Re: [gatortalk] My Thought
There was also the "4th and dumb" call in the 70's against uga. We were up either 28-7 or 28-14 at the half and lost 42-28. My wife and I went out and bought and drank a 5th of Southern Comfort during halftime to celebrate. I've never been able to stomach Southern Comfort since. Charlie On 9/26/2016 11:44 AM, John Vega wrote: > Well. Quite a game. > > I have seen a couple collapses like this; Miami in 2003 (I was at the game) > and 1994 at FSU. > > This was different. In 1994, we were the underdogs. To be frank, we had been > outplayed and were lucky to be ahead as we were. I always had the felling > that FSU would come back, and just hoped our lead was large enough. > > In 2003, we were evenly matched until our QB was knocked out of the game. In > comes true freshman Chris Leak. He played o.k., but it was clear that the > staff had to greatly limit the playbook due to his inexperience. Plus, our > coach was Ron Zook. Still, we would have won but for a dropped 2 point > conversion that was wide open (that would have allowed a FG at the end > instead of forcing us to go for the TD). > > Here, we had a good team, good coaches, the same QB all game and the teams > seemed evenly matched. I never felt that we were “lucky” to be up like we > were (unlike 1994). Our defense looked ferocious in the first half, and that > goal line stand was the stuff of legends. > > Then, what happened? I am still waiting an explanation that makes sense. > “Adjustments” my fanny. Either we had some crucial injuries, or some UT > assistant broke our signals. It sure looked like UT’s defense knew every play > in the second half before it happened. We must have had a tell. If not the > signals (those stupid signs), then our alignments telegraphed the plays. > > UT had all week to study our plays, and looked lost in the first half. In 15 > minutes of halftime, they somehow made adjustments that they couldn’t figure > out for entire week beforehand? That makes no sense. What does make sense is > a grad student upstairs mapping our alignments, signals, and figuring out the > plays. He tells the staff at the half, and we see a remarkable turnaround. > > -Zeb > -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [gatortalk] My Thought
We had a lot of trouble with crowd noise in the 1st half and had to burn timeouts plus we may have been called for delay. Perhaps the snap count thing was simplified at halftime to the point that Tennessee figured it out. Charlie On 9/26/2016 12:02 PM, Mike McCrary wrote: > I agree with the adjustment. l think that we had a tell on the snap count. > lf you watch, the UT D moved exactly at the snap of the ball sometimes even > quicker then our line. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, John Vega wrote: >> >> Well. Quite a game. >> >> I have seen a couple collapses like this; Miami in 2003 (I was at the game) >> and 1994 at FSU. >> >> This was different. In 1994, we were the underdogs. To be frank, we had been >> outplayed and were lucky to be ahead as we were. I always had the felling >> that FSU would come back, and just hoped our lead was large enough. >> >> In 2003, we were evenly matched until our QB was knocked out of the game. In >> comes true freshman Chris Leak. He played o.k., but it was clear that the >> staff had to greatly limit the playbook due to his inexperience. Plus, our >> coach was Ron Zook. Still, we would have won but for a dropped 2 point >> conversion that was wide open (that would have allowed a FG at the end >> instead of forcing us to go for the TD). >> >> Here, we had a good team, good coaches, the same QB all game and the teams >> seemed evenly matched. I never felt that we were “lucky” to be up like we >> were (unlike 1994). Our defense looked ferocious in the first half, and that >> goal line stand was the stuff of legends. >> >> Then, what happened? I am still waiting an explanation that makes sense. >> “Adjustments” my fanny. Either we had some crucial injuries, or some UT >> assistant broke our signals. It sure looked like UT’s defense knew every >> play in the second half before it happened. We must have had a tell. If not >> the signals (those stupid signs), then our alignments telegraphed the plays. >> >> UT had all week to study our plays, and looked lost in the first half. In 15 >> minutes of halftime, they somehow made adjustments that they couldn’t figure >> out for entire week beforehand? That makes no sense. What does make sense is >> a grad student upstairs mapping our alignments, signals, and figuring out >> the plays. He tells the staff at the half, and we see a remarkable >> turnaround. >> >> -Zeb >> >> -- >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "GatorTalk" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [gatortalk] My Thought
It reminded me of that game where Alex Brown figured out UT’s snap count, and had a monster game. There was that, plus there were a couple screens where at least two defenders were on the receiver before the ball even got there. Just strange. -Zeb > On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Mike McCrary wrote: > > I agree with the adjustment. l think that we had a tell on the snap count. > lf you watch, the UT D moved exactly at the snap of the ball sometimes even > quicker then our line. -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [gatortalk] My Thought
