Re: GHC include files

2000-03-02 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty

Sven Panne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,

> It seems that the choice of the installation path depends more on
> religious thoughts than technical necessities. The only thing I was
> trying to say is that Joe User rarely needs 5 different versions of
> GHC at the same time, so I prefer paths without version numbers for
> my RPMs. Of course it makes sense for advanced GHC hackers to have
> different versions lying around, but those people normally build GHC
> from source anyway. And with the configure stuff relocating GHC is a
> piece of cake, e.g. with
> 
>./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/ghc
> 
> binaries go into /usr/bin, the whole rest into /usr/lib/ghc. So what's
> the problem?  :-)

Easy - I don't want to build an rpm which doesn't contain a
version number in the path (for public use) only to compile
ghc once more for myself with a version number in the path.
So, better have everybody have the version number and share
the binaries :-)

Manuel




Re: GHC include files

2000-03-02 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty

George Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,

> "Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" wrote:
> > 
> > Malcolm Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
> > 
> > > Can I propose a change to the -i / -I flags?  Currently, the -idir (or
> > > -Idir) options add a directory to the search path for imports.  This
> > > directory is either relative to the current dir, or absolute.  My
> > > suggestion is that it could also be used for "relative to a standard
> > > installation directory".  For instance, -Idata/edison would look first
> > > in ./data/edison if it exists, then in $prefix/data/edison, where
> > > $prefix has the value /usr/local/lib/ghc, or whatever.
> I don't think this scheme would solve my problem at all.  As has been pointed
> out before, I can already get the GHC include files appended by calling "ghc"
> and not "gcc".  It's a good suggestion and one I shall probably follow.  BUT
> it is not ideal because (a) ghc seems to munge up its arguments rather a lot -
> for example, it rearranges libraries which is a problem for Solaris when you
> are using the system linker; (b) if you had a huge C program to which you
> wanted to link a little Haskell, it would be silly to compile all the code
> in the C program with ghc, and it would also be silly to compile some C code
> with gcc and some with gcc.  I'm not sure what would be best; perhaps
> what I want is ghc options which won't do any compiling, but just tell me
> where the include files and libraries are.   So then I can type
> GHC_INCLUDES = `$(GHC) -display-includes`
> or something like that . . .

This is exactly what the `...-config' script that I was
talking about is supposed to do.  Now we can argue whether
that should be part of `ghc' proper or an extra script.  An
extra script at least has the advantage that it is easier to 
maintain manual in case somebody moves a tree or so.

Manuel



Re: GHC include files

2000-03-02 Thread George Russell

Sven Panne wrote:
> binaries go into /usr/bin, the whole rest into /usr/lib/ghc. So what's
> the problem?  :-)
None.  But can I suggest that if it's completely trivial we have
   ghc -display-include-path
and
   ghc -display-libraries
if that's easy to do?  EG on this system
   ghc -display-libraries -syslib lang
might output
   -L/usr/local/pub-bkb/ghc/ghc-binary/lib -lHSrts -lHS -lHS_cbits -lHSlang 
-lHSlang_cbits
(Or something similar to be fed to ld.)  This would (a) solve my currently
problem (which is admittedly rather trivial); (b) not force me to go through
ghc when linking Glasgow Haskell to something else.



Re: GHC include files

2000-03-02 Thread Sven Panne

It seems that the choice of the installation path depends more on
religious thoughts than technical necessities. The only thing I was
trying to say is that Joe User rarely needs 5 different versions of
GHC at the same time, so I prefer paths without version numbers for
my RPMs. Of course it makes sense for advanced GHC hackers to have
different versions lying around, but those people normally build GHC
from source anyway. And with the configure stuff relocating GHC is a
piece of cake, e.g. with

   ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/ghc

binaries go into /usr/bin, the whole rest into /usr/lib/ghc. So what's
the problem?  :-)

Cheers,
   Sven
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FreeBSD port of 4.06

2000-03-02 Thread Simon Marlow

I've sent in a patch to upgrade the FreeBSD port of GHC to 4.06.  If you
don't want to wait until they get around to incorporating it, the patch is
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17115

Cheers,
Simon



Re: GHC include files

2000-03-02 Thread George Russell

"Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" wrote:
> 
> Malcolm Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
> 
> > Can I propose a change to the -i / -I flags?  Currently, the -idir (or
> > -Idir) options add a directory to the search path for imports.  This
> > directory is either relative to the current dir, or absolute.  My
> > suggestion is that it could also be used for "relative to a standard
> > installation directory".  For instance, -Idata/edison would look first
> > in ./data/edison if it exists, then in $prefix/data/edison, where
> > $prefix has the value /usr/local/lib/ghc, or whatever.
I don't think this scheme would solve my problem at all.  As has been pointed
out before, I can already get the GHC include files appended by calling "ghc"
and not "gcc".  It's a good suggestion and one I shall probably follow.  BUT
it is not ideal because (a) ghc seems to munge up its arguments rather a lot -
for example, it rearranges libraries which is a problem for Solaris when you
are using the system linker; (b) if you had a huge C program to which you
wanted to link a little Haskell, it would be silly to compile all the code
in the C program with ghc, and it would also be silly to compile some C code
with gcc and some with gcc.  I'm not sure what would be best; perhaps
what I want is ghc options which won't do any compiling, but just tell me
where the include files and libraries are.   So then I can type
GHC_INCLUDES = `$(GHC) -display-includes`
or something like that . . .