Re: Bravura in LilyPond
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote: [...] I would suggest to update it in openLilyLib as it is an emerging repository of snippets and tools for LilyPond and lilyJAZZ is also planned to be included, so they would be in one place. Alrighty then, I've marked the original repo as deprecated. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
No tremolo to end
I'm working on an extremely large project, and I've come across an error that I
can't reproduce in a minimal example, so I'll try to describe it as best I can.
When I compile a file containing this code,
\version 2.17.97
one = \relative c''' {
\time 3/8
\key f \minor
\repeat tremolo 3 { d16\ff( cis) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { d16( cis) } | }
}
two = \relative c'' {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16\ff( g) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
}
\partcombine \one \two
the output appears as it should, but I get this error.
warning: No tremolo to end
\repeat unfold 11 {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
If I change both unfolds to percents, the excerpt compiles error-free.
Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this?
DR
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Re: No tremolo to end
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
I'm working on an extremely large project, and I've come across an error that
I can't reproduce in a minimal example, so I'll try to describe it as best I
can. When I compile a file containing this code,
\version 2.17.97
one = \relative c''' {
\time 3/8
\key f \minor
\repeat tremolo 3 { d16\ff( cis) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { d16( cis) } | }
}
two = \relative c'' {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16\ff( g) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
}
\partcombine \one \two
the output appears as it should, but I get this error.
warning: No tremolo to end
\repeat unfold 11 {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
If I change both unfolds to percents, the excerpt compiles error-free.
Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this?
My bet is on
In all but the simplest works it is advisable to create explicit
‘Voice’ contexts as explained in *note (lilypond-learning)Contexts and
engravers:: and *note (lilypond-learning)Explicitly instantiating
voices::.
--
David Kastrup
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Re: new user problem
Molly Preston wrote I have been learning Lilypond over the past few weeks. I am entering a song with piano that I wrote. Even though I am using the template for this I keep getting fatal errors. It'll work for a while and then when I add more notes I get a fatal error. I get syntax errors, barcheck errors, unexpected string (these actually happen in the \score section which is directly from the template). I have actually made it work/display properly past these problems. However, I tried to change the text = \lyricmode tag to experiment. And then it didn't work; so I went back to how the template is written and now its just showing two lines one staff and no music. Any thoughts on this? -Molly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi Molly, If you could please upload the file, we could get a better idea of how to fix the errors you're seeing w/ your score. Thanks! Welcome to LilyPond! :) Ben - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/new-user-problem-tp156669p156679.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Re: new user problem
I didn't notice she sent this privately ...
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: Molly Preston mollypresto...@gmail.com
Gesendet: Mon Dec 30 00:57:00 MEZ 2013
An: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
Betreff: Re: new user problem
Hi Urs,
Not sure if you want this as an attachment so I'm sending it both ways.
\version 2.16.2
melody = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r4 r4 r4 r8 f8 | f4. f8 g4 g8 e8~ |
e4 f4 f4 r4 | r2 r4 r8 b8 | d4 d8 f4 fis4 e8~ | e4. d8 cis2 |
r2 r4 r8 a8 | a4. a8 b4. a8 | g'4. g8 g4 fis4 | r2 r4 r8 b,8 | c4 b a e |
e4. e8 ais,4 r4 | r2 r4 b'4 | b8 ais4. d4 d4 | \time 5/4
e16 e16 a8\glissando (b,4) r4 r4 r4 | \time 4/4 r8 a8 a8 b8 g4. e'8 | d8
d8 gis,2. |
r2 r8 d8 d8 d8 | f4 r8 f f f ees4 | r4 r8 cis'8 cis4 cis8 cis8 ~
| cis8\glissando ( ais8) r4 r8 a8\staccato a4\staccato
| ais8 \staccato \accent g4 \staccato \accent r8 r2
| r2 r8 f'8 f8 f8 | gis4. r8 r2
| r2 r8 e8 e a, | bes4 r4 r2 | r4 d4 d4 d8 [( e8 )] | f4 r4 r8 e,8 e e
| dis4 r4 r2 | r1 | r1 | r1
| r2 f4. f8 | g8 f8 f4 e8 e4 e8 | \time 6/4 ais2 r2 r4 f8 f8
| \time 4/4 f4 f8 f4 r8 r8 f8 | e4 r4 r2 | r2 fis4. fis8 |
| a4. a8 gis4. gis8 | g8 g4 r8 r2 | r2 r4 r8 ees8
| ees4. ees8 ges4. ges8 f4. f8 aes8 aes8 ~ aes4 |( a4 ) r4 d8 d r4
}
text = \lyricmode {
Nür | für mich bist du am_ | Le -- ben
Ich | steck dir Or -- den ins__ | Ge -- sicht
Du | bist mir ganz und | gar er -- ge -- ben
Du | liebst mich denn ich | liebst dich nicht |
Du | blut -- est für mein | See -- len -- heil |
Ein klei -- ner Schnitt und | du wirst geil |
Der Kör -- per | schon to -- tal en -- stellt |
E -- gal er -- laubt__ | ist was |
ge -- fallt |
Ich tu dir | Weh
Tut mir nicht | leid | Das tut dir__ gut | Hör wie es schreit
Bei dir | ha -- be ich die Wahl der | Qual Stach el
| draht in Harn ka | nal | Leg dein | Fleisch in Salz und |
Ei -- ter | Erst | stirbst du doch dann | lebst du wei -- ter__
| Bit -- te
}
upper = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r2 r4 r8 cis e gis bes ~ | cis e gis bes 4 r4 r2
| r2 r8 cis e gis bes 4.~
| cis e gis bes4 r4 r4 r8 cis e gis bes8 ~
| cis e gis bes 4 r4 r4 r4 | r1 | d f a2 e f2
|\clef bass { r2 r8 fis,8 fis8 fis8 }
| r8 fis8 fis8 fis8 r8 fis8 fis4
| r8 fis8 fis8 f8 r8 fis8 fis8 f8 | r8 fis8 fis8 g8 r8 fis8 fis8
g8 | r8 f8 f8 gis8 r8 f8 f8 gis8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | \clef treble r8 c e a 8 c e a 8 d
f a 8 r8 bes e g8 bes e g b dis fis | \clef bass r8 e,8 e8
e8 r8 e g 8 e g 8 e g 8 | \clef treble d'8 d8 gis,8 gis8 gis8 r8
r4
| \clef bass r8 f8 f8 g8 r8 d8 d8 bes'8 | r8 d,8 d8 bes'8 r8 d,8 d8
bes'8 | \time 5/4 aes8 g8 ~ g4 e8 e8 \clef treble r8 c'' e 8 c e 8
b d 8
| r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8 d f 8 d f 8 c e 8 |
c fis 4 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 f4
| b, ees 2 g e' 4 r4
| e g 8 e g 8 e bes' 4 r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8
| r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8 r8 a c 8 a c 8 gis b 8 ~
| gis b 4 r4 r8 e g bes 8 e g bes 4 | d fis ais 8 d g bes
4 a'8 \prall g2 | d f a bes 2.\arpeggio r8 f32 aes32 f16
| e4 r8 a32 bes32 a16 g4 cis8 e g 8
| f aes 4. \tenuto e,32 cis32 e16 g4 g bes e 8 a b f' 8
| cis, e g bes 4. gis'32 a32 gis16 ~ dis gis b 2
| r8 d fis b 8 d fis b 8 d f aes 8 \tenuto r8 cis e g 8
cis e g 8 d e a 8 ~
| d e a 8 a'32 bes32 a16 f8 a f a f a
| dis,8 a' dis, a' f a f a
| f8 a f a f a f a
| f a f a f a f a
| r2 d, f 2
| f a 4 r4 r2 |
\time 6/4 r2. { s4 r8 g8 a8 a } \\ { e bes' 2. } |
\time 4/4 b'4 r4 f a 4 r4
| g bes 4 r4 r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 g des' 8
| \clef bass r8 fis,16 fis16 e8 fis8 r8 fis16 fis16 e8 fis8
| r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8 r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8
| r8 g b 8 f a cis 4 r8 g b 8 a cis fis 4
| r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 fis a 8 r8 g b 8 g bes ees 4
| \clef treble r8 ees aes 8 ees' aes 4
r8 g, bes ees 8 ees' g bes 4
| r8 aes, c f 8 c f aes 8 c f aes 8
r8 f aes c 8 ( aes c f 8 aes c f 8
| a d f a 8 a d f a 8) a d f a 8 a d f a 8 r2
|
}
lower = \relative b {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
\repeat tremolo 16 { b,,32 b'32 }
| \repeat tremolo 8 { b,32 b'32 } b4
| \repeat tremolo 4 { b,32 b'32 }
| \repeat tremolo 8 { b,32 b'32 } b,4 r4
| r4 \repeat tremolo 12 { b32 b'32 }
| r2 \repeat tremolo 8 { b,32 b'32 }
| \repeat tremolo 4 { b,32 b'32 } { b,8 [b'8] b,8 [b'8] b,8 [b'8] }
| \repeat tremolo 12 { b,32 b'32 } b4
| b4 r4 b4 r4 | b4 r4 b4 r4 | b2 b2 | b2 f2 | g2 e2
| a2 a | a2 g2 | g2 g2 | e2 e | d'2 g,8 d'8 d8 d |
| \repeat tremolo 8 { g,,32 g'32 } r4 d4 | \repeat tremolo 16 { g,32
g'32} | \time 5/4 f2. e2 |
RE: No tremolo to end
-Original Message-
From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 4:57 AM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: No tremolo to end
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes:
I'm working on an extremely large project, and I've come across an
error that I can't reproduce in a minimal example, so I'll try to
describe it as best I can. When I compile a file containing this code,
\version 2.17.97
one = \relative c''' {
\time 3/8
\key f \minor
\repeat tremolo 3 { d16\ff( cis) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { d16( cis) } | }
}
two = \relative c'' {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16\ff( g) } |
\repeat unfold 11 { \repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
}
\partcombine \one \two
the output appears as it should, but I get this error.
