[lace] another bobbin maker
Fran (Bloomer?) makes lovely bobbins and other wood tools. I love her Danish ones, many have bowling ball material for the ball of the bobbin. She's used bowling ball for tatting shuttles, too. She sometimes comes to IOLI convention, but often just sends her things with Kathy Kirchner. Robin Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin Makers and Painters
Diane Miller moved to France. I think it was the Evian region. I haven´t heard anything of her recently - but I just love her bobbins Pam in sunny southern Spain Quoting jjal...@swbell.net: I originally posted this to lace-chat, but Janice Blair suggested I really meant to it post to lace, so here goes.. Yes, a very interesting thread as I am seeing names very new to me. Who remembers Harvey Helmke? Carolyn Gritzmaker? or Diane Miller? Harvey was the king of rings and his finish was silky smooth. He also made beautiful embroidery tools. Sadly he passed away about 10 years ago. Carolyn was very creative. She once carved a small, closed hand for the bobbin tail as a thank you for 'a helping hand'. Carolyn retired about 15 years ago. And Diane was another painter of delicate flowers. Diane moved from her cottage in the watercress fields and seems to have dropped out of sight. Judy in beautiful Houston, TX - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Copyright etc.
We are all made to feel so guilty about this copyright issue that we dare not breathe without thinking of potential issues involved. Thank you, Brian, for applying some common sense to this topic! Similar to students who cannot afford the software that they need to learn to later make some money by using it (and buying it as soon as they can, of course!). I don't blame them for using some evaluation copies just to learn the tools. Especially in the small lace making world we should share as much as we can to keep this craft alive. I know of a pattern creator who doesn't even allows for the lace made from her patterns to be displayed! This is so ridiculous - you may make the lace but then have to hide it from the world's eyes ... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Copyright etc.
In a message dated 02/10/2010 11:10:21 GMT Daylight Time, ac...@achims.de writes: I know of a pattern creator who doesn't even allows for the lace made from her patterns to be displayed! But surely, if you have legitimately paid for the pattern, the lace you make from it is your own copyright as it is now the actual *thing*, with your personal differences due to thread choice etc. I'm sure that when in the past we have had posts about the minutiae of copyright and lace patterns, if you sell (or even lend) a book you are technically supposed to destroy the patterns/photocopies you made from that book, as those are what is copyright, but the lace you made from those patterns is exempt because it is your interpretation of the pattern. Not quite sure how the display aspect versus copyright would come into play if you want to display it via photos of your lace on a website (with proper credits, of course) but I really don't see how you can be stopped from displaying it in the flesh, as it were. Why doesn't she want as many people as possible to see her designs anyway? And surely if it is shown made by people other than herself, that demonstrates it is a good workable pattern. And what would she do if you did display it? Surely not have a hissy-fit in public, or ban you from her classes? Jacquie in Lincolnshire. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Copyright etc.
Hello Jacquie, Am 02.10.2010 um 12:42 schrieb laceandb...@aol.com: Why doesn't she want as many people as possible to see her designs anyway? And surely if it is shown made by people other than herself, that demonstrates it is a good workable pattern. And what would she do if you did display it? Surely not have a hissy-fit in public, or ban you from her classes? That's exactly the questions that came up in a discussion about her on a german lace list. Apparently she was afraid someone could take a photo at a lace exhibition and then reconstruct the pattern. But there's a simple solution - I just don't buy her patterns (which were quite simple Torchon patterns anyway, if I remember correctly). Best from Berlin, where it's sunny for a change and the beautiful autumn colours are starting to show up on the trees, Achim. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] RE: bobbin makers
Hi again Pamela Glew in Canada decorates bobbins Joan On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jenny Brandis je...@brandis.com.au wrote: Hello List, I am compiling this thread into a spreadsheet broken into turners and decorators to give a more complete single list - would you like me to put it online once it is 'done'? Jenny B Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Copyright etc.
