[Ilugc] net4india thinks ilugc mail is spam
dear ilugc members (with net4india as isp = users @linuxpertacademy.com and us...@bksystems.co.in and maybe others) net4india thinks that ilugc mail is spam and is bouncing it to postmaster; this is not the first time and i dont see why postmaster has to request net4india to whitelist ilugc every time. so, sorry, net4india customers, i have to unsubscribe you. take it up with net4india or change your isp and welcome back ... sriram ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] My deceptively simple shutdown script after music playsq
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 11:43 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Raja Subramanian > wrote: > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > >> I do something similar for overnight downloads on my netbook. The > >> system shuts down when there is 0 TCP connection. > > > > I just use "at", but I should look into something more sophisticated. > > > > My typical "at" usage: > > > >liraz:~# at now + 5 hours > >warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh > >at> /sbin/poweroff > >at> > >job 12 at Sun May 23 04:24:00 2010 I was about to respond if it is just turning off the system why not use 'shutdown +300' which does the same as above. But thought of checking the diff between shutdown and poweroff. I looks like shutdown does things more gracefully than poweroff. But shutdown does not switch off the machine, if you want shutdown to do so you need to use -P. As per the link below http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2001-October/000142.html http://linuxservertutorials.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-power-off-ubuntu-server-with.html ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] My deceptively simple shutdown script after music playsq
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Arun Khan wrote: > 'at' is a one time deal. It is fine if you want your machine to > shutdown at a specific time. I also use it to _start_ the download of > iso or big package files after midnight but what about shutting down > the machine after the download is complete? It is not deterministic > therefore you need to monitor the no. of TCP connections on your > system at regular intervals. IMO, cron is the best option. > Oops. This thread is getting a bit tedious. Let us move on. The idea is never to cron this reboot business. I run the script I sent only when I feel like it. Not always. So it is one shot like at(1). So at(1) is a good tool to use for this purpose too. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech web: http://gayatri-hitech.com SpamCheetah Spam filter: http://spam-cheetah.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] My deceptively simple shutdown script after music playsq
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Raja Subramanian wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Arun Khan wrote: >> I do something similar for overnight downloads on my netbook. The >> system shuts down when there is 0 TCP connection. > > I just use "at", but I should look into something more sophisticated. > > My typical "at" usage: > > liraz:~# at now + 5 hours > warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh > at> /sbin/poweroff > at> > job 12 at Sun May 23 04:24:00 2010 'at' is a one time deal. It is fine if you want your machine to shutdown at a specific time. I also use it to _start_ the download of iso or big package files after midnight but what about shutting down the machine after the download is complete? It is not deterministic therefore you need to monitor the no. of TCP connections on your system at regular intervals. IMO, cron is the best option. -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ssh tricks to access any private IP machine without VPN
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Guruprasad wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:01 AM, R Rajendhran wrote: >> Windows users have plenty of third-party tools like GotoMyPC, TeamViewer, >> etc. to overcome the Public IP problems. >> >> Now, TeamViewer is available for Linux also. Here is the download link: >> >> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx#downloadAreaLinux >> >> -- Rajendhran > > Is TeamViewer FLOSS? I don't think so. > Moreover in the Indian bandwidth constrained environment these Windoze tools won't work properly. Incredibly slow and useless. Whereas ssh is ASCII. So highly usable and meaningful. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech web: http://gayatri-hitech.com SpamCheetah Spam filter: http://spam-cheetah.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] conky and cycle for web based network monitoring
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: > > Check the time of my previous email. I replied just after checking. I > still get the same blank page though both th time page source shows > the same as what you posted. > Checked with firefox this time, it works. It doesn't work with google chrome. I see. Browser compatibility issue. Okay. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech web: http://gayatri-hitech.com SpamCheetah Spam filter: http://spam-cheetah.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] suggestions on a new site
