Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Mikel Pascual wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > >> 2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė: >> >> Hello, Hello to you all, I'm new here. I've been a translator for lots of projects, but just found out about the LibreOffice fork and i'm very happy to get away from Oracle. Sorry to start with a "me too" response, but i don't know how people get their voices heard otherwise around here yet. >>> My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with >>> POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance. >>> >>> However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail >>> addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. >... >> For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as >>> this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability >>> issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I >>> am writing this mail. :-) >... >>> I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are >>> really ugly for e-mail accounts. >>> >> I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly. I agree. >> I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's >> nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make >> up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy? It seems to me that if you give someone an address then you are indeed giving them some authority to "speak for" the organization. Why shouldn't people use their own addresses? > I first thought that maybe the Steering Committee and people in charge of > l10n/marketing/website/etc should get one, so things could be more official. > but... things would be more official, and it may discourage people to debate > after a response from a @libreoffice.org mail? If someone is discouraged by the return address of a member of the Steering Committee then they will probably be discouraged to reply to a Committee member no matter what their address. > it's great to see the willingness to give @libreoffice.org addresses, but I > don't see the advantages; apart from the excitement of having > m...@libreoffice.org, of course. Yes. It would be "cool", but unnecessary. > I may be wrong, and a @libreoffice.org reward is worth the effort? I have many domains where i give out addresses. There is work involved and i wonder if it's worth the effort administering the addresses, rather than putting that into LibreOffice itself? >> Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except >> OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't >> think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses >> already). Agreed. Thank you. -- universero trio Esperanto, The International Language! What's that? See http://Esperanto.Org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > 2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė: > > Hello, >> >> as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out >> official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members >> per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the >> membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be >> online as audio recording soon.) >> >> My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with >> POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance. >> >> However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail >> addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that >> @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with >> TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC >> or administrators. >> > > agreed. > > > For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as >> this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability >> issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I >> am writing this mail. :-) >> >> My plan is actually to have something like >> >>volunteer.nickn...@libreofficecommunity.org >> or >>volunteer.nickn...@libreofficemail.org >> or >>volunteer.nickn...@libreofficevolunteers.org >> >> I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are >> really ugly for e-mail accounts. >> > > I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly. > > I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's > nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make > up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy? > +1 I first thought that maybe the Steering Committee and people in charge of l10n/marketing/website/etc should get one, so things could be more official. but... things would be more official, and it may discourage people to debate after a response from a @libreoffice.org mail? it's great to see the willingness to give @libreoffice.org addresses, but I don't see the advantages; apart from the excitement of having m...@libreoffice.org, of course. I may be wrong, and a @libreoffice.org reward is worth the effort? I'll keep reading this. This will be interesting > Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except > OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't > think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses > already). > +1 > > Rimas > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > l10n+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė: Hello, as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be online as audio recording soon.) My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance. However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC or administrators. agreed. For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I am writing this mail. :-) My plan is actually to have something like volunteer.nickn...@libreofficecommunity.org or volunteer.nickn...@libreofficemail.org or volunteer.nickn...@libreofficevolunteers.org I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are really ugly for e-mail accounts. I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly. I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy? Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses already). Rimas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
On 14/01/11 18:14, sophie wrote: > Hi all, > > I know that you're very busy with all kind of translations and > community task but I would like you to read the mail below and give > your opinion on your preferred choice and also, I would like you to be > aware of the yesterday's SC meeting: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13 > > As you can see André, Fridrich and me are going to established the > Member Committee. Please, read the Community Bylaws, ask your > questions, speak about them around you, it is our Community life, so > it's important :-) > Thanks in advance > Kind regards > Sophie > > > Original Message > Subject: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:11:33 +0100 > From: Florian Effenberger > Reply-To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org > Organization: The Document Foundation > To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org > > > > Hello, > > as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out > official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members > per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the > membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be > online as audio recording soon.) > > My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with > POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance. > > However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail > addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that > @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with > TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC > or administrators. > > For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as > this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability > issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I > am writing this mail. :-) > > My plan is actually to have something like > > volunteer.nickn...@libreofficecommunity.org > or > volunteer.nickn...@libreofficemail.org > or > volunteer.nickn...@libreofficevolunteers.org > > I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are > really ugly for e-mail accounts. > > What are your thoughts? > > Florian > Well, I would say the only problem would be if the documentfoundation.org domain was to be put under the same conditions, which would lead to issues. However, the libreoffice.org (also applies to regional ones) domain should be available for every contributor in the community. These can however, as you point out, be different depending on the involvement. -Olav. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
Hi all, I know that you're very busy with all kind of translations and community task but I would like you to read the mail below and give your opinion on your preferred choice and also, I would like you to be aware of the yesterday's SC meeting: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13 As you can see André, Fridrich and me are going to established the Member Committee. Please, read the Community Bylaws, ask your questions, speak about them around you, it is our Community life, so it's important :-) Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie Original Message Subject:[steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:11:33 +0100 From: Florian Effenberger Reply-To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org Organization: The Document Foundation To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org Hello, as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be online as audio recording soon.) My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance. However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC or administrators. For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I am writing this mail. :-) My plan is actually to have something like volunteer.nickn...@libreofficecommunity.org or volunteer.nickn...@libreofficemail.org or volunteer.nickn...@libreofficevolunteers.org I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are really ugly for e-mail accounts. What are your thoughts? Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***