Re: [lace] picot problems/picots on headside trails
In the picot discussion, the address used has changed to the lace@dont.panix one! Picots are a subject that may be looked up in the future. Especially, by beginner lacemakers. Please remember that panix messages do not go to our archives. Someone who wrote after Alex Stillwell's note of May 28 (which is correctly addressed): a reminder that If your computer is automatically addressing mail, this needs attention. Subsequent correspondents often just hit reply (normal), and it has carried on for a few days. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] picot problems
Hi Susan and Lyn You mentioned that the problem was the right side picots and, as Lyn passed on, adding the extra twists helps. While drawing out diagrams for making picots I discovered that, when the threads go round the picot pin on the left side of the lace, the number of twists is increased by one and if you originally made five twists you now have six. When you make the picot on the right side the number of twists around the picot pin is decreased by one and if you originally made five twists you now have only four. So if you wish to have the same number of twists around the picot pins on the right then make two more twists on this side and if you make seven twists you now have six, the same number as when you make five twists on the left side. Sounds complicated? Donât worry, ignore the theory, enjoy making lace Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] picot problems
Hello Alex. Thank you for your explanation of the number of twists in a double picot. I have often been asked why there are 5 or 7 or even 9 twists on a picot but could never give a definitive answer. Now I understand! Whoohoo! I have printed it out so that I can experiment now and next time I am asked I can give a well informed answer. There is always something new to learn about making lace. Janis in South Africa Where winter has not quite arrived yet. On 2015/05/28 08:21 AM, Alex Stillwell wrote: You mentioned that the problem was the right side picots and, as Lyn passed on, adding the extra twists helps. While drawing out diagrams for making picots I discovered that, when the threads go round the picot pin on the left side of the lace, the number of twists is increased by one and if you originally made five twists you now have six. When you make the picot on the right side the number of twists around the picot pin is decreased by one and if you originally made five twists you now have only four. So if you wish to have the same number of twists around the picot pins on the right then make two more twists on this side and if you make seven twists you now have six, the same number as when you make five twists on the left side. Sounds complicated? Don’t worry, ignore the theory, enjoy making lace Alex -- Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place, P O Box 2126, Honeydew, 2040, South Africa www.thelaceplace.co.za blog: a lacemakers blog - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
On 25 May 2015, at 19:58, Susan hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? Susan, Working a twisted picot: 1. Take pin from outside under outer thread of twisted pair, bring point of pin towards you and out to the side over the thread, place pin (this can be somewhere in the pillow at a distance from the pattern). 2. Check that the thread to the bobbin is on the underside of the loop round the pin. 3. Bring other thread of pair below and round the back of the pin to lie beside other thread. (For left-hand picots this will be clockwise, for right-hand picots anti-clockwise.) 4. Check that the threads coming away from the pin are one below and one above the threads going to the pin. (The diagram on kloskant week 45 shows this for a picot on the right-hand side of the lace.) This is necessary so that when you tension the twists stay together and end up around the pin. 5. If you’ve placed the pin away from the pricking you can now move it carefully into its pinhole. (Placing the pin away from the pricking initially and then moving it into place is a trick I was shown any years ago.) I suggest trying this to both right and left with a pair wound with thick thread so you can really see what’s happening. Jean in Glasgow where the sun is still shining - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Picot problems
Hello All! Today is Memorial Day in the U.S., so if you aren't busy with brats brews, hope you are enjoying our freedoms making some lace! Yesterday, I worked on lace for the first time since Christmas. Yes, hanging my head in shame. My only defense is that my needlepoint shoe project is done, done, done! I started with that cute little edging from www.kloskant.com, week 45, 2014. Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? As to thread, I didn't have DMC so used Anchor. Many thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA! USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
Dear Susan, Happy Memorial Day to you. btw, those shoes are gorgeous. Picots can be tricky little guys. I finally began to make satisfactory ones after a class on Bucks with Alex Stillwell. She said 7 twists, and then the secret, which is to have absolutely no tension on either thread until you are ready to tension at the end. That seemed to do the trick, and eliminated almost all bunny ears. Susan wrote: Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? As to thread, I didn't have DMC so used Anchor. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it is almost perfect weather for the first grilling of the season. I just found out that this is the day Americans wear poppies. This is the day we remember our war dead. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
Susan, when making a picot, leave the first thread around the pin a little loose and then wrap the second thread around the pin. Tighten both threads against the pin at the same time. This ensures that the picots don't split. Tightening the first thread before the second thread is in position is what causes the two separate loops (known as split picots). Ruth Budge (Sydney Australia) On 26 May 2015, at 4:58 am, Susan hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Picots I have a rocky relationship yesterday was more of the same. What could be causing my failure to launch?? Armed with Practical Skills, I used five twists to make a right handed twisted picot. Several repeats later, out come the pins voila, two loops at each picot! Somehow they are not locking themselves together as shown in the diagrams. Before I aggravate myself with another strip, could someone lend a hand with advice? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Picot problems
What helped me finally get my picots right was learning to put them round the pin in the correct direction. Left hand picots both threads go clockwise. Right hand picot both threads go counterclockwise. And I agree, no tension until it pulls up to the pin. I know you probably already know this, so please forgive if it sounds too elementary. Jean Reardon, Mercer Pa - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