1. this mail does not belong on this list - we as a community believe that security is a process best served by open sourcing the software. 2. further we as a community of hackers feel insulted that we are confused with crackers 3. and finally we believe that the only effective way to test proprietary software is to hire a million monkeys and put them on a million keyboards, and we wish to assure you that there are no monkeys available on this list. On Monday 24 May 2010 01:16:07 Perl Programmer wrote: > Dear Friends > > Brief intro befor coming to question > > I am part of vast majority of this group ( silient spectators ) , made a > few posts although not from this mail id . > > been a unix ,perl ,cms developer for most of my career , now I am involed > as lead deveoper for one of largest banking sites. > > My client is worried that someone will hack into their new site ( banking > site ,security integerity etc etc ) > > Even though we carried out a penetration test by a specialist team from > Argentina and Isreal there is really nothing in the report except known > vulnarabilites like sql injection ,cross script attack and how to prevent > them , would have been happy if they were identified. Basically a crap > report running into thousands of pages virtually meaningless/Even after the > report came out he (client ) was asking me to try to break into the > application. > > > > Mostly there can be only 2 ways to hack into a system ( correct me if I am > wrong ) > > 1) Basically the system admin is an idiot or > > 2) Some thusfar unknown vulnarabilty which is exploited > > > > Most of us would be fascinated if someone says they hacked into something ( > Ankit fadia ) , atleast eager to find out what they did,which they probably > will never tell or nothing might have happenned ( like tcs.com hack in > techcrunch ) > > Every often we can read in newspapers about hacking festivals in colleges > where something was hacked in under X hours and prizes distributed by Mr X > ( I wish this is as simple ) > > > > Enough background ,now the question > > 1) I want to setup a server where commonly used tools will be > available ( a simple linux box with apache + one DB + one cms + what ever > the machine config can support ), users will get appropriate access > including shell + whatever , even root if that’s required. > > 2) Users can freely experiment without any fear of anything ( no fear > of internals for students & no legal action whatsoever. This is a outright > promise > > 3) Subject to small fee ( not for profitabilty but for maintanence ) , > collecting fee may not be a good idea afterall /Any sponsors for servers & > bandwidth? > > > > 4) Anyone who are really sucessful in their experiments must be > willing to share their experiences , anonymously also welcome. > > > > 5) T&C to be decided and agreed > > > > > > > > Do you think this a good enough idea to be implemented ? > > +usual disclaimer as my cats have apprently learned to type I am in no way > responsible for anything including content of this email and any flame war > that might happen . Nor my employer has any relation to this mail . this > mail is in good faith and is meant to help students and programming > community at large. > ___ > ILUGC Mailing List: > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > -- regards kg http://livejournal.com/lawgon ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] suggestions on a new site
Dear Friends Brief intro befor coming to question I am part of vast majority of this group ( silient spectators ) , made a few posts although not from this mail id . been a unix ,perl ,cms developer for most of my career , now I am involed as lead deveoper for one of largest banking sites. My client is worried that someone will hack into their new site ( banking site ,security integerity etc etc ) Even though we carried out a penetration test by a specialist team from Argentina and Isreal there is really nothing in the report except known vulnarabilites like sql injection ,cross script attack and how to prevent them , would have been happy if they were identified. Basically a crap report running into thousands of pages virtually meaningless/Even after the report came out he (client ) was asking me to try to break into the application. Mostly there can be only 2 ways to hack into a system ( correct me if I am wrong ) 1) Basically the system admin is an idiot or 2) Some thusfar unknown vulnarabilty which is exploited Most of us would be fascinated if someone says they hacked into something ( Ankit fadia ) , atleast eager to find out what they did,which they probably will never tell or nothing might have happenned ( like tcs.com hack in techcrunch ) Every often we can read in newspapers about hacking festivals in colleges where something was hacked in under X hours and prizes distributed by Mr X ( I wish this is as simple ) Enough background ,now the question 1) I want to setup a server where commonly used tools will be available ( a simple linux box with apache + one DB + one cms + what ever the machine config can support ), users will get appropriate access including shell + whatever , even root if that’s required. 2) Users can freely experiment without any fear of anything ( no fear of internals for students & no legal action whatsoever. This is a outright promise 3) Subject to small fee ( not for profitabilty but for maintanence ) , collecting fee may not be a good idea afterall /Any sponsors for servers & bandwidth? 4) Anyone who are really sucessful in their experiments must be willing to share their experiences , anonymously also welcome. 5) T&C to be decided and agreed Do you think this a good enough idea to be implemented ? +usual disclaimer as my cats have apprently learned to type I am in no way responsible for anything including content of this email and any flame war that might happen . Nor my employer has any relation to this mail . this mail is in good faith and is meant to help students and programming community at large. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ssh tricks to access any private IP machine without VPN
