I can't vote, but I think we need to soften the policy.
2012/12/26 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org
25.12.2012 18:30, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org wrote:
Let's discuss the specific guideline for Perl modules. It's as
follows:
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http://devrel.gentoo.org/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap2_sect2
| Perl
|
| New Perl modules are to be added to portage only when one of the
following
| conditions is met:
|
| a) The module(s) fulfill a dependency
| b) The module(s) cannot be handled by g-cpan
| c) The module(s) add functionality to existing ebuilds
| d) The module(s) provide tools, applications or other features (i.e.
more
|than what their .PM offers)
|
| Please make sure that at least one member of the perl herders approves
| your addition.
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Recently the proxy-maintainer project is repeatedly adding packages
which aren't following these guideline AFAIK. So maybe we should change
it.
444974 a) dev-perl/Text-Format - Various subroutines to format text
2012-12-07
444976 a) dev-perl/Roman - Perl module for conversion between Roman and
Arabic numerals.2012-12-03
446710 ?) dev-perl/FLV-AudioExtractor - Extract audio from Flash Videos
2012-12-12
447724 ?) dev-perl/Email-Send-Gmail - Send Messages using Gmail Mon
10:12
Ad a): This requirement is a little problematic:
Sometimes perl modules are needed for maintainer-wanted packages.
Sometimes the perl modules are added to the tree while the
maintainer-wanted package never are or will be. Sometimes the maintainer
are waiting for the perl team to do their work.
Ad b): (Judging from bugreports) g-cpan doesn't seem to be really
reliable these days. I always wanted to test/verify it. But ... (random
excuse: time, motivation,...)
I guess I don't have no problem with modifying or dropping the
requirements. The perl overlay contains hundreds of packages which
should be added to the main tree.
The dev-perl category currently already contains the most packages
(1140 per packages.g.o).
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Best regards
Torsten
I'm sure I skimmed that section of the handbook at some point for the
quizzes, but I don't remember it. I think it is possible that the
proxy commiter (pinkbyte) forgot about it too.
No, i do not, i have read this guideline, and yes - it is not mentioned
directly in Handbook or Devmanual.
Some of these modules was added cause they are dependencies for other
packages(which are still waiting for adding in tree, cause they have no
maintainer yet), others - cause g-cpan generate very ugly ebuilds for them.
I think that all of those requirements make sense. We might want to
formalize a similar guideline for the python herd.
Perhaps the requirements list could be copied somewhere more visible?
The perl project page might get more traffic for people looking to
write perl ebuilds.
Truly, i do not really understand such hard policy for NOT including
perl modules in tree. I know that perl herd is understaffed, but i do
not think that this is generally a problem, cause they do not maintain
recently added packages, but proxy maintainers do.
So, basically, yes, i vote for easing policy a bit.
P.S. CCing maintainer of modules, that i have commited as a proxy, maybe
he also wants to say something regarding this.
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Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo Linux Developer
Desktop-effects project lead
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