[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 --- Comment #7 from Paul M --- Created attachment 103416 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=103416&action=edit An illustration of how less precise scrolling using the bar can be vs. clicking the area formerly occupied by the scroll arrow. It makes no sense to remove/hide this tried-and-tested feature for precise scrolling! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 --- Comment #6 from Paul M --- (In reply to John Salatas from comment #5) > You can also use the keyboard's up/down arrow keys, for more > precision/control. You could, but sometimes the mouse is simply more convenient than the keyboard. There are also some situations where you do not know where has the focus for keyboard input, and in those situations it is better to use the mouse. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 John Salatas changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jsala...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from John Salatas --- You can also use the keyboard's up/down arrow keys, for more precision/control. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 Paul M changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|WORKSFORME |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 --- Comment #4 from Paul M --- (In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #3) > Don't you have a mouse wheel or scroll gesture on your touchpad? Yes I do but those aren't always precise (especially touchpad scroll gestures). The arrows are useful for scrolling small distances, or for scrolling lazily whereby you just keep the arrow pressed down. I know you don't *have* to click the arrow itself to scroll, but I think they add some visual clarity, especially for novices, that the function is for moving up and down. The arrows also distinguish a scroll bar from other UI elements used in breeze e.g. in Dolphin there is a disk space indicator which looks almost visually identical to a scroll bar. Hide the arrow when the mouse is not over and you still get the elegant clean clutter-free design you are striving for. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 --- Comment #3 from Kai Uwe Broulik --- Don't you have a mouse wheel or scroll gesture on your touchpad? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 --- Comment #2 from Paul M --- (In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #1) > You can configure which buttons you want Yes, I know you can configure the scroll bar, but as a default it doesn't make sense to hide the arrow. The defaults should also be suitable for novices and most of my relatives (who have used computers for years) read webpages by repeatedly clicking the arrow. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Breeze] [Bug 375005] New scrollbars for Plasma 4.9: slow scrolling is no longer intuitive
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375005 Kai Uwe Broulik changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC||k...@privat.broulik.de Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Kai Uwe Broulik --- You can configure which buttons you want to have a scroll bars in System Settings → Application Style → "Configure" next to the "Breeze" dropdown → Scroll bars. (or just run "breeze-settings5" app) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.