Hi, On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:01 AM, R Rajendhran wrote: > Windows users have plenty of third-party tools like GotoMyPC, TeamViewer, > etc. to overcome the Public IP problems. > > Now, TeamViewer is available for Linux also. Here is the download link: > > http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx#downloadAreaLinux > > -- Rajendhran Is TeamViewer FLOSS? I don't think so. Regards, Guruprasad ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] conky and cycle for web based network monitoring
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: >> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Girish Venkatachalam >> wrote: >>> Wth this beautiful result: >>> >>> http://lamp.healthsoftusa.com/conky.html >> >> a blank page? > > When did you get it? Check the time of my previous email. I replied just after checking. I still get the same blank page though both th time page source shows the same as what you posted. Checked with firefox this time, it works. It doesn't work with google chrome. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Guidance needed
A lot of free advice. Like it or lump it. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:56 PM, rajkumar vbalakrishnasamy wrote: > I did my engineering in Dr.Mahalingam college of Engineering and > Technology,Coimbatore with 65% of aggregate and just now finished the Anna > university exams and waiting for results.And Dr.Mahalingam college had a > good placement this year but i was not placed in any company. > Already you know how to quote properly and you don't do top posting. Great start. ;) My academic credentials were similar. I got around 66% and I studied ECE. But I studied a very long time ago. > First of all i have lot of confusions regarding Ph.d.So i decided to > join a company first. Good idea. I will second that. > Nothing related to PHP and Cloud Computing.I recently attended a cloud > computing workshop @ PSG Tech,Coimbatore and National Free Software > Conference 2010 [Amazon Cloud Computing Workshop] by National Free Software > Movement Karnataka.So i got interest in cloud computing and have an idea to > do research in future. I do lot of research solving real life problems day in day out. Some of the networking problems I solve are world class. No academic environment can give you that. Industry is better. More seriousness, more dividends and you tend to meet better people there. But there is no rule. Unless you do research from Stanford or MIT or Berkeley you may not get the right exposure I think. But these days a lot of innovation, creativity and research happens in the open source world. Not in any of the top univs. The bazaar proved a success leaving the temples of education behind. I am from a good college but I am no IITian. > PHP is fun and easy to learn that's all nothing else.Previously i have > done projects using Python , Java , Jsp in academic level.I just preferred > because it it the current tr > I will reserve my comments about PHP. >>What is your goal in life? > I have interest in doing Research so only i decided to do Ph.D where > cloud computing as Main research area but not now because i changed my > mindset to join a job first. Good idea. > And my area of interest is Web designing and i have designed lot of > websites for my college symposium ,cultural and other fests.And i have > participated in various paper presentations. And i also IBM The Great Mind > Challenge contest two times.So i know Web services concepts too which is a > base for cloud computing. One gets a lot of great ideas but any great idea be it a product idea or whatever else you are talking about needs a lot of time and whetting out to attain fruition. Most of our ideas appear great ab initio but turn out to be disasters later. It is very likely that your current focus areas are totally off the mark. Over time you will learn that an idea has to possess your being to quote Swami Vivekananda. "It should enter every pore of the body, become your nerve, blood vessels and pulsate in every tissue." Sorry if I misquote this great saint. That is the idea. Unless you have such a strong resolve success is very hard. I had a burning desire to start a company in 2000. Even now I have not succeeded. Your goal is not so big but still you need to know how strongly the idea has entered your system. You should not change your mind even if the entire world is against you. Most people cannot even survive a storm. ;) > I am at this stage only having lot of confusions to set my goal > towards career and settle in a job or do higher studies. > I disagree. I had two years of experience working in the best company in India at that time. I had got into it through campus. You don't have such credentials yet. Your thinking right now cannot give you right answers as you don't have exposure/experience yet. So first do the best in your circumstances and take up a job in the favorite area, say PHP. That is important. Lot of boys I meet don't know which area to embrace. One should know that clearly. Take my case. I have stuck to UNIX for the past 14 years and still going strong. In your situation you have that choice. There are companies working on every domain you can imagine in Chennai and Bangalore. But no company can give you a career. They can only give you a job. You have to build a career over 10 years. Best of luck and May God shower you with blessings! Your brother, Girish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 10.04 Repository DVDs / ISOs available
Dear All, http://ubunturepo.hnsdc.com/lucid/ We have downloaded all the 8 nos. of Ubuntu 10.04 Repository DVD ISOs and those who need may contact us in the following address. LinuXpert Systems, Ph: (044) 43588282, 94898-55885 (Sivabalan), 98841-65649 (Baskar) E-mail: sivaba...@fssi.org.in / bas...@fssi.org.in Note: The cost per ISO is Rs.40/- or Rs.60/- per DVD Regards S. Baskar CEO/LinuXpert Systems ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Guidance needed