I agree with the adjustment. l think that we had a tell on the snap count. lf you watch, the UT D moved exactly at the snap of the ball sometimes even quicker then our line. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, John Vega wrote: > > Well. Quite a game. > > I have seen a couple collapses like this; Miami in 2003 (I was at the game) > and 1994 at FSU. > > This was different. In 1994, we were the underdogs. To be frank, we had been > outplayed and were lucky to be ahead as we were. I always had the felling > that FSU would come back, and just hoped our lead was large enough. > > In 2003, we were evenly matched until our QB was knocked out of the game. In > comes true freshman Chris Leak. He played o.k., but it was clear that the > staff had to greatly limit the playbook due to his inexperience. Plus, our > coach was Ron Zook. Still, we would have won but for a dropped 2 point > conversion that was wide open (that would have allowed a FG at the end > instead of forcing us to go for the TD). > > Here, we had a good team, good coaches, the same QB all game and the teams > seemed evenly matched. I never felt that we were “lucky” to be up like we > were (unlike 1994). Our defense looked ferocious in the first half, and that > goal line stand was the stuff of legends. > > Then, what happened? I am still waiting an explanation that makes sense. > “Adjustments” my fanny. Either we had some crucial injuries, or some UT > assistant broke our signals. It sure looked like UT’s defense knew every play > in the second half before it happened. We must have had a tell. If not the > signals (those stupid signs), then our alignments telegraphed the plays. > > UT had all week to study our plays, and looked lost in the first half. In 15 > minutes of halftime, they somehow made adjustments that they couldn’t figure > out for entire week beforehand? That makes no sense. What does make sense is > a grad student upstairs mapping our alignments, signals, and figuring out the > plays. He tells the staff at the half, and we see a remarkable turnaround. > > -Zeb > > -- > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 > National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 > National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve > Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "GatorTalk" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [gatortalk] My Thought
I will point out one thing about the "ferocious" UF defense in the first half - the plays were there many times for UT. They were playing tight and their WRs had the dropsies. There was at least one TD passed drop and several big gains negated by an attack of hands like feet. The pass plays were there; UT executed those in the 2nd half. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:44 AM, John Vega wrote: > Well. Quite a game. > > I have seen a couple collapses like this; Miami in 2003 (I was at the > game) and 1994 at FSU. > > This was different. In 1994, we were the underdogs. To be frank, we had > been outplayed and were lucky to be ahead as we were. I always had the > felling that FSU would come back, and just hoped our lead was large enough. > > In 2003, we were evenly matched until our QB was knocked out of the game. > In comes true freshman Chris Leak. He played o.k., but it was clear that > the staff had to greatly limit the playbook due to his inexperience. Plus, > our coach was Ron Zook. Still, we would have won but for a dropped 2 point > conversion that was wide open (that would have allowed a FG at the end > instead of forcing us to go for the TD). > > Here, we had a good team, good coaches, the same QB all game and the teams > seemed evenly matched. I never felt that we were “lucky” to be up like we > were (unlike 1994). Our defense looked ferocious in the first half, and > that goal line stand was the stuff of legends. > > Then, what happened? I am still waiting an explanation that makes sense. > “Adjustments” my fanny. Either we had some crucial injuries, or some UT > assistant broke our signals. It sure looked like UT’s defense knew every > play in the second half before it happened. We must have had a tell. If not > the signals (those stupid signs), then our alignments telegraphed the plays. > > UT had all week to study our plays, and looked lost in the first half. In > 15 minutes of halftime, they somehow made adjustments that they couldn’t > figure out for entire week beforehand? That makes no sense. What does make > sense is a grad student upstairs mapping our alignments, signals, and > figuring out the plays. He tells the staff at the half, and we see a > remarkable turnaround. > > -Zeb > > -- > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve > Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "GatorTalk" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[gatortalk] My Thought
Well. Quite a game. I have seen a couple collapses like this; Miami in 2003 (I was at the game) and 1994 at FSU. This was different. In 1994, we were the underdogs. To be frank, we had been outplayed and were lucky to be ahead as we were. I always had the felling that FSU would come back, and just hoped our lead was large enough. In 2003, we were evenly matched until our QB was knocked out of the game. In comes true freshman Chris Leak. He played o.k., but it was clear that the staff had to greatly limit the playbook due to his inexperience. Plus, our coach was Ron Zook. Still, we would have won but for a dropped 2 point conversion that was wide open (that would have allowed a FG at the end instead of forcing us to go for the TD). Here, we had a good team, good coaches, the same QB all game and the teams seemed evenly matched. I never felt that we were “lucky” to be up like we were (unlike 1994). Our defense looked ferocious in the first half, and that goal line stand was the stuff of legends. Then, what happened? I am still waiting an explanation that makes sense. “Adjustments” my fanny. Either we had some crucial injuries, or some UT assistant broke our signals. It sure looked like UT’s defense knew every play in the second half before it happened. We must have had a tell. If not the signals (those stupid signs), then our alignments telegraphed the plays. UT had all week to study our plays, and looked lost in the first half. In 15 minutes of halftime, they somehow made adjustments that they couldn’t figure out for entire week beforehand? That makes no sense. What does make sense is a grad student upstairs mapping our alignments, signals, and figuring out the plays. He tells the staff at the half, and we see a remarkable turnaround. -Zeb -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
