Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
On Monday 12 September 2005 06:43 pm, Covington, Chris wrote: > > Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because > > the > > > OS is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy > > or > > > CD and (even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble > > remembering > > > certian things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of > > those > > > things. > > Well it's just as hard to remember that the MBR is on the floppy or the > cdrom as it is on the SCSI disk. > > If it's about remembering which SCSI disk, just run a cron job or init > script which installs the Grub MBR in all of your SCSI disks so you > won't have to worry about remembering. Thats an idea, although it isn't that hard remembering the mbr is on a floppy if there is one in teh machine, I don't think any of my other machines have a floppy in them ever, let alone at boot time... Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
> Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because the > OS is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy or > CD and (even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble remembering > certian things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of those > things. Well it's just as hard to remember that the MBR is on the floppy or the cdrom as it is on the SCSI disk. If it's about remembering which SCSI disk, just run a cron job or init script which installs the Grub MBR in all of your SCSI disks so you won't have to worry about remembering. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
On Monday 12 September 2005 03:34 pm, Covington, Chris wrote: > > Guess I could, just wanted to keep the SCSI's clean for data only... > > The MBR doesn't use any space, and it won't alter your partitions in > anyway. So to me it seems like the best route. > Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because the OS is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy or CD and (even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble remembering certian things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of those things. Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
> Any particular reason that no one thought to answer the question > at hand? lol. Because it's a bad idea.. I wouldn't want to receive the call when the now required floppy or CD fails and the server is unable to boot after an unexpected power outage or reboot, when a simple MBR can be loaded on one of the existing disks in the server instead. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
How do I build a floppy to just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? Any particular reason that no one thought to answer the question at hand? lol. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Bootable_Floppy_with_GRUB http://www.bootdisk.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
> Guess I could, just wanted to keep the SCSI's clean for data only... The MBR doesn't use any space, and it won't alter your partitions in anyway. So to me it seems like the best route. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
On Monday 12 September 2005 03:12 pm, Covington, Chris wrote: > >I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a > >file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold > > > >the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after > >installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh > >3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I > >assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to > >just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? > > > >Does this make any sense to anyone? > > Why don't you install the MBR on one of the SCSI disks and keep the O/S > & boot partition on the IDE drive? Guess I could, just wanted to keep the SCSI's clean for data only... What I would like is to be able to move teh MBR to a floppy? or CD?? Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
>I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a >file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold >the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after >installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh >3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I >assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to >just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? > >Does this make any sense to anyone? Why don't you install the MBR on one of the SCSI disks and keep the O/S & boot partition on the IDE drive? --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
There should be But the firmware boot disks don't upgrade it... I'll have to look further. The curent BIOS on teh machine is E39 dated 2000. That would be the original I think. Mike On Saturday 10 September 2005 02:46 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: > Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > >I got the smartStart, but it won't let me set up for IDE boot. When I try > > to set-up the BIOS it will let me change most settings but says this > > system does not support IDE HD. Hence I was think ing I would boot on a > > floppy and have it find the kernel and set them machine up to use the HD. > > It finds the HD during boot up but can't boot from it... > > > >Mike > > > >On Friday 09 September 2005 04:19 pm, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > >>Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the "Comaq SmartStart" CDs > >>for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also > >>contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to > >>set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the > >>way which you want to. > >>Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there. > >> > >>Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > >>>I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a > >>>file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold > >>>the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after > >>>installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh > >>>3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I > >>>assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to > >>>just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? > >>> > >>>Does this make any sense to anyone? > >>> > >>>Mike > > Have you looked to see if there is a bios/system upgrade available? We > use a Proliant 3000 as the main document/application server at work and > had to upgrade the bios/system in order to use ide. Been working great > since. > > -- > Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) > Westbank, B. C -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
Michael W. Holdeman wrote: >I got the smartStart, but it won't let me set up for IDE boot. When I try to >set-up the BIOS it will let me change most settings but says this system does >not support IDE HD. Hence I was think ing I would boot on a floppy and have >it find the kernel and set them machine up to use the HD. It finds the HD >during boot up but can't boot from it... > >Mike > >On Friday 09 September 2005 04:19 pm, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > > >>Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the "Comaq SmartStart" CDs >>for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also >>contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to >>set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the >>way which you want to. >>Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there. >> >>Michael W. Holdeman wrote: >> >> >>>I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a >>>file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold >>>the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after >>>installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh >>>3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I >>>assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to >>>just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? >>> >>>Does this make any sense to anyone? >>> >>>Mike >>> >>> > > > Have you looked to see if there is a bios/system upgrade available? We use a Proliant 3000 as the main document/application server at work and had to upgrade the bios/system in order to use ide. Been working great since. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
I got the smartStart, but it won't let me set up for IDE boot. When I try to set-up the BIOS it will let me change most settings but says this system does not support IDE HD. Hence I was think ing I would boot on a floppy and have it find the kernel and set them machine up to use the HD. It finds the HD during boot up but can't boot from it... Mike On Friday 09 September 2005 04:19 pm, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the "Comaq SmartStart" CDs > for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also > contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to > set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the > way which you want to. > Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there. > > Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > >I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a > > file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold > > the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after > > installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh > > 3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I > > assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to > > just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? > > > >Does this make any sense to anyone? > > > >Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000
Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the "Comaq SmartStart" CDs for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the way which you want to. Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there. Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh 3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os? Does this make any sense to anyone? Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
