Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Martin Landa wrote > Hi, > > 2016-12-30 16:26 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler < > neteler@ > >: >> Yes Windows binaries are missing (Martin is ill) but perhaps it is ok >> to deliver them soon. > > I managed prepare Windows packages already yesterday evening, both > standalone and osgeo4w packages are available. quick test of the 32bit binaries (osgeo4w, standalone). works fine. - best regards Helmut -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/release-planning-7-2-0-tp5298469p5301680.html Sent from the Grass - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-30 16:26 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > Yes Windows binaries are missing (Martin is ill) but perhaps it is ok > to deliver them soon. I managed prepare Windows packages already yesterday evening, both standalone and osgeo4w packages are available. Ma -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: >> I'm starting the procedure now... > > The tarball is out, the packagers have been notified. > Web pages updated (the announcement in the CMS is still in "draft" mode). > > As soon as some installers are available we can post the announcement. I would like to post it today, otherwise we cannot launch the 7.2.1 backports :) Yes Windows binaries are missing (Martin is ill) but perhaps it is ok to deliver them soon. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > I'm starting the procedure now... The tarball is out, the packagers have been notified. Web pages updated (the announcement in the CMS is still in "draft" mode). As soon as some installers are available we can post the announcement. Markus -- Markus Neteler http://www.mundialis.de - free data with free software http://grass.osgeo.org http://courses.neteler.org/blog ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Moritz Lennert wrote: > > > Le 25 décembre 2016 12:46:55 GMT+01:00, Martin Landa > a écrit : >>Hi, >> >>2016-12-20 9:50 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. >>This was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. >>> >>> Shall I wait with the release or just get it out? >> >>problem seems to fixed & solved [1]. We can release I would say. > > Perfect Christmas present ! :-) I'm starting the procedure now... Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Le 25 décembre 2016 12:46:55 GMT+01:00, Martin Landa a écrit : >Hi, > >2016-12-20 9:50 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : >>> No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one >>> student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other >>> students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly >>> installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. >This >>> was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. >> >> Shall I wait with the release or just get it out? > >problem seems to fixed & solved [1]. We can release I would say. Perfect Christmas present ! :-) Moritz > >Ma > >[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996 > >-- >Martin Landa >http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa >http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa >___ >grass-dev mailing list >grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-20 9:50 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : >> No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one >> student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other >> students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly >> installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. This >> was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. > > Shall I wait with the release or just get it out? problem seems to fixed & solved [1]. We can release I would say. Ma [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996 -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Markus Neteler wrote > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Anna Petrášová < > kratochanna@ > > wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Martin Landa < > landa.martin@ > > wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> 2016-12-10 20:00 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras < > wenzeslaus@ > >: Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, but the same behavior is back now. >>> >>> I tested various winGRASS versions on my Windows machine and most of >>> them worked [1]. I lost track what version of GRASS is not working >>> you? Ma >>> >> >> No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one >> student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other >> students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly >> installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. This >> was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. > > Shall I wait with the release or just get it out? > > Markus > >> Anna >> >>> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996#comment:17 > ___ > grass-dev mailing list > grass-dev@.osgeo > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev tested here on some windows boxes; it works for me. I may opt for release. - best regards Helmut -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/release-planning-7-2-0-tp5298469p5300596.html Sent from the Grass - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Anna Petrášová wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Martin Landa wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 2016-12-10 20:00 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras : >>> >>> Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so >>> that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, >>> but the same behavior is back now. >> >> I tested various winGRASS versions on my Windows machine and most of >> them worked [1]. I lost track what version of GRASS is not working >> you? Ma >> > > No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one > student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other > students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly > installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. This > was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. Shall I wait with the release or just get it out? Markus > Anna > >> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996#comment:17 ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Martin Landa wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-12-10 20:00 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras : >> >> Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so >> that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, >> but the same behavior is back now. > > I tested various winGRASS versions on my Windows machine and most of > them worked [1]. I lost track what version of GRASS is not working > you? Ma > No version was working for me. The weird thing is it worked for one student (I tested it myself on his computer), but for many other students it failed. So I tested different versions on freshly installed Windows 10 in Virtual Box on linux and nothing worked. This was couple weeks back, I can test again this week. Anna > [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996#comment:17 > > -- > Martin Landa > http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa > http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa > ___ > grass-dev mailing list > grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-10 20:00 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras : > > Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so > that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, > but the same behavior is back now. I tested various winGRASS versions on my Windows machine and most of them worked [1]. I lost track what version of GRASS is not working you? Ma [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2996#comment:17 -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote > another nice to have for winGRASS 7.2.0: > > https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/413#comment:29 > > no blocker, just an OSGeo4W-packaging issue; if this is solved, the > R-winGRASS-coupling-functionality will be the same in standalone winGRASS > and OSGeo4W-winGRASS. done for OSGeo4W-winGRASS by enable same R-winGRASS-coupling-functionality as already available in standalone winGRASS: r70067 - trunk r70068 - grass/branches/releasebranch_7_2 r70069 - grass/branches/releasebranch_7_0 testing welcome of one the upcoming winGRASS dailys. - best regards Helmut -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/release-planning-7-2-0-tp5298469p5299618.html Sent from the Grass - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Markus Neteler wrote > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Vaclav Petras < > wenzeslaus@ > > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Martin Landa < > landa.martin@ > > >> wrote: >>> >>> 2016-12-10 17:52 GMT+01:00 Helena Mitasova < > hmitaso@ > >: >>> > Regarding the release there is also a major issue with v.in.lidar - >>> > Vasek is this still a problem in 7.2? >>> >>> do you mean Windows issue reported on ML. If so, it's problem of >>> liblas package and WinGRASS packaging. Ma >> >> Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so >> that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one >> point, >> but the same behavior is back now. > > Sorry to bother: this does not sound like a GRASS GIS 7.2 problem to > me but a winGRASS packaging issue? yes it may be a winGRASS packaging isse. OTOH just tested the example from v.in.lidar manual: v.in.lidar -t -b input=D:\dl\Serpent Mound Model LAS Data.las output=Serpent_Mound_Model_pts Projection of input dataset and current location appear to match Scanning 3265110 points... 7437968 points imported (limit was 1024) 211 input points were skipped by count-based decimation The rest of points was ignored another nice to have for winGRASS 7.2.0: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/413#comment:29 no blocker, just an OSGeo4W-packaging issue; if this is solved, the R-winGRASS-coupling-functionality will be the same in standalone winGRASS and OSGeo4W-winGRASS. - best regards Helmut -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/release-planning-7-2-0-tp5298469p5299575.html Sent from the Grass - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Martin Landa wrote: > > 2016-12-11 20:39 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > > Sorry to bother: this does not sound like a GRASS GIS 7.2 problem to > > me but a winGRASS packaging issue? > > yes, it seems to be a WinGRASS packaging issue (I will have time to > look at it later in the end of week - Friday). From my POV, it's not > blocker for GRASS release. Ma I more or less agree, but what I don't know is if to package WinGRASS or not if the lidar stuff is broken. For example, the current situation is that from the current packages for the 7.0.x releases some support C++ modules and some lidar modules. However, I'm not sure if there is one 7.0.x release which supports both. Of course, it is the packaging issue not the release issue, but then should the package exist if it has a major issue? ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-11 20:39 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > Sorry to bother: this does not sound like a GRASS GIS 7.2 problem to > me but a winGRASS packaging issue? yes, it seems to be a WinGRASS packaging issue (I will have time to look at it later in the end of week - Friday). From my POV, it's not blocker for GRASS release. Ma -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Martin Landa > wrote: >> >> 2016-12-10 17:52 GMT+01:00 Helena Mitasova : >> > Regarding the release there is also a major issue with v.in.lidar - >> > Vasek is this still a problem in 7.2? >> >> do you mean Windows issue reported on ML. If so, it's problem of >> liblas package and WinGRASS packaging. Ma > > Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so > that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, > but the same behavior is back now. Sorry to bother: this does not sound like a GRASS GIS 7.2 problem to me but a winGRASS packaging issue? Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Martin Landa wrote: > 2016-12-10 17:52 GMT+01:00 Helena Mitasova : > > Regarding the release there is also a major issue with v.in.lidar - > Vasek is this still a problem in 7.2? > > do you mean Windows issue reported on ML. If so, it's problem of > liblas package and WinGRASS packaging. Ma Yes, that's it. Do you know how/where to push it upstream/downstream, so that the right people look at it? It seemed that it is fixed at one point, but the same behavior is back now. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi Helena, 2016-12-10 17:52 GMT+01:00 Helena Mitasova : > Regarding the release there is also a major issue with v.in.lidar - Vasek is > this still a problem in 7.2? do you mean Windows issue reported on ML. If so, it's problem of liblas package and WinGRASS packaging. Ma -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Regarding the release there is also a major issue with v.in.lidar - Vasek is this still a problem in 7.2? Helena > On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:18 AM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Martin Landa wrote: > 2016-12-10 16:51 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > > On Dec 7, 2016 10:02 PM, "Markus Neteler" wrote: > >> Now the current showstopper is MacOSX it seems... > > > > Is this really a GRASS issue? > > Do we still wait? > > I don't think so. Putting to cpy Anna and Vaclav who knows more. Ma > > The issue is with Mac OS system Python. On Linux, I would say "ask your > maintainers," no idea what you do on Mac. The Python version needs to be > updated. There is no way around it except for a major code change in GRASS > which would workaround a bug in Python on Mac (Mac libs (newly?) behaving > differently then other unixes or something like that). The bug is already > fixed and fix is released, so Mac needs to update Python. > > I would say, even at the download site, that there are no Mac binaries until > Mac Python maintainers update to latest Python 2.7. > > ___ > grass-dev mailing list > grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev Helena Mitasova Professor at the Department of Marine, Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences and Center for Geospatial Analytics North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 hmit...@ncsu.edu http://geospatial.ncsu.edu/osgeorel/publications.html "All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.” ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Martin Landa wrote: > 2016-12-10 16:51 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > > On Dec 7, 2016 10:02 PM, "Markus Neteler" wrote: > >> Now the current showstopper is MacOSX it seems... > > > > Is this really a GRASS issue? > > Do we still wait? > > I don't think so. Putting to cpy Anna and Vaclav who knows more. Ma The issue is with Mac OS system Python. On Linux, I would say "ask your maintainers," no idea what you do on Mac. The Python version needs to be updated. There is no way around it except for a major code change in GRASS which would workaround a bug in Python on Mac (Mac libs (newly?) behaving differently then other unixes or something like that). The bug is already fixed and fix is released, so Mac needs to update Python. I would say, even at the download site, that there are no Mac binaries until Mac Python maintainers update to latest Python 2.7. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-10 16:51 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > On Dec 7, 2016 10:02 PM, "Markus Neteler" wrote: >> Now the current showstopper is MacOSX it seems... > > Is this really a GRASS issue? > Do we still wait? I don't think so. Putting to cpy Anna and Vaclav who knows more. Ma -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Dec 7, 2016 10:02 PM, "Markus Neteler" wrote: > Now the current showstopper is MacOSX it seems... Is this really a GRASS issue? Do we still wait? Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Martin Landa wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-12-05 9:33 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi : >> Yes I also think this, but I'm not sure if it is better to change the >> behavior of r.out.xyz or keep it like the actual one and change it in >> the next main release. >> For sure we should add parameter to permit to return also NULL values >> before the 7.2 release > > I am not sure complicated it is and who will do it soon. Solved with a non-invasive new flag. Now the current showstopper is MacOSX it seems... Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Martin Landa wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-12-05 9:33 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi : >> Yes I also think this, but I'm not sure if it is better to change the >> behavior of r.out.xyz or keep it like the actual one and change it in >> the next main release. >> For sure we should add parameter to permit to return also NULL values >> before the 7.2 release > > I am not sure complicated it is It is just a change in a Python script: grep r.stats scripts/r.out.xyz/r.out.xyz.py # This is a simple wrapper script for "r.stats -1ng" grass.run_command("r.stats", **parameters) around the -n usage of the r.stats call in r.out.xyz. > and who will do it soon. We cannot > wait forever. There will be 7.2.1 quite soon (in three/four months). If we change the behavior of the r.out.xyz script we need to postpone that to 7.4.0 or correctly 8.0.0. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
Hi, 2016-12-05 9:33 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi : > Yes I also think this, but I'm not sure if it is better to change the > behavior of r.out.xyz or keep it like the actual one and change it in > the next main release. > For sure we should add parameter to permit to return also NULL values > before the 7.2 release I am not sure complicated it is and who will do it soon. We cannot wait forever. There will be 7.2.1 quite soon (in three/four months). Ma -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On 5 December 2016 at 08:10, Markus Neteler wrote: > > On Dec 3, 2016 6:00 PM, "Martin Landa" wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> it's one week GRASS 7.2.0RC2 has been released. It's time to think >> about 7.2.0 final release. I don't see any blocker [1], if no >> objection > > ... what about the NULL export in r.out.xyz? Currently it looks like an > anomaly. > Yes I also think this, but I'm not sure if it is better to change the behavior of r.out.xyz or keep it like the actual one and change it in the next main release. For sure we should add parameter to permit to return also NULL values before the 7.2 release > Markus > -- ciao Luca www.lucadelu.org ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] 7.2.0
On Dec 3, 2016 6:00 PM, "Martin Landa" wrote: > > Hi, > > it's one week GRASS 7.2.0RC2 has been released. It's time to think > about 7.2.0 final release. I don't see any blocker [1], if no > objection ... what about the NULL export in r.out.xyz? Currently it looks like an anomaly. Markus > I would vote for going ahead and release 7.2.0 in the > beginning of the next week. Any comments? > > Thanks, Ma > > [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&priority=blocker&priority=critical&milestone=7.2.0&group=type&order=priority > > -- > Martin Landa > http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa > http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa > ___ > grass-dev mailing list > grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev