Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any other large corps run it that we know of? I googled a bit but couldn't find anything. Maybe my search terms wasn't good enough. Links would be nice. Dale -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! While I'll start by backing up everything said by others regarding the differences being nearly negligible in a truly equal test, same feature set from source vs the feature set provided by a binary distro, and even a loss in terms of total time when you include the compile times involved, I do have a bit of anecdotal evidence in Gentoo's favor. On the majority of x86 or x86_64 hardware there's very little room for across the board gains in performance over otherwise standard cflags. On slightly less 'normal' hardware, like, say, an Atom N270 based netbook with 1GB of ram, however, a few cflags go a *long* way towards having a usable system. My Mini9 shipped with a variant of Ubuntu that's actually built with general optimizations to make it usable on that hardware, and having run the same version of Ubuntu without those optimizations for a day or two on it, the amount of stutter and stalling was almost unbearable. Then, with the help of a desktop (or three) to handle the bulk of the compilation, I moved to Gentoo on it. I hadn't sorted out what cflags would be best, and simply built what I needed to get back to work on it with fairly minimal use flags, and I was rather frustrated to find that it still ran worse than the factory install, once programs had started (though that process was noticeably faster, as it generally is with so much less running in the background). Once I adjusted to the appropriate cflags, the stutter cleared up, things didn't stall frequently, and the system was simply more responsive. I could even watch flash videos full screen without it stuttering, which I'd given up on as a possibility on the system. A vast majority of the gains I saw were simply from clearing away the 80% of Ubuntu's features I have no use for, but when you have a processor that approaches things just a little differently, like an Atom, you really can gain a bit from letting the compiler put things in an order the processor will agree with better. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
[gentoo-user] udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces
Hello, Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long time). Even if I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion how to keep my old names and order? Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***80-net-
[gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?
Hi, I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes howto install the java plugin for the current fireox. Where can I find one? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?
On Saturday 16 March 2013 14:15:50 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes howto install the java plugin for the current fireox. Where can I find one? Best regards, mcc What about this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml I think simply enable the `nsplugin' USE flag and install orcale-jre-bin is enough. -- Regards, Wang Jiajun
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes howto install the java plugin for the current fireox. Where can I find one? Best regards, mcc I use icedtea; amd64testbox ~ # emerge -pv icedtea These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ~] dev-java/icedtea-7.2.3.8:7 USE=X alsa cups jbootstrap nsplugin nss pulseaudio source webstart -cjk -debug -doc -examples -javascript -pax_kernel -systemtap {-test} 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB amd64testbox ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list Available 32-bit Java browser plugins Available 64-bit Java browser plugins [1] icedtea-7 current
[gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/16/2013 09:14 AM, Dan Johansson wrote: Hello, Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long time). Even if I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion how to keep my old names and order? Regards, Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next enumerated device. The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the kernel would *not* automatically assign. Unfortunately, that means that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can believe). - -- Jonathan Callen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRRHYFAAoJELHSF2kinlg4d0MQAJhJs73Nlja+TGoq77TaYMOz vrJmZmPDewp+1imFjfnddhC6c5ePn5+XCQ7vWmcB3LVVh8JAOqRq1pEV/u4F3HYO 8VE5VI/s0K2MO/+8aLOOSnB91tmEmZ9ziKnIjvZPKqDKH5JB2iCShnvvgfdWIlQB HwaZknzlvl1bNCBmDfaXFoGzPmEIiyIysuzI9xFxv1/m+VOMeDkN5a7qJmC7mXld gu9Shx15Y2LBJZvQaUH8aM6Qv4BsMc9IJ0XWp/aHpbefMuj+Vb5038caRRfHqyUN aNmYmiEvvkb2IqrMSJ8x4faC3iVj/YimovEQhiDZmwaHcl2IqmlngJ1qAPk30/Lh fwUVDCTwtJ/zoOoTxGpd4zZ/wUVVPaupsOc2D7ZMXlw2o5RzsuSwRE5FrHv/0MXO Ne3I3QVHvPJvYfwi0AyOv5wHEKkCdF9MjgWqCErjEPaFUrrPuiWp4ESQp/HE5rVQ YG77ZSugSnFddZgwYenlSgDhHkkMaHV8zeNautVOPRMsvqbKbnVjEtT7YXHJBN0B OnnCQhZR7lBKCkxc5Xq/TWXe9imT/1Of8tLn80SuICthUGLgFg1tlv0AIjKmWU9q FIoQ+xD6rTav2zdPkTF86HsODqwe38br64NLPhUSfd+s7e5iiqh++XTtwTnXSKXW QbQb+npPnCZ0DgqW9aCM =/24C -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros
On 15 March 2013, at 17:32, Kevin Chadwick wrote: If you use the Gentoo hardened Tinfoil Linux you will need lots of ram and wait ages to boot but firefox will just pop up. I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement. Could you possibly explain, please? Stroller.
Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )
On 15 March 2013, at 17:36, Kevin Chadwick wrote: ... ROFL. It's called me wrestling with thunderbird to try to remove html formatting but failing. Compulsory html annoys me on Android (If only you could have proper programs like Nokias N9 had claws) Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option? Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 might enforce top-posting on replies. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?
Wang Jiajun amesi...@gmail.com [13-03-16 14:32]: On Saturday 16 March 2013 14:15:50 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes howto install the java plugin for the current fireox. Where can I find one? Best regards, mcc What about this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml I think simply enable the `nsplugin' USE flag and install orcale-jre-bin is enough. -- Regards, Wang Jiajun Hi, thanks a lot for your help! Works like a charm! Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Squid 3.2 dying with glibc-errors?
Hi, I am running squid on amd64. I tried 3.2.6 and 3.2.9 both repeatedly die with glibc-errors in cache.log. Anybody else experiencing something similar? Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces
On Saturday 16 March 2013 09.39:17 Jonathan Callen wrote: Hello, Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long time). Even if I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion how to keep my old names and order? Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next enumerated device. The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the kernel would *not* automatically assign. Unfortunately, that means that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can believe). This is great... (I hope you can hear the irony) OK, so I removed the two udev rules (70-persistent-net and 80-net-name-slot) files, thinking if this is the way the upstream devs are going then I have to check it out. After removing the udev-rules and rebooting I got my two new network interfaces called enp0s4 and enp0s5 (no idea what that is supposed to mean). My next step was to replace eth0 with enp0s5 and eth1 with enp0s4 in /etc/conf.d(net and create two new links (net.lo - net.enp0s[45]) in /etc/init.d Now I could start the two network interfaces (/etc/init.d/net.enp0s[45] start). BUT, as soon as I try to start some service (sshd, ntpd, ...) that is using the network I get a lot of complains that eth0 and eth1 is not started (and can not be started) and the service wont start. What have I missed??? Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:52:41 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't miss anything. I get what some are saying. The reason for my question is this. Gentoo allows a person to customize the OS to the specific hardware it is being run on. Redhat and other binary distros don't allow this, unless you compile your own packages which is no longer really a binary install. So, if I install Redhat on my machine, would it be less efficient than my Gentoo install which is customized for my hardware? Has someone else tested this and made it public? If people can't get this, never mind. Dale I have not really searched for such benchmarks for a while. I would take any such things with a grain of salt, if I did. Unless I want to devote the time to set up a series of application specific tests, and test them on multiple platforms on MY hardware, such results would be almost useless to me. I am sure that there are such tests out there - Computer Science and Engineering departments at Universities have certainly run such tests - whether they are public or not, is another story. Also, if you could specifically define efficient, it would be helpful, at least to narrow down what you're looking for. If you mean, accomplishing the same task with the fewest instructions, that is difficult to test, and very dependent on Kernel, library and compiler versions. If you mean faster, that is more hardware dependent, unless you're dealing with some very poorly written code. Efficient does not always mean faster - as others have pointed out, binary distos are faster to install than source based distros. FreeBSD is faster than GNU/Linux on some tasks, and overall is more UNIX-like, since it was a Berkeley developed version of UNIX. This has been tested on other people's hardware. Would that necessarily compare to mine or yours? We don't know that, since we have NOT tested them on each of our sets of hardware. E.g. FreeBSD uses an older version of just about everything, so I cannot optimize the compiler for my Core-i7-avx processor. I can do this with Gentoo (or any other GNU/Linux distro that I choose to 'optimize' by compiling from source). Just my $0.02, Chris