warning: No tremolo to end
\repeat unfold 11 {
\repeat tremolo 3 { f16( g) } | }
If I change both unfolds to percents, the excerpt compiles error-free.
Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this?
My bet is on
In all but the simplest works it is advisable to create explicit ‘Voice’
contexts
as explained in *note (lilypond-learning)Contexts and
engravers:: and *note (lilypond-learning)Explicitly instantiating voices::.
--
David Kastrup
David,
Do you mean instead of using \partcombine?
DR
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Re: new user problem
Hi Molly,
I don't have a LilyPond equipped computer right now, so I can't really
investigate.
But you should definitely get a habit of better layout of your input.
A good suggestion is for example to always start a new line for a measure.
You may make exceptions with things like a number of r1 measures, but
in general this will make your code _much_ more readable.
It will make it much easier for us to spot problems, and often it will
make them abvious to yourself ;-)
Urs
Zitat von Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
I didn't notice she sent this privately ...
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: Molly Preston mollypresto...@gmail.com
Gesendet: Mon Dec 30 00:57:00 MEZ 2013
An: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
Betreff: Re: new user problem
Hi Urs,
Not sure if you want this as an attachment so I'm sending it both ways.
\version 2.16.2
melody = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r4 r4 r4 r8 f8 | f4. f8 g4 g8 e8~ |
e4 f4 f4 r4 | r2 r4 r8 b8 | d4 d8 f4 fis4 e8~ | e4. d8 cis2 |
r2 r4 r8 a8 | a4. a8 b4. a8 | g'4. g8 g4 fis4 | r2 r4 r8 b,8 | c4 b a e |
e4. e8 ais,4 r4 | r2 r4 b'4 | b8 ais4. d4 d4 | \time 5/4
e16 e16 a8\glissando (b,4) r4 r4 r4 | \time 4/4 r8 a8 a8 b8 g4. e'8 | d8
d8 gis,2. |
r2 r8 d8 d8 d8 | f4 r8 f f f ees4 | r4 r8 cis'8 cis4 cis8 cis8 ~
| cis8\glissando ( ais8) r4 r8 a8\staccato a4\staccato
| ais8 \staccato \accent g4 \staccato \accent r8 r2
| r2 r8 f'8 f8 f8 | gis4. r8 r2
| r2 r8 e8 e a, | bes4 r4 r2 | r4 d4 d4 d8 [( e8 )] | f4 r4 r8 e,8 e e
| dis4 r4 r2 | r1 | r1 | r1
| r2 f4. f8 | g8 f8 f4 e8 e4 e8 | \time 6/4 ais2 r2 r4 f8 f8
| \time 4/4 f4 f8 f4 r8 r8 f8 | e4 r4 r2 | r2 fis4. fis8 |
| a4. a8 gis4. gis8 | g8 g4 r8 r2 | r2 r4 r8 ees8
| ees4. ees8 ges4. ges8 f4. f8 aes8 aes8 ~ aes4 |( a4 ) r4 d8 d r4
}
text = \lyricmode {
Nür | für mich bist du am_ | Le -- ben
Ich | steck dir Or -- den ins__ | Ge -- sicht
Du | bist mir ganz und | gar er -- ge -- ben
Du | liebst mich denn ich | liebst dich nicht |
Du | blut -- est für mein | See -- len -- heil |
Ein klei -- ner Schnitt und | du wirst geil |
Der Kör -- per | schon to -- tal en -- stellt |
E -- gal er -- laubt__ | ist was |
ge -- fallt |
Ich tu dir | Weh
Tut mir nicht | leid | Das tut dir__ gut | Hör wie es schreit
Bei dir | ha -- be ich die Wahl der | Qual Stach el
| draht in Harn ka | nal | Leg dein | Fleisch in Salz und |
Ei -- ter | Erst | stirbst du doch dann | lebst du wei -- ter__
| Bit -- te
}
upper = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r2 r4 r8 cis e gis bes ~ | cis e gis bes 4 r4 r2
| r2 r8 cis e gis bes 4.~
| cis e gis bes4 r4 r4 r8 cis e gis bes8 ~
| cis e gis bes 4 r4 r4 r4 | r1 | d f a2 e f2
|\clef bass { r2 r8 fis,8 fis8 fis8 }
| r8 fis8 fis8 fis8 r8 fis8 fis4
| r8 fis8 fis8 f8 r8 fis8 fis8 f8 | r8 fis8 fis8 g8 r8 fis8 fis8
g8 | r8 f8 f8 gis8 r8 f8 f8 gis8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | \clef treble r8 c e a 8 c e a 8 d
f a 8 r8 bes e g8 bes e g b dis fis | \clef bass r8 e,8 e8
e8 r8 e g 8 e g 8 e g 8 | \clef treble d'8 d8 gis,8 gis8 gis8 r8
r4
| \clef bass r8 f8 f8 g8 r8 d8 d8 bes'8 | r8 d,8 d8 bes'8 r8 d,8 d8
bes'8 | \time 5/4 aes8 g8 ~ g4 e8 e8 \clef treble r8 c'' e 8 c e 8
b d 8
| r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8 d f 8 d f 8 c e 8 |
c fis 4 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 f4
| b, ees 2 g e' 4 r4
| e g 8 e g 8 e bes' 4 r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8
| r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8 r8 a c 8 a c 8 gis b 8 ~
| gis b 4 r4 r8 e g bes 8 e g bes 4 | d fis ais 8 d g bes
4 a'8 \prall g2 | d f a bes 2.\arpeggio r8 f32 aes32 f16
| e4 r8 a32 bes32 a16 g4 cis8 e g 8
| f aes 4. \tenuto e,32 cis32 e16 g4 g bes e 8 a b f' 8
| cis, e g bes 4. gis'32 a32 gis16 ~ dis gis b 2
| r8 d fis b 8 d fis b 8 d f aes 8 \tenuto r8 cis e g 8
cis e g 8 d e a 8 ~
| d e a 8 a'32 bes32 a16 f8 a f a f a
| dis,8 a' dis, a' f a f a
| f8 a f a f a f a
| f a f a f a f a
| r2 d, f 2
| f a 4 r4 r2 |
\time 6/4 r2. { s4 r8 g8 a8 a } \\ { e bes' 2. } |
\time 4/4 b'4 r4 f a 4 r4
| g bes 4 r4 r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 g des' 8
| \clef bass r8 fis,16 fis16 e8 fis8 r8 fis16 fis16 e8 fis8
| r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8 r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8
| r8 g b 8 f a cis 4 r8 g b 8 a cis fis 4
| r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 fis a 8 r8 g b 8 g bes ees 4
| \clef treble r8 ees aes 8 ees' aes 4
r8 g, bes ees 8 ees' g bes 4
| r8 aes, c f 8 c f aes 8 c f aes 8
r8 f aes c 8 ( aes c f 8 aes c f 8
| a d f a 8 a d f a 8) a d f a 8 a d f a 8 r2
|
}
lower = \relative b {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
\repeat tremolo 16 { b,,32 b'32 }
|
Re: Re: new user problem
Hi Molly
There were a couple of errors that prevented compilation:
Line 23: barcheck before slur opening bracket
Line 141: missing closing angle bracket
Having fixed those lots of barchecks remain, but you're best able to
correct them.
