x5c
   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"
   DefaultDepth 16

   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 8
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 15
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 16
   Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 24
   EndSubSection
EndSection



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Re: Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:35:01PM -0700, chip wrote:
> Okay, I have X running in 640x480 or 320x240 modes.
> As you can see in the XFree86Config file below it is set
> to display at higher resolutions. I know the monitor will
> do it because the box dual-boots win2k and it runs the
> graphics at 1024x768/16bit.

> Section "Monitor"
>#DisplaySize  260   200 # mm
>Identifier   "Monitor0"
>VendorName   "ADI"
>ModelName"741"
>Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection

If you consult the documentation for your monitor you should find what
range of Horizontal Sync. and Vertical Refresh frequencies it can cope
with.  Insert those numbers in the monitor section above, eg:

HorizSync30.0-50.0
VertRefresh  40-90

[Be sure to use the correct figures for your particular make of
monitor: it used to be the case that running a monitor at too high a
frequency would cause it to burn up.  Nowadays, the monitor will just
blank to protect itself, but still, too high a frequency is not good
for it.]

et. voila X will be able to run at the highest resolutions your
monitor will support, rather than the very conservative defaults it's
using now.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Xfree86 Setup problem continued with changes

2002-10-24 Thread chip
Okay, I have X running in 640x480 or 320x240 modes.
As you can see in the XFree86Config file below it is set
to display at higher resolutions. I know the monitor will
do it because the box dual-boots win2k and it runs the
graphics at 1024x768/16bit.
I added an old AGP video card, disabled the onboard video.
Why is the system ignoring the settings for the screens?
--
Chip W

-
Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "pex5"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xie"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "speedo"
   Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   #DisplaySize  260   200 # mm
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "ADI"
   ModelName"741"
   Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "accel" # []
   #Option "crt_screen"# []
   #Option "composite_sync"# []
   #Option "hw_cursor" # []
   #Option "linear"# []
   #Option "mmio_cache"# []
   #Option "probe_clocks"  # []
   #Option "reference_clock"   # 
   #Option "shadow_fb" # []
   #Option "sw_cursor" # []
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "ati"
   VendorName  "ATI"
   BoardName   "Mach64 GD"
   ChipSet "ati"
   ChipId  0x4744
   ChipRev 0x5c
   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"
   DefaultDepth 16

   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 8
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 15
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 16
   Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth 24
   EndSubSection
EndSection



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