Prime example of someone being a little over precious if you ask me. It has clearly lost her sales in two ways. Firstly people like you Achim who won't now buy her designs and all the people who may have seen worked samples and bought designs from her. If the patterns are that simple torchon, chances are the same 'design' could be created by someone else independently by coincidence. I think it's a shame when people get precious like this as it can put people off getting into a rewarding hobby and meeting people who are mostly wonderful, sharing, friendly and inspiring makers and designers. Just my two pennyworth. Claire Allen Kent, UK staying in and having a lazy day with my son. Might even get my lace out in a minute. www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. That's exactly the questions that came up in a discussion about her on a german lace list. Apparently she was afraid someone could take a photo at a lace exhibition and then reconstruct the pattern. But there's a simple solution - I just don't buy her patterns (which were quite simple Torchon patterns anyway, if I remember correctly). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbin makers and decorators
The last few days we have been chatting about the different makers and decorators of lace bobbins, this has been compiled into two lists and is definitely not to be considered the complete list as I am sure each of us can think of more to add to the list. Both the Bobbin Makers and the Bobbin Decorators files are small and in PDF format (can be opened and read with the free Adobe Acrobat Reader) and they can be found on my website here The list is sorted on the surname then the first name of the maker/decorator. The maker/decorator may be listed more than once if information about them was provided more than once. Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Bobbin makers and decorators
Both the Bobbin Makers and the Bobbin Decorators files are small and in PDF format (can be opened and read with the free Adobe Acrobat Reader) and they can be found on my website here Sorry folks, I forgot that Arachne strips out hyperlinks :-) Here is the web address again http://www.brandis.com.au/arachne/bobbins/bobbins.html Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Thanks to Jenny
Well I didn't think that my innocent posting would result in such an avalanche of names. Alas, although I did make some bobbins for my youngest daughter from 3mm dowling using a Stanley knive, I wouldn't call myself a bobbin maker. Neither was Alan, his forte was to write on the social history of lacemakers, both in England and Ireland in the late C19th. My contribution has to do a little designing and write a few teaching booklets. May, I thank Jenny for compiling the list and I promise, one day to scan in some of the bobbins I have as examples. So, it's back to the pillow and get ready for our OIDFA get-together day tomorrow. Guess what's on the agenda, as well as reports on Tokyo - CAEN 2012. Sheila dry Sawbo' until tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers and decorators
Hi Jenny Thanks for that list - a couple of small corrections. Acorn Bobbins is the trading name of Eric Sutton Winslow Bobbins is the trading name of Dennis SIzeland, now retired, the turning is now done by son-in-law Steve Smith Brenda On 2 Oct 2010, at 14:13, Jenny Brandis wrote: Both the Bobbin Makers and the Bobbin Decorators files are small and in PDF format (can be opened and read with the free Adobe Acrobat Reader) and they can be found on my website here Sorry folks, I forgot that Arachne strips out hyperlinks :-) Here is the web address again http://www.brandis.com.au/arachne/bobbins/bobbins.html Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] RE: bobbin makers
Yes, Jenny, I think it would be a very informative tool for our inventories! My daughters have asked me to do an inventory of my lace 'stuff' so they will know how to dispose of it at a later date. I am using the scanner and photos to do it. Now I need to get my books inventoried. Just a reminder this is also a good thing to do for insurance reasons, for this you also need the year you purchased the item. And hope we never need it for that purpose. Lorri From: je...@brandis.com.au To: bobbil...@juno.com; clayblackw...@comcast.net CC: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] RE: bobbin makers Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 08:21:47 +0800 Hello List, I am compiling this thread into a spreadsheet broken into turners and decorators to give a more complete single list - would you like me to put it online once it is 'done'? Jenny B Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers and decorators
A Archer was Anthony - Tony. The late Ken Smith of Wellingborough, Northants made wonderful Tunbridge ware type bobbins with dozons of tiny pieces of different woods and laminates. John Cummins daughters name was Sian. Martin Laundon in Northamptonshire made lovely brass bobbins and some wood with brass head and tail. I remember John Jennifer Ford received a design award for their bobbins. Diana in Northants - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbin makers list
Hi Jenny Thank you so much for all your hard work compiling the lists. You have now spurred me on to do something which I´ve been meaning to do for ages - Settle down and catalogue and photograph all my bobbins. As soon as I get a few done I'll let you have the scans or photos, whichever come out best! I'm sure the lists and photos will prove very useful in the future. Thanks again for all your hard work Pam in sunny southern Spain - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] bobbin turner - Canada
We can add the late Mr. Le Grande, Vancouver BC, who turned many many bobbins of the same midlands style for sale to lacemakers in the BC Lace Clubs of the time - c. 1970 through 1990 maybe? Perhaps someone from the area could refine the information. I've forgotten his first name. The bobbins are distinctive in shape, multipurpose. I learned BL with some, then had my first lessons in Honiton with them, unspangled. (admittedly I soon found the real Honiton bobbins were much better). I still use those I bought for lace lessons back in 1987. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin turner - Canada
Hi All, One more from Canada. Sid Rose from Edmonton, AB, turned bobbins, not as finely finished as some others but good, useable bobbins. I used to send him the bobbin blanks of various woods and he would turn them in the style I requested and send them back. One time I sent him some slightly thinner cocobolo blanks and he sent them back with a note mentioning how stressful it had been to turn these ones as he was afraid of breaking the bobbins. I felt quite badly as I hadn't realized that the small difference in the size of blanks would cause so much grief, and I really treasure those ones. He retired several years ago. I think his wife would paint some of his continental bobbins and send them to Belgium? to a supplier every year. Maybe someone else knows the details about that. Cindy Rusak - in Bracebridge, ON where it has turned from sunny to cloudy and dull - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin turner - Canada
Thanks Cindy - I knew of him but could not recall the name. Yes his wife would paint bobbins. Their daughter, Gladys Love, was early on an editor of Canadian Lacemaker Gazette :) On 10/2/10, Cindy Rusak cru...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, One more from Canada. Sid Rose from Edmonton, AB, turned bobbins, -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin makers
Hi All, I have been rootling through some of my favourite bobbins, and I have several on one of my current pillows made by Pauline Denmark's husband - they are so lovely, most of the ones I have are spliced with different colours (and what a job it was to find *just* the right beads to spangle them!) and are so slender and good to handle - and to look at! I am also hard-pushed not to spend the enture housekeeping (and more ...) on Malcolm Fowler's wonderful, slender glass bobbins. He fills them and decorates them with the most exquisite beads, lace, etc., and even made me some with my grand children's baby hair in, as well as an extra special, fatter pair with some baby teeth inside. Not to everyone's taste, those latter, but I love them! They are made of Pyrex glass, I think, so are also very hardwearing. Back to the pillow, to find some more Carol - in Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant uspeace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Roberta S Donnelly bobbil...@juno.com Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin makers - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] canadian bobbinmaker
Hello Here is the name or another very good Canadian bobbin maker. André Moulin is very careful with his work and what is most pleasant is that you can design your own models or give specific instructions and he will make them. Louise Cossette - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Cartoon bobbins and copyright
Sherry, Your painted bobbins are beautiful. Wish I had that kind of talent. I guess it is each to their own. Pity you don't sell them (except the copyrighted ones, of course.) I don't mind if people use my patterns to make lace they show, or even sell. I am happy if I created something that others can enjoy. Feel free to share any patterns of mine with other lacemakers, after all, most of mine are simple and ideal for beginners. Janice But really the cartoon bobbins were for me...they weren't sold and I have had pictures of those bobbins on my website for almost 10 years. Wind To Thy Wings, sherrycelticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin turner - Canada
bev walker wrote We can add the late Mr. Le Grande, Vancouver BC, who turned many many bobbins of the same midlands style for sale to lacemakers in the BC Lace Clubs of the time - c. 1970 through 1990 maybe? I bought lots of Mr. Le Grande's bobbins when I first started they were quite inexpensive as well as being quite big. I wanted some smaller ones, so I asked him if he could turn me some smaller ones. In due course 6 pairs arrived the bottom more like a Honiton bobbin - quite pointed, but not drilled for spangles. He wrote that they had all been made out of one piece of lignum vitae. The colour ranges from black to pale yellow, some are multi-coloured. I started to drill holes using a little drill bit in a pin-vice (I didn't have a drill that would hold the tiny bits in those days). Boy, is that wood hard!! I later learned that it is supposedly one of the few woods that is so heavy/dense that it won't float. I can attest to its hardness. I believe that Mr. Le Grande's wife was one of the founding members of a BC lace group and only died within the last few years. Malvary in Ottawa who has just returned from the funeral of one of our lacemakers, Joyce Granger, who came to Canada from Nottingham to be near her daughter. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Frankie Anderson
I have to unfortunately post that Frankie Anderson who was a member of Sawbridgeworth Lacemakers, and it's Chairman for a number of years ,died on Monday night. She was also Lace Guild Treasurer in the 1980s. Frankie was diagonosed with cancer in late July, but it had already spread too far for treatment to have any effect. Sheila Brown - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Copyright
Hi Arachnids I am surprised that any pattern designer who is so protective of her patterns that she will not allow lacemakers to show others lace they have made on her patterns even contemplates passing on her patterns, let alone publishes them. I think we all pass on the occasional pattern and one request I have is that you always write the source of the pattern on it when you pass it on, then if the person receiving the pattern enjoys making the lace she may purchase the book at some time. My real problem is when someone copies one of my patterns and sells it, and I know that at least one of my patterns was pirated by a supplier. Keep lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers and decorators
Well then... the website Bobbi proposed a few days ago and that I promised yesterday, and sealed the deal for today will not be necessary. Take it away, Jenny! You have far more time and energy for this that I probably do... Clay On 10/2/2010 9:03 AM, Jenny Brandis wrote: The last few days we have been chatting about the different makers and decorators of lace bobbins, this has been compiled into two lists and is definitely not to be considered the complete list as I am sure each of us can think of more to add to the list. Both the Bobbin Makers and the Bobbin Decorators files are small and in PDF format (can be opened and read with the free Adobe Acrobat Reader) and they can be found on my website here The list is sorted on the surname then the first name of the maker/decorator. The maker/decorator may be listed more than once if information about them was provided more than once. Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Copyright etc.
I was pleasantly surprised at the recent IOLI convention at Portland, that in the lesson I had with Elena Dickson, she was quite happy for us to photocopy pages from her books, if it was for ourselves, so that we could just take the necessary pages out with us, and not lug the whole book around. In fact I think she said she does that, herself, and suggested it was a good way to go if taking the Knotted lace out and about with us. We discussed the difficulty of getting the books to lie flat in a Photocopier, when they are the soft cover books! A Common Sense Aussie!! :) Seriously, I think we have to be aware of copyright, but not go overboard and get too tied in knots with it. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where spring has sprung, today, - as Daylight Saving has kicked in for the summer! lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