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:46 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: new user problem
I didn't notice she sent this privately ...
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: Molly Preston mollypresto...@gmail.com
Gesendet: Mon Dec 30 00:57:00 MEZ 2013
An: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
Betreff: Re: new user problem
Hi Urs,
Not sure if you want this as an attachment so I'm sending it both ways.
\version 2.16.2
melody = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r1 | r4 r4 r4 r8 f8 | f4. f8 g4 g8 e8~ |
e4 f4 f4 r4 | r2 r4 r8 b8 | d4 d8 f4 fis4 e8~ | e4. d8 cis2 |
r2 r4 r8 a8 | a4. a8 b4. a8 | g'4. g8 g4 fis4 | r2 r4 r8 b,8 | c4 b a e |
e4. e8 ais,4 r4 | r2 r4 b'4 | b8 ais4. d4 d4 | \time 5/4
e16 e16 a8\glissando (b,4) r4 r4 r4 | \time 4/4 r8 a8 a8 b8 g4. e'8 | d8
d8 gis,2. |
r2 r8 d8 d8 d8 | f4 r8 f f f ees4 | r4 r8 cis'8 cis4 cis8 cis8 ~
| cis8\glissando ( ais8) r4 r8 a8\staccato a4\staccato
| ais8 \staccato \accent g4 \staccato \accent r8 r2
| r2 r8 f'8 f8 f8 | gis4. r8 r2
| r2 r8 e8 e a, | bes4 r4 r2 | r4 d4 d4 d8 [( e8 )] | f4 r4 r8 e,8 e e
| dis4 r4 r2 | r1 | r1 | r1
| r2 f4. f8 | g8 f8 f4 e8 e4 e8 | \time 6/4 ais2 r2 r4 f8 f8
| \time 4/4 f4 f8 f4 r8 r8 f8 | e4 r4 r2 | r2 fis4. fis8 |
| a4. a8 gis4. gis8 | g8 g4 r8 r2 | r2 r4 r8 ees8
| ees4. ees8 ges4. ges8 f4. f8 aes8 aes8 ~ aes4 |( a4 ) r4 d8 d r4
}
text = \lyricmode {
Nür | für mich bist du am_ | Le -- ben
Ich | steck dir Or -- den ins__ | Ge -- sicht
Du | bist mir ganz und | gar er -- ge -- ben
Du | liebst mich denn ich | liebst dich nicht |
Du | blut -- est für mein | See -- len -- heil |
Ein klei -- ner Schnitt und | du wirst geil |
Der Kör -- per | schon to -- tal en -- stellt |
E -- gal er -- laubt__ | ist was |
ge -- fallt |
Ich tu dir | Weh
Tut mir nicht | leid | Das tut dir__ gut | Hör wie es schreit
Bei dir | ha -- be ich die Wahl der | Qual Stach el
| draht in Harn ka | nal | Leg dein | Fleisch in Salz und |
Ei -- ter | Erst | stirbst du doch dann | lebst du wei -- ter__
| Bit -- te
}
upper = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
r2 r4 r8 cis e gis bes ~ | cis e gis bes 4 r4 r2
| r2 r8 cis e gis bes 4.~
| cis e gis bes4 r4 r4 r8 cis e gis bes8 ~
| cis e gis bes 4 r4 r4 r4 | r1 | d f a2 e f2
|\clef bass { r2 r8 fis,8 fis8 fis8 }
| r8 fis8 fis8 fis8 r8 fis8 fis4
| r8 fis8 fis8 f8 r8 fis8 fis8 f8 | r8 fis8 fis8 g8 r8 fis8 fis8
g8 | r8 f8 f8 gis8 r8 f8 f8 gis8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8
c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 | \clef treble r8 c e a 8 c e a 8 d
f a 8 r8 bes e g8 bes e g b dis fis | \clef bass r8 e,8 e8
e8 r8 e g 8 e g 8 e g 8 | \clef treble d'8 d8 gis,8 gis8 gis8 r8
r4
| \clef bass r8 f8 f8 g8 r8 d8 d8 bes'8 | r8 d,8 d8 bes'8 r8 d,8 d8
bes'8 | \time 5/4 aes8 g8 ~ g4 e8 e8 \clef treble r8 c'' e 8 c e 8
b d 8
| r8 c e 8 c e 8 b d 8 r8 d f 8 d f 8 c e 8 |
c fis 4 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 c e 8 f4
| b, ees 2 g e' 4 r4
| e g 8 e g 8 e bes' 4 r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8
| r8 f a 8 f a 8 g bes 8 r8 a c 8 a c 8 gis b 8 ~
| gis b 4 r4 r8 e g bes 8 e g bes 4 | d fis ais 8 d g bes
4 a'8 \prall g2 | d f a bes 2.\arpeggio r8 f32 aes32 f16
| e4 r8 a32 bes32 a16 g4 cis8 e g 8
| f aes 4. \tenuto e,32 cis32 e16 g4 g bes e 8 a b f' 8
| cis, e g bes 4. gis'32 a32 gis16 ~ dis gis b 2
| r8 d fis b 8 d fis b 8 d f aes 8 \tenuto r8 cis e g 8
cis e g 8 d e a 8 ~
| d e a 8 a'32 bes32 a16 f8 a f a f a
| dis,8 a' dis, a' f a f a
| f8 a f a f a f a
| f a f a f a f a
| r2 d, f 2
| f a 4 r4 r2 |
\time 6/4 r2. { s4 r8 g8 a8 a } \\ { e bes' 2. } |
\time 4/4 b'4 r4 f a 4 r4
| g bes 4 r4 r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 g des' 8
| \clef bass r8 fis,16 fis16 e8 fis8 r8 fis16 fis16 e8 fis8
| r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8 r8 fis16 fis16 fis8 g8
| r8 g b 8 f a cis 4 r8 g b 8 a cis fis 4
| r8 g bes 8 g bes 8 fis a 8 r8 g b 8 g bes ees 4
| \clef treble r8 ees aes 8 ees' aes 4
r8 g, bes ees 8 ees' g bes 4
| r8 aes, c f 8 c f aes 8 c f aes 8
r8 f aes c 8 ( aes c f 8 aes c f 8
| a d f a 8 a d f a 8) a d f a 8 a d f a 8 r2
|
}
lower = \relative b {
\clef bass
\key c \major
\time 4/4 \numericTimeSignature
\repeat tremolo 16 { b,,32 b'32 }
| \repeat tremolo 8 { b,32 b'32 } b4
| \repeat tremolo 4
Re: new user problem
Urs: But you should definitely get a habit of better layout of your input. A good suggestion is for example to always start a new line for a measure. You may make exceptions with things like a number of r1 measures, but in general this will make your code _much_ more readable. Beeing able to understand lilypond warning/error messages and associate them to what is actually wrong helps a lot. I didn't know you could use bar checks in the lyrics, might be useful. I think I would have replaced thoose initial r1's in the singers voice part with R1*5 (whole measure rests). As usual for code, everyone has their own small layout preferences. I'd say that for a new user her file is pretty impressive, is it that lilypond is easy to learn or is she smart; and by time she will find out what works best for her. Is there any notes about best practicies in the documentation, or is it best to read others files to find solutions to problems. I think I tend to read my old files to see how I did there for a similar problem. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: No tremolo to end
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: I'm working on an extremely large project, and I've come across an error that I can't reproduce in a minimal example, so I'll try to describe it as best I can. When I compile a file containing this code, [...] If I change both unfolds to percents, the excerpt compiles error-free. Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? My bet is on In all but the simplest works it is advisable to create explicit ‘Voice’ contexts as explained in *note (lilypond-learning)Contexts and engravers:: and *note (lilypond-learning)Explicitly instantiating voices::. Do you mean instead of using \partcombine? I have no idea. You don't have an example that shows the problem but only offer some handwaving of what kind of code is involved, and I offered some handwaving of what kind of error it might be. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
punctus perfectionis/divisionis (Machaut)
Do anyone know how to make punctus perfectionis/divisionis in mensural music (in lilypond) other than using hackery ? I'm using the example from: http://turkos.aspodata.se/noter/diamm/ http://diamm.nsms.ox.ac.uk/moodle/ Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re: new user problem
2013/12/30 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
Hi Molly
There were a couple of errors that prevented compilation:
Line 23: barcheck before slur opening bracket
Line 141: missing closing angle bracket
Having fixed those lots of barchecks remain, but you're best able to
correct them.
Molly, did you see the error messages? Which editor are you using?
ichtudirweh_new.ly:23:51: errore: syntax error, unexpected '('
| ees4. ees8 ges4. ges8 f4. f8 aes8 aes8 ~ aes4 |
Most of the LilyPond editors (I recommend Frescobaldi) let you click on the
line:column numbers to jump to the problematic line.
Remember that you can omit the duration of a note if it's the same duration
of the previous.
r8 f8 f8 g8 r8 d8 d8 bes'8
can be written as:
r f f g r d d bes'
cleaner and faster to type
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Re: frescobaldi ERROR
I am glad Frescobaldi works correctly for you now! -- Wilbert Berendsen (www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: No tremolo to end
-Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 6:44 AM To: Daniel Rosen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: No tremolo to end You don't have an example that shows the problem but only offer some handwaving of what kind of code is involved, and I offered some handwaving of what kind of error it might be. Fair enough. I guess I'll have to keep trying to figure out how to isolate the issue. Sigh. DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: point and click in gvim
Il 27/dic/2013 18:34 Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com ha scritto: Dear community, I would like to enable point and click for okular and gvim on my ubuntu-machine. Does someone know, how to do it? Thanks Stefan Have you tried adapting this information to your needs? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/configuring-the-system-for-point-and-click ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Some of you might have seen this on the lilypond-announce list, but I repeat it here since not everybody may read the announce list. The big announcement to all the non-LilyPond lists will happen in a few days if we don't get major complaints. Here it goes: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Among the numerous improvements and changes, the following might be most visible: * Many items are now positioned using their actual outline rather than a rectangular bounding box. This greatly reduces the occurrence of unsightly large gaps. * Sets and overrides can now use a simpler syntax * Triplets with a given group length can now be written using a more user-friendly syntax A full list of noteworthy new features is given in: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/changes/index.html Great thanks go to the large number of LilyPond enthusiasts whose financial backing enabled one core developer, David Kastrup, to focus exclusively on LilyPond during the entire development cycle. LilyPond 2.18 has been brought to you by Main Developers: Bertrand Bordage, Trevor Daniels, Colin Hall, Phil Holmes, Ian Hulin, Reinhold Kainhofer, David Kastrup, Jonathan Kulp, Werner Lemberg, John Mandereau, Patrick McCarty, Joe Neeman, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, Graham Percival, Mark Polesky, Neil Puttock, Mike Solomon, Carl Sorensen, Francisco Vila, Valentin Villenave, Janek Warchol Core Contributors: Aleksandr Andreev, Frédéric Bron, Torsten Hämmerle, Marc Hohl, James Lowe, Andrew Main, Thomas Morley, David Nalesnik, Keith OHara, Benko Pál, Anders Pilegaard, Julien Rioux, Johannes Rohrer, Adam Spiers, Heikki Tauriainen Documentation Writers: Frédéric Bron, Federico Bruni, Colin Campbell, Urs Liska, James Lowe, Thomas Morley, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Guy Stalnaker, Martin Tarenskeen, Arnold Theresius, Rodolfo Zitellini Bug Squad: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Phil Holmes, Marek Klein, Ralph Palmer Support Team: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Marek Klein, Kieren MacMillan, Urs Liska, Ralph Palmer Translators: Federico Bruni, Luca Rossetto Casel, Felipe Castro, Pavel Fric, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Till Paala, Yoshiki Sawada and numerous other contributors. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
David Kastrup wrote Monday, December 30, 2013 4:50 PM We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Congratulations, David! Well done! Thanks for driving this through. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
2013/12/30 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: David Kastrup wrote Monday, December 30, 2013 4:50 PM We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Congratulations, David! Well done! Thanks for driving this through. Trevor Hurra! Great work, David! Many thanks, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
On 30/12/13 17:04, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Monday, December 30, 2013 4:50 PM We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Congratulations, David! Well done! Thanks for driving this through. Trevor Hear! Hear! For he's a jolly good fellow; and so say all of us! \o/ James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, David Kastrup wrote: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Right now I am happily working on my newly installed Fedora 20 desktop, with a new Frescobaldi release and the new LilyPond release ... I am sure I now have a happy New Year waiting for me :-) Thanks to all contributors! -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Congrats, David et al! If I download lilypond-2.18.0-1.linux-x86.sh to my Debian Squeeze box (hoping to make it work there), will that file execute on its own? In any case, will its execution disable/replace my 2.12.3 (already happily running)? Thanks Happy New Year Paranoid P David Kastrup wrote: Some of you might have seen this on the lilypond-announce list, but I repeat it here since not everybody may read the announce list. The big announcement to all the non-LilyPond lists will happen in a few days if we don't get major complaints. Here it goes: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Among the numerous improvements and changes, the following might be most visible: * Many items are now positioned using their actual outline rather than a rectangular bounding box. This greatly reduces the occurrence of unsightly large gaps. * Sets and overrides can now use a simpler syntax * Triplets with a given group length can now be written using a more user-friendly syntax A full list of noteworthy new features is given in: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/changes/index.html Great thanks go to the large number of LilyPond enthusiasts whose financial backing enabled one core developer, David Kastrup, to focus exclusively on LilyPond during the entire development cycle. LilyPond 2.18 has been brought to you by Main Developers: Bertrand Bordage, Trevor Daniels, Colin Hall, Phil Holmes, Ian Hulin, Reinhold Kainhofer, David Kastrup, Jonathan Kulp, Werner Lemberg, John Mandereau, Patrick McCarty, Joe Neeman, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, Graham Percival, Mark Polesky, Neil Puttock, Mike Solomon, Carl Sorensen, Francisco Vila, Valentin Villenave, Janek Warchol Core Contributors: Aleksandr Andreev, Frédéric Bron, Torsten Hämmerle, Marc Hohl, James Lowe, Andrew Main, Thomas Morley, David Nalesnik, Keith OHara, Benko Pál, Anders Pilegaard, Julien Rioux, Johannes Rohrer, Adam Spiers, Heikki Tauriainen Documentation Writers: Frédéric Bron, Federico Bruni, Colin Campbell, Urs Liska, James Lowe, Thomas Morley, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Guy Stalnaker, Martin Tarenskeen, Arnold Theresius, Rodolfo Zitellini Bug Squad: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Phil Holmes, Marek Klein, Ralph Palmer Support Team: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Marek Klein, Kieren MacMillan, Urs Liska, Ralph Palmer Translators: Federico Bruni, Luca Rossetto Casel, Felipe Castro, Pavel Fric, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Till Paala, Yoshiki Sawada and numerous other contributors. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Le 30/12/2013 17:50, David Kastrup disait : We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Thank you David and every contributor! Cheers, Jean-Charles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