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: On Saturday 16 March 2013 09.39:17 Jonathan Callen wrote: Hello, Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long time). Even if I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion how to keep my old names and order? Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next enumerated device. The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the kernel would *not* automatically assign. Unfortunately, that means that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can believe). This is great... (I hope you can hear the irony) OK, so I removed the two udev rules (70-persistent-net and 80-net-name-slot) files, thinking if this is the way the upstream devs are going then I have to check it out. That's the smart thing to do. After removing the udev-rules and rebooting I got my two new network interfaces called enp0s4 and enp0s5 (no idea what that is supposed to mean). http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c Basically, en is for ethernet, p is for PCI bus, and 0s4 and 0s5 is for the topology of the cards in your machine: the cards are in the PCI bus number 0, slot number 4 and 5. In other words, if you do find /sys -name enp0s4, I'm betting you will get something like: /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:00:004.0/net/enp0s4 The :00:004.0 is the part that determines the naming of yout device. This naming is deterministic: as long as you don't move the cards from PCI slot, they will be named like that always. My next step was to replace eth0 with enp0s5 and eth1 with enp0s4 in /etc/conf.d(net and create two new links (net.lo - net.enp0s[45]) in /etc/init.d Now I could start the two network interfaces (/etc/init.d/net.enp0s[45] start). BUT, as soon as I try to start some service (sshd, ntpd, ...) that is using the network I get a lot of complains that eth0 and eth1 is not started (and can not be started) and the service wont start. What have I missed??? Do you have net.eth0 or net.eth1 in /etc/rc.conf? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] using vixie-cron and anacron together
I have used vixie-cron and anacron together for years. I put the scripts for anacron in /etc/anacron.{daily, weekly, monthly} so they were separate from the cron scripts in /etc/cron.{daily, weekly, monthly} (hourly irrelevant for this) [[ actually I was even more nonstandard and put them in /local/etc/anacron-{...} but that is another story ]] I want to be more standard with a new installation so I am following the anacron documentation and putting the anacron scripts in /etc/cron.{daily, weekly, monthly}. I am then supposed to comment [these] jobs out of their crontab files Am I correct that I comment out cron.daily by commenting out the line 9 3 * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily from /etc/crontab. I think this has to work but the code in /usr/sbin/run-crons is a little tricky and I want to be sure. thanks, allan
Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )
Stroller wrote: Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option? Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 might enforce top-posting on replies. K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account settings/Sending mail.
[gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile
Howdy, bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue? x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o build/src/mgui/win_utils.o -c -Wall -W -Wno-reorder -march=native -O2 -pipe -ansi -march=native -O2 -pipe -DBOOST_SP_USE_QUICK_ALLOCATOR -DBOOST_SYSTEM_NO_DEPRECATED -DNDEBUG -DEXT_BOOST -Ibuild/src -Isrc -Ilibs/boost-logging -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml++-2.6 -I/usr/lib64/libxml++-2.6/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/giomm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/giomm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/lib64/pangomm-1.4/include -I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/cairomm-1.0/include -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/freetype2 src/mgui/win_utils.cpp x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o build/src/mgui/author/burn.o -c -Wall -W -Wno-reorder -march=native -O2 -pipe -ansi -march=native -O2 -pipe -DBOOST_SP_USE_QUICK_ALLOCATOR -DBOOST_SYSTEM_NO_DEPRECATED -DNDEBUG -DEXT_BOOST -Ibuild/src -Isrc -Ilibs/boost-logging -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml++-2.6 -I/usr/lib64/libxml++-2.6/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/giomm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/giomm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/lib64/pangomm-1.4/include -I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/cairomm-1.0/include -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/freetype2 src/mgui/author/burn.cpp src/mgui/ffviewer.cpp:41:58: fatal error: libavformat/url.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. scons: *** [build/src/mgui/ffviewer.o] Error 1 src/mgui/execution.cpp: In destructor ‘ExecOutput::~ExecOutput()’: src/mgui/execution.cpp:143:13: warning: unused variable ‘fd’ [-Wunused-variable] src/mgui/execution.cpp: At global scope: src/mgui/execution.cpp:116:13: warning: ‘bool IsFDOpen(int)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function] scons: building terminated because of errors. * escons: WARNING: escons failed. * ERROR: media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1 failed (compile phase): * Please add /var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1/config.opts when filing bugs reports! * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_compile * environment, line 2597: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * nonfatal escons || die Please add ${S}/config.opts when filing bugs reports! * * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info '=media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1'`, * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv '=media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1'`. * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/temp/environment'. * Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1' * S: '/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1' * * The following package has failed to build or install: Just checking if it is just me or what. Nothing on the forums either, that I could find anyway. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile
On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote: Howdy, bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852 Search-fu on the futz Dale? search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote: Howdy, bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852 Search-fu on the futz Dale? search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit :-) Google search, forum search, didn't even think about bgo. hangs head in shame Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile
Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote: Howdy, bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852 Search-fu on the futz Dale? search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit :-) Google search, forum search, didn't even think about bgo. hangs head in shame Thanks. Dale :-) :-) Patch seems to be worse than the original problem. Here is my fix: emerge -Ca bombono-dvd Now I don't have to mess with it. Maybe one day it will be fixed in the tree as it should be anyway and I can install it again. Oh well. Thanks tho. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
[gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage. Not user friendly either. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote: On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage. Not user friendly either. Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS. Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're trying to do? How large a project is this? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote: On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage. Not user friendly either. Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS. Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're trying to do? How large a project is this? I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG I don't have time to play with those tags. I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload. I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG
On 03/16/13 22:07, Joseph wrote: On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote: On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage. Not user friendly either. Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS. Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're trying to do? How large a project is this? I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG I don't have time to play with those tags. I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload. I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/ There is an application called kompozer but not in portage. -- Joseph
[gentoo-user] Emerge problems
Hi, while updateing this morning I got this ouput: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] app-text/texlive-core-2012-r1 USE=X tk -cjk -doc -source -xetex [ebuild N ] dev-tex/luatex-0.70.1-r1 USE=-doc 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20130224 [20121202] USE=development 6,030 kB [ebuild U ~] sys-fs/ecryptfs-utils-103 [101] USE=gtk pam -doc -gpg -openssl -pkcs11 -python -suid -tpm 610 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl-20130224 [20121202] USE=development 637 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20130224 [20121202] USE=alsa development 6,903 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20130224 [20121202] USE=development 10,173 kB [ebuild U ]app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20130224 [20121202] USE=development opengl 2,415 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20130224 [20121202-r1] USE=development 61,283 kB [ebuild UD ] app-text/poppler-0.20.5:0/0 [0.22.2:0/35] USE=cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-process/procps-3.3.4 USE=ncurses nls%* unicode -static-libs 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-db-20130224 [20121202] USE=development 1,395 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20130224 [20121202] USE=development 40,865 kB Total: 12 packages (9 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 130,308 kB WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: app-text/poppler:0 (app-text/poppler-0.22.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with app-text/poppler-0.22[xpdf-headers(+)] required by (dev-tex/luatex-0.70.1-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) After doing an eix app-text/poppler I got his: [I] app-text/poppler Available versions: (0) 0.20.5^t (0/35) (~)0.22.2^t {{cairo cjk curl cxx debug doc +introspection (+)jpeg jpeg2k +lcms png qt4 tiff +utils}} Installed versions: 0.22.2(0/35)^t(05:14:11 03/17/13)(cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc) Homepage:http://poppler.freedesktop.org/ Description: PDF rendering library based on the xpdf-3.0 code base and there is no xpdf-headers USE flag. XPdf was removed at all if my brain serves me right... ;) So no chance to resolve the conflict? How can I prevent this problem? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc