Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:32:36 -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > I agree about using Kmail with KDE; it is a well-designed > mail program. However, using Kmail with Gnome was a horrible > experience; it drags in and keeps starting up nepomuk and its > friends, and chews up much of one's CPU capacity with apparently > nothing to show for it. Fully agree. In most cases, using big desktop environment *A* prohibits using programs of big desktop environment *B* and vice versa. So if the OP wants to use Gnome in the first place, he can go with Evolution or Sylpheed or Claws (as they are Gtk applications). The same problem appears when you're not using a desktop environment at all (instead a powerful window manager "only") - but if you do, you traditionally will be very picky about the efficiency of the applications you use, so Bloatware doesn't have a chance. :-) I'm sure there are other GUI MUAs out there that are not so aggressive in inviting all their friends when starting up, keeping the system occupied for nothing. :-) > I switched to claws, which seems excellent. I've been a Sylpheed user for many years and just a bit disappointed by the fall of speed and accessibility with the switch from Gtk1 to Gtk2. I do NOT want to say that text mode MUAs can't be easy to use, versatile, powerful and _FAST_. In fact, pine was one of the first MUAs I've ever used, and there's nothing about "it's too complicated" or other stupid nonsense. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:43:01 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:07:12 +0200, Ross Cameron > wrote: > > Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would > > be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL. > > > > So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a > > GUI app for this. > > In this case, out of the commonly used programs one could > be chosen, e. g. Thunderbird. But also lightweighter > applications such as Sylpheed or even KMail (when you're > already intending to use KDE) or Evolution (Gnome's > equivalent, if I remember correctly) is an option. > > Using fetchmail to get the messages _independently_ from > any MUA gives you the chance to test various applications, > or even use them in parallel, employing one and the same > mail data. Using the system's mailer (e. g. via SMARTHOST) > makes you fully independent from the traditional POP/SMTP > accounts _in_ the MUA. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I agree about using Kmail with KDE; it is a well-designed mail program. However, using Kmail with Gnome was a horrible experience; it drags in and keeps starting up nepomuk and its friends, and chews up much of one's CPU capacity with apparently nothing to show for it. I switched to claws, which seems excellent. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:07:12 +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would > be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL. > > So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a > GUI app for this. In this case, out of the commonly used programs one could be chosen, e. g. Thunderbird. But also lightweighter applications such as Sylpheed or even KMail (when you're already intending to use KDE) or Evolution (Gnome's equivalent, if I remember correctly) is an option. Using fetchmail to get the messages _independently_ from any MUA gives you the chance to test various applications, or even use them in parallel, employing one and the same mail data. Using the system's mailer (e. g. via SMARTHOST) makes you fully independent from the traditional POP/SMTP accounts _in_ the MUA. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL. So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a GUI app for this. "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:04:58 +0200 > Ross Cameron wrote: > > > All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA) > > application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is > > HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the > > manual... > > You mean something like > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html ? :) > > -- > Bruce Cran > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On 01/18/2011 12:04 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, gs_stol...@juno.com > wrote: > >> I remember that there was a documentation project going on for >> FreeBSD and >> I'd like know its status and URL . Hopefully there is a good index (I >> consider this an >> essential tool in books). > > On the FRONT PAGE of the FreeBSD.org website there is a big ole button with > the word "Documentation" on it? > The link (for the truely lazy) is : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > >> Another section I would like to see is one about internet >> access and also the subsection about email . I want to be able to access >> my juno email >> account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender, >> the subject, >> and date & time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to >> read (and to >> delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion). There is also >> the flip side, >> the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send >> them. >> > All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA) > application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is > HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the manual... Even this is in the Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html > Install a few and decide for youreself what suits you best. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:04:58 +0200 Ross Cameron wrote: > All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA) > application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is > HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the > manual... You mean something like http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html ? :) -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: documentation OF FreeBSD
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, gs_stol...@juno.com wrote: > I remember that there was a documentation project going on for > FreeBSD and > I'd like know its status and URL . Hopefully there is a good index (I > consider this an > essential tool in books). On the FRONT PAGE of the FreeBSD.org website there is a big ole button with the word "Documentation" on it? The link (for the truely lazy) is : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > Another section I would like to see is one about internet > access and also the subsection about email . I want to be able to access > my juno email > account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender, > the subject, > and date & time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to > read (and to > delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion). There is also > the flip side, > the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send > them. > All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA) application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the manual... Install a few and decide for youreself what suits you best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
documentation OF FreeBSD
I remember that there was a documentation project going on for FreeBSD and I'd like know its status and URL . Hopefully there is a good index (I consider this an essential tool in books). Another section I would like to see is one about internet access and also the subsection about email . I want to be able to access my juno email account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender, the subject, and date & time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to read (and to delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion). There is also the flip side, the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send them. Moms Asked to Return to School Grant Funding May Be Available to Those That Qualify. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d35642919834bf38d6st02duc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