PP: As someone who is forever bewildered by Ly's download page (because no where else am I downloading a script instead of an installation module - I live a sheltered life!), allow me to assist: 1. On the unix download page - http://lilypond.org/unix.html - scroll down just a bit and you see install and uninstall instructions. To install - Install In the shell, type: cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY sh lilypond-2.18.0-OS-TYPE.sh I don't think you need to uninstall the previous version, but it wouldn't hurt to do it manually before installing the new one. Tom On 12/30/2013 11:11 AM, PMA wrote: Congrats, David et al! If I download lilypond-2.18.0-1.linux-x86.sh to my Debian Squeeze box (hoping to make it work there), will that file execute on its own? In any case, will its execution disable/replace my 2.12.3 (already happily running)? Thanks Happy New Year Paranoid P David Kastrup wrote: Some of you might have seen this on the lilypond-announce list, but I repeat it here since not everybody may read the announce list. The big announcement to all the non-LilyPond lists will happen in a few days if we don't get major complaints. Here it goes: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Among the numerous improvements and changes, the following might be most visible: * Many items are now positioned using their actual outline rather than a rectangular bounding box. This greatly reduces the occurrence of unsightly large gaps. * Sets and overrides can now use a simpler syntax * Triplets with a given group length can now be written using a more user-friendly syntax A full list of noteworthy new features is given in: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/changes/index.html Great thanks go to the large number of LilyPond enthusiasts whose financial backing enabled one core developer, David Kastrup, to focus exclusively on LilyPond during the entire development cycle. LilyPond 2.18 has been brought to you by Main Developers: Bertrand Bordage, Trevor Daniels, Colin Hall, Phil Holmes, Ian Hulin, Reinhold Kainhofer, David Kastrup, Jonathan Kulp, Werner Lemberg, John Mandereau, Patrick McCarty, Joe Neeman, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, Graham Percival, Mark Polesky, Neil Puttock, Mike Solomon, Carl Sorensen, Francisco Vila, Valentin Villenave, Janek Warchol Core Contributors: Aleksandr Andreev, Frédéric Bron, Torsten Hämmerle, Marc Hohl, James Lowe, Andrew Main, Thomas Morley, David Nalesnik, Keith OHara, Benko Pál, Anders Pilegaard, Julien Rioux, Johannes Rohrer, Adam Spiers, Heikki Tauriainen Documentation Writers: Frédéric Bron, Federico Bruni, Colin Campbell, Urs Liska, James Lowe, Thomas Morley, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Guy Stalnaker, Martin Tarenskeen, Arnold Theresius, Rodolfo Zitellini Bug Squad: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Phil Holmes, Marek Klein, Ralph Palmer Support Team: Colin Campbell, Eluze, Marc Hohl, Marek Klein, Kieren MacMillan, Urs Liska, Ralph Palmer Translators: Federico Bruni, Luca Rossetto Casel, Felipe Castro, Pavel Fric, Jean-Charles Malahieude, Till Paala, Yoshiki Sawada and numerous other contributors. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Am 30.12.2013 17:50, schrieb David Kastrup: [...] We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. These are great news, thanks for your work! All the best, Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: No tremolo to end
Daniel Rosen drosen27 at gmail.com writes: \partcombine \one \two warning: No tremolo to end Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this? Usually this appears when two parts tremolo and one of their notes is a unison, in which case you probably want to tell LilyPond to treat the unison as a chord, with \partcombineChords \partcombineAutomatic Or, when you are taking cues and the cue starts mid-tremolo. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Another time model (related to the usability thread)
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmillan at sympatico.ca writes:
If you insert a bar, you'd have to change R1*32 to R1*33 by hand. Or,
if you
change the 10th out of the 32 bars into a 3/4 measure, I believe you
would
then have to change R1*32 to R1*9 R2. R1*22 -- highly error prone.
\pushToTag was designed (by David K, and paid for in part by a bounty
from me) to solve exactly that problem.
Now all one needs is a function to take skips (e.g., from a global
variable) and turn them into
multi-measure-rests — which is probably relatively easy to do — and
there's no more problem. =)
The \pushToTag function does not insert skips of the correct length.
It inserts existing pieces of music into other music without adjusting
lengths, nor computing any lengths.
It would be helpful for LilyPond to compute rest-lengths for us.
I am playing around with the idea of eventually making R1\until#'coda
repeat itself until LilyPond sees 'coda somewhere in the score.
Here is a toy version, using the existing input R1\tag#'coda
It requires \alignTo \global {..} where \global contains a
sequence with the tags at the desired times.
global = {
\tag #'intro \markintro
\time 4/4 \repeat unfold 5 s1
\bar|| \time 3/4 s4*3*5
\tag #'verse \markverse
\bar|| \time 2/4 s4*2*5
\tag #'bridge \markbridge
\bar|| \time 2/2 s1*5
\tag #'coda \markcoda
\bar|| \time 9/8 s8*9*5
\bar |. }
\relative c'' {
\repeat unfold 65 c4
\repeat unfold 15 c4.
}
\new Staff \global
\new Staff \alignTo \global \transpose c c' {
\repeat unfold 3 b1
R1\tag#'verse
b2 b2
R2\tag#'bridge
c'1
R1\tag#'coda
d'2. d'4. R1 }
%=with this included before the input above=
\version 2.16
% vim: filetype=lilypond:
alignTo = #(define-music-function
(parser location conductor music) (ly:music? ly:music?)
Lengthen any note or rest in the sequence MUSIC just before each tag
that matches a tag in the sequence CONDUCTOR, so that the tags occur
at the same times from to the beginnings of MUSIC and CONDUCTOR.
(define (find-sequence music)
(or (fold-some-music
(lambda (x) (music-is-of-type? x 'sequential-music))
(lambda (x e1) (or e1 ; use the first nonempty sequence
(let ((es (ly:music-property x 'elements)))
(if (null? es) #f es
#f
music)
(begin
(ly:input-warning (ly:music-property music 'origin)
alignTo: cannot find sequential music)
'(
(let loop ((aligner (find-sequence conductor))
(alignee (find-sequence music))
(time-left (ly:music-length conductor)))
(case (length alignee)
((0) music)
((1) (ly:music-set-property! (car alignee) 'duration
(make-duration-of-length time-left))
music)
(else
(let* ((a (first alignee)) ; music that might be lengthened,
(b (second alignee)) ; if this music is tagged
(tag (ly:music-property b 'tags))
(tail (and (not (null? tag))
(find-tail
(lambda (x)
(not (null? (lset-intersection
eq? tag
(ly:music-property x 'tags)
aligner
(if tail
(let ((tail-length (ly:music-length
(make-sequential-music tail
(if (ly:moment? time-left tail-length)
(ly:input-warning (ly:music-property b 'origin)
alignTo: already beyond conductor's tag ~a
(lset-intersection
eq? tag
(ly:music-property (car tail) 'tags)))
(ly:music-set-property!
a 'duration (make-duration-of-length
(ly:moment-sub time-left
tail-length))
(loop (or tail aligner)
(cdr alignee)
(ly:moment-sub time-left
(ly:music-length a
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Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Op Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:50:09 +0100 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schreef: Some of you might have seen this on the lilypond-announce list, but I repeat it here since not everybody may read the announce list. The big announcement to all the non-LilyPond lists will happen in a few days if we don't get major complaints. Here it goes: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Congratulations! What a nice gift at the last minute of 2013! I won't be able to support all the new syntax in Frescobaldi 2.0.13 (which will be released tomorrow) but will follow suit a.s.a.p. best wishes and many thanks, Wilbert -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Thanks a lot, David and all who are involved! Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
how to update manuals in Frescobaldi?
Now that Ly 2.18.0 is out, those of us who use Frescobaldi need to update the manuals it refers to in its Documentation Browser tab. Nowhere can I find instructions for how to do that. In the Preferences modal window it is possible to indicate a path to the documentation, but that documentation comes in multiple forms, so I'm at a fork in the road with no map. What does Frescobaldi need? I'll probably be able to figure it out, but I've been messing with Lilypond for years. Newbies (and often me, too!) need explicit instructions. Secondly, the menu item Help About Frescobaldi Version function display a very nice summary of the versions of various program components/dependencies...with one glaring exception: the Lilypond version it will use on the next compile. It wasn't until I started reading through the Preferences window that I could see that after updating Lilypond to 2.18.0 Frescobaldi automatically knew about the update. Maybe this obscurity could be made less obscure. Beyond that: I've become a Frescobaldi addict. What a lovely piece of genuinely useful software. We are so fortunate to have this fine resource, on top of the marvelous Ly! Profound thanks to all involved Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
arrrgh. manuals download link hard to find...
Updating everything, due to new release of Ly, I'm trying to get the new manuals. Running into an old problem: On the homepage, on the right, in the Quick Links columns, there's a software download link, and link to the manuals. I always assume the manual link will lead also to a download, which it does not. It merely duplicates the link already in the menu at the top of the page. Why give me what I already have? Well, ok - convenience. But... browsing to the manuals page http://lilypond.org/manuals.html, OR the downloads page http://lilypond.org/download.html, my search for a /clearly labeled manuals download link/ yields absolutely nothing. Not helpful. Not all the world lives eternally in connection with the Internet. Some of us NEED to have local versions of everything on our box so we can always work, regardless of situation. WE need a full manual download. If only it could be found Well, it DOES exist, if you are persistent enough in looking: on the manual page, in the Other material section, click the all link. PLEASE - could we not make the manuals download page location a LOT more obvious than this? Just a thought. Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: arrrgh. manuals download link hard to find...
Note at the bottom of the Nanuals page: Manual formats The LilyPond manuals generally come in three formats: split HTML, big HTML and PDF. Split HTML is good for reading online. Big HTML (and some of these can be very big) contains the whole manual in a single page. PDF is available for downloading and using offline. To get to these 3 formats, follow the links that read details of and then the manual name. Each manual has a link in parentheses that says details of [manual name] Click there, and all three formats are available. To your point, not the most obvious, but it is there. Perhaps this explanation should be at the top of the page. Cheers, Carl P. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote: Updating everything, due to new release of Ly, I'm trying to get the new manuals. Running into an old problem: On the homepage, on the right, in the Quick Links columns, there's a software download link, and link to the manuals. I always assume the manual link will lead also to a download, which it does not. It merely duplicates the link already in the menu at the top of the page. Why give me what I already have? Well, ok - convenience. But... browsing to the manuals page, OR the downloads page, my search for a clearly labeled manuals download link yields absolutely nothing. Not helpful. Not all the world lives eternally in connection with the Internet. Some of us NEED to have local versions of everything on our box so we can always work, regardless of situation. WE need a full manual download. If only it could be found Well, it DOES exist, if you are persistent enough in looking: on the manual page, in the Other material section, click the all link. PLEASE - could we not make the manuals download page location a LOT more obvious than this? Just a thought. Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
PDF portfolio of 2.18.0 docs
I have created a fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolio of the 2.18 PDF docs for Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals. The portfolio can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf (55Mb). Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PDF portfolio of 2.18.0 docs
On 31/12/13 07:06, Nick Payne wrote: I have created a fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolio of the 2.18 PDF docs for Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals. The portfolio can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf (55Mb). p.s. I forgot to add - you need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended. I'm not aware of any third party PDF readers that support portfolios properly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Tom Cloyd wrote: PP: As someone who is forever bewildered by Ly's download page (because no where else am I downloading a script instead of an installation module - I live a sheltered life!), allow me to assist: 1. On the unix download page - http://lilypond.org/unix.html - scroll down just a bit and you see install and uninstall instructions. To install - Thanks Tom! On my system the left edge of that page is lopped off a bit. You've shown me that the loss amounts to only two chars -- not, say, nine. So, I'm cool with the text now. Once I create the home dir, move the .sh into there, cd in and run it, will _both_ versions be available: 2.18 via just lilypond (as 2.12 was), and 2.12 via its exec's fullpath? Whatever the invocations, I want to ensure that 2.18 will not disturb 2.12's ability to run (by, say, updating shared intermediate files). Pete ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
upgrade and convert-ly
Hello, Does 2.18 install over the previous version (2.16.2 for me), or must the previous version be uninstalled first? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/usage/invoking-convert_002dl y gives instructions for converting files. My command prompt comes up as C:\users\Owner. Should I then complete it to be C:\users\Owner convert-ly -e *.ly? My Lilypond files are in an external hard driver. Does that require some alternation in the command? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: upgrade and convert-ly
Mark - On 12/30/2013 01:22 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Hello, Does 2.18 install over the previous version (2.16.2 for me), or must the previous version be uninstalled first? I think this REALLY should be made quite clear in the installation instructions. It is a question is one might quite reasonably anticipate. My own experience is that a new install wipes out the old, but this may be an illusion - if all that's happening is a pointer is being redirected to the new install location. PLEASE - SOMEONE CLARIFY THIS, then update the installation instructions at the Ly site so this question is answered right there. Tom http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/usage/invoking-convert_002dly gives instructions for converting files. My command prompt comes up as C:\users\Owner. Should I then complete it to be C:\users\Owner convert-ly --e *.ly? My Lilypond files are in an external hard driver. Does that require some alternation in the command? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: No tremolo to end
-Original Message- From: Keith OHara [mailto:k-ohara5...@oco.net] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 1:56 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: No tremolo to end Usually this appears when two parts tremolo and one of their notes is a unison, in which case you probably want to tell LilyPond to treat the unison as a chord, with \partcombineChords \partcombineAutomatic Or, when you are taking cues and the cue starts mid-tremolo. Neither of those applies here. Keith, would you be willing to help me debug this? The project is hosted in a Git repository on Bitbucket that I can link you to; I'm not ready to share it with the whole list just yet. :-) DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: upgrade and convert-ly
El 30/12/2013 21:31, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com escribió: Mark - On 12/30/2013 01:22 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Hello, Does 2.18 install over the previous version (2.16.2 for me), or must the previous version be uninstalled first? I think this REALLY should be made quite clear in the installation instructions. It is a question is one might quite reasonably anticipate. My own experience is that a new install wipes out the old, but this may be an illusion - if all that's happening is a pointer is being redirected to the new install location. My short experience on Windows says the installer refuses to work unless you uninstall any previous version it could be installed. PLEASE - SOMEONE CLARIFY THIS, then update the installation instructions at the Ly site so this question is answered right there. Tom http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/usage/invoking-convert_002dly gives instructions for converting files. My command prompt comes up as C:\users\Owner. Should I then complete it to be C:\users\Owner convert-ly –e *.ly? My Lilypond files are in an external hard driver. Does that require some alternation in the command? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to update manuals in Frescobaldi?
2013/12/30 Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com Now that Ly 2.18.0 is out, those of us who use Frescobaldi need to update the manuals it refers to in its Documentation Browser tab. Nowhere can I find instructions for how to do that. In the Preferences modal window it is possible to indicate a path to the documentation, but that documentation comes in multiple forms, so I'm at a fork in the road with no map. What does Frescobaldi need? Frescobaldi needs just a new location for the 2.18 doc. The quickest way is using the new online url: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18 You may need updating the documentation browser with Ctrl+R. If you want to use the offline documentation, type this command (suggested in the download page): sh lilypond-2.18.0-OS-TYPE.sh --help and you'll see an option to download the documentation. I'll probably be able to figure it out, but I've been messing with Lilypond for years. Newbies (and often me, too!) need explicit instructions. Secondly, the menu item Help About Frescobaldi Version function display a very nice summary of the versions of various program components/dependencies...with one glaring exception: the Lilypond version it will use on the next compile. It wasn't until I started reading through the Preferences window that I could see that after updating Lilypond to 2.18.0 Frescobaldi automatically knew about the update. Maybe this obscurity could be made less obscure. I think that at startup Frescobaldi checks the lilypond versions installed on the system. The about window can't guess what version of lilypond you have installed, it's up to you! There are some ideas about automatic download of lilypond: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/313 Beyond that: I've become a Frescobaldi addict. What a lovely piece of genuinely useful software. We are so fortunate to have this fine resource, on top of the marvelous Ly! Profound thanks to all involved +1 ;-) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: upgrade and convert-ly
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Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. Great thanks go to the large number of LilyPond enthusiasts whose financial backing enabled one core developer, David Kastrup, to focus exclusively on LilyPond during the entire development cycle. My heartfelt thanks and Happy New Year to all of you involved in LY! Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
2013/12/30 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Thanks and congratulations to everyone! Janek PS http://lilypondblog.org/2013/12/happy-new-year/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
SCORE creator Leland Smith passed away
I didn't see this mentioned yet: a pioneer passed away http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/leland-smith-dies-at-88/ Regards, Patrick Hubers ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Efficient transposition
I have created my first LilyPond file, using Frescobaldi.
(LilyPond 2.18, Frescobaldi 2.0.12)
It's a madrigal by Verdelot, 4 voices, titled Dormend'un giorn'a baia
I've transposed it down a minor third. My question is: is the way I coded
the transposition the most efficient one?
I uploaded the file.
Dormend__a_minor.ly
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156730/Dormend__a_minor.ly
As instructed in the LilyPond manuals I separated the content and the
structure. There is a variable 'sopranonotes', a variable 'sopranowords',
etc. and those are inserted in the structure.
Now, of course I want the original and the transposed version both
available, with the file remaining a single file. I don't want to create a
situation where I have two versions, the original and the transposed
version, and having to update both of them if the conductor asks for, say, a
different text placement.
Currently the 4 voices are transposed individually. So if I want do
undo/redo the transposition I have to comment out the transposition in 4
separate places.
Is there a way to use built-in LilyPond functionality so that there is a
_single_ point in the code for setting the transposition?
I tried embracing the entire score part of the source in a
\transpose a fs { ... }
but the parser didn't accept that.
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Re: Efficient transposition
2013/12/31 Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com:
Is there a way to use built-in LilyPond functionality so that there is a
_single_ point in the code for setting the transposition?
I tried embracing the entire score part of the source in a
\transpose a fs { ... }
but the parser didn't accept that.
Hi,
how about
\score {
\transpose c' a
\new ChoirStaff
... some-music...
}
HTH,
Harm
P.S. Lot's of barcheck errors ...
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Re: Efficient transposition
Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com writes:
I have created my first LilyPond file, using Frescobaldi.
(LilyPond 2.18, Frescobaldi 2.0.12)
That must be the first documented use of LilyPond 2.18.
I've transposed it down a minor third. My question is: is the way I coded
the transposition the most efficient one?
Currently the 4 voices are transposed individually. So if I want do
undo/redo the transposition I have to comment out the transposition in 4
separate places.
Is there a way to use built-in LilyPond functionality so that there is a
_single_ point in the code for setting the transposition?
I tried embracing the entire score part of the source in a
\transpose a fs { ... }
but the parser didn't accept that.
A score cannot be transposed. But its music can.
\score {
\transpose c' a
\new ChoirStaff
\override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 5)
[...]
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Re: Efficient transposition
Hi David, 2013/12/31 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com writes: I have created my first LilyPond file, using Frescobaldi. (LilyPond 2.18, Frescobaldi 2.0.12) That must be the first documented use of LilyPond 2.18. well, http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1639.msg9145#new :) Again, 1000 thanks for your fabulous work, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Efficient transposition
Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com schrieb:
I have created my first LilyPond file, using Frescobaldi.
(LilyPond 2.18, Frescobaldi 2.0.12)
It's a madrigal by Verdelot, 4 voices, titled Dormend'un giorn'a baia
I've transposed it down a minor third. My question is: is the way I
coded
the transposition the most efficient one?
I uploaded the file.
Dormend__a_minor.ly
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156730/Dormend__a_minor.ly
As instructed in the LilyPond manuals I separated the content and the
structure. There is a variable 'sopranonotes', a variable
'sopranowords',
etc. and those are inserted in the structure.
Now, of course I want the original and the transposed version both
available, with the file remaining a single file. I don't want to
create a
situation where I have two versions, the original and the transposed
version, and having to update both of them if the conductor asks for,
say, a
different text placement.
Currently the 4 voices are transposed individually. So if I want do
undo/redo the transposition I have to comment out the transposition in
4
separate places.
Is there a way to use built-in LilyPond functionality so that there is
a
_single_ point in the code for setting the transposition?
I tried embracing the entire score part of the source in a
\transpose a fs { ... }
but the parser didn't accept that.
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I don't know if that will be very clear to you but unfortunately I can't
describe it better or more verbose right now.
When I have this situation (and I have it regularly as I'm engraving
classical/romantic song) I do something like:
File a: music definition
vocals = \relative ...
File b: translation adaptor
vocals = \transpose g e \vocals
File c: score definition
using \vocals
My main file includes the other files.
Of course you have to do this for all parts, but the adaptor file redefines
all variables.
Now when I have to add another transposition I add another adaptor file and
include it in my main file.
Over time the main file contains a number of different include directives for
the transposition adaptors, and I can choose which one to use by commenting out
the others.
HTH
Urs
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convert-ly gives unexpected output
Surely the least urgent problem of the day(!): Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 Didn't quite expect THAT! I assume this is (a) an updating oversight, and (b) therefore not a problem...? Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 Didn't quite expect THAT! sorry I have to ask that - which version are you using (in Frescobaldi)? in my environment I get the version I'm running (2.18.0) Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/convert-ly-gives-unexpected-output-tp156735p156736.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Efficient transposition
David Kastrup wrote
A score cannot be transposed. But its music can.
\score {
\transpose c' a
\new ChoirStaff
\override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 5)
[...]
Wow, I could not have guessed that syntax will work.
You see, the way I understood the documentation was that the \transpose
[note] [note] _must_ be followed _directly_ by a pair of curly braces.