>You don't mention the college and your academic credentials. I did my engineering in Dr.Mahalingam college of Engineering and Technology,Coimbatore with 65% of aggregate and just now finished the Anna university exams and waiting for results.And Dr.Mahalingam college had a good placement this year but i was not placed in any company. >Do you want to do Ph.d in cloud computing? >Why? First of all i have lot of confusions regarding Ph.d.So i decided to join a company first. >What has php got to do with cloud computing? Nothing related to PHP and Cloud Computing.I recently attended a cloud computing workshop @ PSG Tech,Coimbatore and National Free Software Conference 2010 [Amazon Cloud Computing Workshop] by National Free Software Movement Karnataka.So i got interest in cloud computing and have an idea to do research in future. PHP is fun and easy to learn that's all nothing else.Previously i have done projects using Python , Java , Jsp in academic level.I just preferred because it it the current tr >What is your goal in life? I have interest in doing Research so only i decided to do Ph.D where cloud computing as Main research area but not now because i changed my mindset to join a job first. >It is very important to know what personality type you are And my area of interest is Web designing and i have designed lot of websites for my college symposium ,cultural and other fests.And i have participated in various paper presentations. And i also IBM The Great Mind Challenge contest two times.So i know Web services concepts too which is a base for cloud computing. >Or can you start a company? I don't have idea to become an Entrepreneur. >I also had a plan to do Phd abroad but I quickly dropped the idea. It was very >painful for me to come to terms with my confusion but things started >stabilizing >after a few months. I am at this stage only having lot of confusions to set my goal towards career and settle in a job or do higher studies. Regards, Rajkumar On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Girish Venkatachalam < girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM, rajkumar vbalakrishnasamy > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am a fresh graduate finished my B.E.Computer Science in > 2010 > > and not yet placed in any company in campus recruitment.And i have > decided > > to learn php and cloud computing and then to search for job .And now i am > > learning php from online tutor.Please suggest some job opportunities in > > India [I visited fossjobs.in website recently] and abroad.And how can i > > start to proceed towards doing research and ph.d in cloud > computing.Kindly > > provide necessary guidance and details. > > > You don't mention the college and your academic credentials. ;) > > Do you want to do Phd in cloud computing? > > Why? > > What has php got to do with cloud computing? > > You say you want job opportunities in India and you also say you want to do > Phd. > > I am confused. > > For doing Phd you have to live without income for 5 years or with a > stipend. > > And even after 5 years there is no guarantee you will get a 'Dr' in > front of your name. > > What is your goal in life? > > In my case I had a lot of difficulty choosing my goal when I had around 2 > years > experience. > > > I also had a plan to do Phd abroad but I quickly dropped the idea. It was > very > painful for me to come to terms with my confusion but things started > stabilizing > after a few months. > > It is very important to know what personality type you are. > > Are you a working type or an academic kind? > > Or can you start a company? > > -Girish > > > -- > Gayatri Hitech > web: http://gayatri-hitech.com > > SpamCheetah Spam filter: > http://spam-cheetah.com > ___ > ILUGC Mailing List: > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > -- राजकुमार follow me http://twitter.com/krisrajkumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Guidance needed
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM, rajkumar vbalakrishnasamy wrote: > Hi all, > I am a fresh graduate finished my B.E.Computer Science in 2010 > and not yet placed in any company in campus recruitment.And i have decided > to learn php and cloud computing and then to search for job .And now i am > learning php from online tutor.Please suggest some job opportunities in > India [I visited fossjobs.in website recently] and abroad.And how can i > start to proceed towards doing research and ph.d in cloud computing.Kindly > provide necessary guidance and details. You don't mention the college and your academic credentials. ;) Do you want to do Phd in cloud computing? Why? What has php got to do with cloud computing? You say you want job opportunities in India and you also say you want to do Phd. I am confused. For doing Phd you have to live without income for 5 years or with a stipend. And even after 5 years there is no guarantee you will get a 'Dr' in front of your name. What is your goal in life? In my case I had a lot of difficulty choosing my goal when I had around 2 years experience. I also had a plan to do Phd abroad but I quickly dropped the idea. It was very painful for me to come to terms with my confusion but things started stabilizing after a few months. It is very important to know what personality type you are. Are you a working type or an academic kind? Or can you start a company? -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech web: http://gayatri-hitech.com SpamCheetah Spam filter: http://spam-cheetah.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Guidance needed
hi >>but how could i do real time projects through online. www.sf.net has many projects based on php for earning perspective www.odesk.com though i know neither about the functioning of the company,nor about the payment systems. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
