Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-28 Thread Michael Cummings
Have to pipe up on this as I get at least a half dozen bugs a week...

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
 On a note, similar to the one about /usr/X11R6, I'd like to ask about
 collision-protect.

 - How well is it expected to work?

Oh, it works, believe me, it works

 - Do you guys expect bug reports about packages with conflicting
   targets, with possible patches, etc?

Expect is a big word. Let's just say I'm a bad dev and don't follow the list 
of new features in every release of portage (portage folks: i love ya, you 
know that, doesn't mean I follow all the new feature flags and all), so my 
introduction to collision-protect was when a half dozen bugs were filed one 
rainy morning. Perl is in a collidable situation because we offer ebuilds 
that supercede the modules that were installed with your version of perl (on 
account of packages needing newer modules but not newer perl's) - we get hit 
when the man pages go to merge. I'm hoping to alleviate (NOTE: not resolve) 
some of this when we can do versioned virtuals, but until then I sympathize 
with the bug posters and kindly ask them to disable collision protect until 
the module is installed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-28 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 28/04/2005-08:10:49(-0400): Michael Cummings types
 Have to pipe up on this as I get at least a half dozen bugs a week...
 
 On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
  On a note, similar to the one about /usr/X11R6, I'd like to ask about
  collision-protect.
 
  - How well is it expected to work?
 
 Oh, it works, believe me, it works
 
  - Do you guys expect bug reports about packages with conflicting
targets, with possible patches, etc?
 
 Expect is a big word. Let's just say I'm a bad dev and don't follow the list 
 of new features in every release of portage (portage folks: i love ya, you 
 know that, doesn't mean I follow all the new feature flags and all), so my 
 introduction to collision-protect was when a half dozen bugs were filed one 
 rainy morning. Perl is in a collidable situation because we offer ebuilds 
 that supercede the modules that were installed with your version of perl (on 
 account of packages needing newer modules but not newer perl's) - we get hit 
 when the man pages go to merge. I'm hoping to alleviate (NOTE: not resolve) 
 some of this when we can do versioned virtuals, but until then I sympathize 
 with the bug posters and kindly ask them to disable collision protect until 
 the module is installed.

Isn't there a way to avoid installing the modules with perl and PDEPEND
on them instead?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
 - How well is it expected to work?

it's expected to work just fine

 - Do you guys expect bug reports about packages with conflicting
   targets, with possible patches, etc?

yes
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Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-27 Thread Hasan Khalil
On Apr 27, 2005, at 20:29, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
- How well is it expected to work?
We on Mac OS X use it (on our default profiles) to avoid overwriting  
Apple-provided files and, so far, it's worked great.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 09:14 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
 Uh, I did not expect such a response. I personally have a whole bunch of
 collisions on my system, most of which man pages.

 http://gg3.net/~chutz/gentoo/collisions

 I'll see to report them.

make sure they arent already fixed ... just glancing at the top list, a bunch 
are either already in bugzilla or resolved

also, there's the issue of SLOT based packages ... dont report those just 
yet ...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-27 Thread Alec Warner
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Marius Mauch wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:37:10 -0400
 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote:

- How well is it expected to work?

it's expected to work just fine
 
 
 Most of the time. However, sometimes there are some issues (the xorg
 move, perl modules manpages or portage compilation objects to name a
 few) that can't be fixed really. That's why I don't think it will ever
 be a default setting.
 
 Marius
 
Perhaps there needs to be a ebuild setting for
RESTRICT=no-collision-protect? :)
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