Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
> If one were into wild conspiracy theories, then obviously the government
> spy agencies are trying to encourage expansion of the Amazon cloud
> services because they believe they will be able monitor everyone else's
> cloud activities more easily if they are managed by Amazon rather than IBM.

a different conspiracy theory ... privatizing gov. intelligence by
for-profit companies

the head of IBM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.
leaves and becomes chairman of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
which then does private equity buyout of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton

Spies Like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

from above:

Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of
the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of
the available manpower.

... snip ...

How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington

with for-profit companies prevasive presence in the intelligence world,
there has been instances of levaging the infrastructures for economic &
industrial espionage (aka 70% of gov. intelligence is currently
for-profit companies).

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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-23 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/21/2013 09:46 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
> Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.
> 
> 
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
> 
> By Alistair Barr
> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that "no one ever got
> fired for buying IBM" is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
> standard in computing services for decades.
> 
> But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
> e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
> cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.
> 
> After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
> startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
> International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
> contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.
> 
> IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
> But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
> into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
> companies, and government bodies.
> 
> 
> 
> IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
> That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
> Associates.
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 

If one were into wild conspiracy theories, then obviously the government
spy agencies are trying to encourage expansion of the Amazon cloud
services because they believe they will be able monitor everyone else's
cloud activities more easily if they are managed by Amazon rather than IBM.

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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Shriver, Gregory A
Very interesting article.  About a year ago I read that Amazon's profit margins 
on AWS were north of 40% as compared to 2% for their etailing biz.  If you were 
Amazon,which portion of the business would be most aggresively trying to grow?

Anyone who does not think that Amazon is a major IT player is kidding 
themselves.


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 Original message 
From: Lizette Koehler 
Date: 07/21/2013 10:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud


Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.



http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html

By Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that "no one ever got
fired for buying IBM" is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
standard in computing services for decades.

But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.

After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.

IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
companies, and government bodies.



IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
Associates.


Lizette

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Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Scott Ford
Lizette,

Sounds like IBM is expanding their business. Not a bad thing, especially in 
this economy.

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
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'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'


On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

> Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.
> 
> 
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
> 
> By Alistair Barr
> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that "no one ever got
> fired for buying IBM" is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
> standard in computing services for decades.
> 
> But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
> e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
> cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.
> 
> After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
> startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
> International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
> contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.
> 
> IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
> But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
> into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
> companies, and government bodies.
> 
> 
> 
> IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
> That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
> Associates.
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
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IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.



http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html

By Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that "no one ever got
fired for buying IBM" is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold
standard in computing services for decades.

But IBM faces an unlikely challenger in Amazon.com Inc(NSQ:AMZN), the
e-commerce retail giant that is becoming a force in the booming business of
cloud computing, even winning backing from America's top spy agency.

After years of being dismissed as a supplier of online computer services to
startups and small businesses, Amazon Web Services (AWS) beat out
International Business Machines(NYS:IBM) this year to snag a $600 million
contract with the Central Intelligence Agency.

IBM has successfully appealed its loss in the contest, stalling it for now.
But the episode highlights how Amazon is evolving from an online retailer
into a competitive provider of information technology and services to big
companies, and government bodies.



IBM bought SoftLayer Technologies, a rival to AWS, for $2 billion in June.
That could help it when the CIA comes calling again, said Bill Moran at Ptak
Associates.


Lizette

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