I'm pretty much stunned by your example, where the \transpose c' a is
followed by a \new ChoirStaff
I tried several things, but always with the form \transpose c' a { ... }
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Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
Am 31.12.2013 00:35, schrieb Eluze: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 I can confirm this using version 2.18.0 (both within Frescobaldi and on the commandline). I also would have expected 2.18.0 after the conversion. Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Efficient transposition
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes: Hi David, 2013/12/31 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com writes: I have created my first LilyPond file, using Frescobaldi. (LilyPond 2.18, Frescobaldi 2.0.12) That must be the first documented use of LilyPond 2.18. well, http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1639.msg9145#new :) Again, 1000 thanks for your fabulous work, Well, let's keep the perspective: LilyPond 2.18 is the work of a large number of volunteers, including several who have contributed organizational work rather than code. In numbers of commits, I might be the single largest contributor. But for one part that is due to me splitting contributions into separate commits more than others, for another, the majority of commits is done by others, and I am not involved with every part of LilyPond. And of course I am in the unique position of getting paid for the work I do, enabling me to put in more time than others. And Mike is correct that we want and need more active contributors. I'll try to make some proposals early next year how we may increase the number of people willing and able to improve LilyPond. We also need to revise our release and branching strategies in order to maximize quality, output, and work morale. We also need to work on LilyPond's architecture to avoid the situation where it is falling apart as fast as we are adding new functionality to it. The backend is in a particularly unhealthy state regarding the difficulty of adding new functionality without breaking existing functionality. This holds for both additions made by the user in documents and include files as well as for extensions of the core C++ code. 2.18 is not revolutionary, but it still shows several sizable steps forwards, both in output quality as well as usability. And if you take a look at URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=1q=Fixed_2_19_0, it is clear that 2.19 already is off to a running start. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Efficient transposition
Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com writes:
David Kastrup wrote
A score cannot be transposed. But its music can.
\score {
\transpose c' a
\new ChoirStaff
\override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 5)
[...]
Wow, I could not have guessed that syntax will work.
You see, the way I understood the documentation was that the \transpose
[note] [note] _must_ be followed _directly_ by a pair of curly braces.
I'm pretty much stunned by your example, where the \transpose c' a is
followed by a \new ChoirStaff
I tried several things, but always with the form \transpose c' a { ... }
\transpose c' a { \new ChoirStaff ... }
should work just as well as
\transpose c' a \new ChoirStaff ...
but of course I am lazy.
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Re: SCORE creator Leland Smith passed away
Thanks. A fascinating account. Well worth the time to read! t. On 12/30/2013 03:55 PM, Patrick Hubers wrote: I didn't see this mentioned yet: a pioneer passed away http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/leland-smith-dies-at-88/ Regards, Patrick Hubers ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
So sorry - a lapse. I'm running 2.18.0. t. On 12/30/2013 04:35 PM, Eluze wrote: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 Didn't quite expect THAT! sorry I have to ask that - which version are you using (in Frescobaldi)? in my environment I get the version I'm running (2.18.0) Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/convert-ly-gives-unexpected-output-tp156735p156736.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
...on Kubuntu Linux 13.10. t. On 12/30/2013 04:35 PM, Eluze wrote: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 Didn't quite expect THAT! sorry I have to ask that - which version are you using (in Frescobaldi)? in my environment I get the version I'm running (2.18.0) Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/convert-ly-gives-unexpected-output-tp156735p156736.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes: Am 31.12.2013 00:35, schrieb Eluze: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 I can confirm this using version 2.18.0 (both within Frescobaldi and on the commandline). I also would have expected 2.18.0 after the conversion. It's due to a miscommunication between myself and Phil. This is harmless though a bit of a nuisance. Most of the time, you'll want to use the -d option anyway to avoid declaring a larger version than necessary: in that case this oversight will not have an effect. If you want to really have the version display converted to 2.18.0, you can use -t 2.18.0 I think. This will be fixed with 2.18.1 which I expect to take perhaps a month to arrive. I think I'll be pushing the fix to both stable and development branches soonish, so it will appear in 2.19.0 as well. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
On 12/30/2013 05:13 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes: Am 31.12.2013 00:35, schrieb Eluze: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 I can confirm this using version 2.18.0 (both within Frescobaldi and on the commandline). I also would have expected 2.18.0 after the conversion. It's due to a miscommunication between myself and Phil. This is harmless though a bit of a nuisance. Most of the time, you'll want to use the -d option anyway to avoid declaring a larger version than necessary: in that case this oversight will not have an effect. If you want to really have the version display converted to 2.18.0, you can use -t 2.18.0 I think. This will be fixed with 2.18.1 which I expect to take perhaps a month to arrive. I think I'll be pushing the fix to both stable and development branches soonish, so it will appear in 2.19.0 as well. harmless - thanks for the confirmation. As for the -d option, I find this in the console output for lilypond -h; -d, --define-default=SYM[=VAL] set Scheme option SYM to VAL (default: #t). Use -dhelp for help. Regrettably, that's not language for mere mortals, so I can't make any sense of it. t. -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly gives unexpected output
Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com writes: On 12/30/2013 05:13 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes: Am 31.12.2013 00:35, schrieb Eluze: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Running convert-ly (from Frescobaldi) on a score, I get this at the top of the code: \version 2.17.97 I can confirm this using version 2.18.0 (both within Frescobaldi and on the commandline). I also would have expected 2.18.0 after the conversion. It's due to a miscommunication between myself and Phil. This is harmless though a bit of a nuisance. Most of the time, you'll want to use the -d option anyway to avoid declaring a larger version than necessary: in that case this oversight will not have an effect. If you want to really have the version display converted to 2.18.0, you can use -t 2.18.0 I think. This will be fixed with 2.18.1 which I expect to take perhaps a month to arrive. I think I'll be pushing the fix to both stable and development branches soonish, so it will appear in 2.19.0 as well. harmless - thanks for the confirmation. As for the -d option, I find this in the console output for lilypond -h; -d, --define-default=SYM[=VAL] set Scheme option SYM to VAL (default: #t). Use -dhelp for help. Regrettably, that's not language for mere mortals, so I can't make any sense of it. The options are described in the Using LilyPond manual, and I was talking about the -d option to convert-ly rather than to lilypond. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Bar checks
Following up on my previous post:
Is it good practice to put bar checks inside \lyricsmode { ... } ?
Dormend__a_minor.ly
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156747/Dormend__a_minor.ly
In the source I inserted the pipe-symbol for bar check both in the note
entries and in the lyrics entries.
Of course I noticed the compiler warnings about failed bar checks in the
lyrics.
But the lyrics were lining up just fine, and I couldn't see any pattern in
the errors; they seemed random, so I ignored them.
(I opened the 'fonts and colors' in the preferences, and I changed the color
of 'error lines' to a light shade of grey).
Is it better to not use the pipe symbol in the lyrics?
Or is there a way to get the lyrics to line up correctly _and_ have the
compiler not issue bar check errors?
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Re: Efficient transposition
2013/12/31 Colin Tennyson colintenny...@outlook.com:
You see, the way I understood the documentation was that the \transpose
[note] [note] _must_ be followed _directly_ by a pair of curly braces.
I'm pretty much stunned by your example, where the \transpose c' a is
followed by a \new ChoirStaff
I think docs explain it and examples do exemplify it: lilypond music
expressions are like math expressions: by adding new parts connected
by operators you can build bigger expressions such as -(2+3) from
smaller ones such as 2+3.
Now in lilypond you can have { f g a b } which is a music expression
and so are these:
\relative c { f g a b }
\transpose c c' \relative c { f g a b }
\new Staff \transpose c c' \relative c { f g a b }
et cetera.
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Re: arrrgh. manuals download link hard to find...
Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Updating everything, due to new release of Ly, I'm trying to get the new manuals. Running into an old problem: On the homepage, on the right, in the Quick Links columns, there's a software download link, and link to the manuals. I always assume the manual link will lead also to a download, which it does not. It merely duplicates the link already in the menu at the top of the page. Why give me what I already have? Well, ok - convenience. But... browsing to the manuals page lt;http://lilypond.org/manuals.htmlgt;, OR the downloads page lt;http://lilypond.org/download.htmlgt;, my search for a /clearly labeled manuals download link/ yields absolutely nothing. Not helpful. Not all the world lives eternally in connection with the Internet. Some of us NEED to have local versions of everything on our box so we can always work, regardless of situation. WE need a full manual download. If only it could be found Well, it DOES exist, if you are persistent enough in looking: on the manual page, in the Other material section, click the all link. PLEASE - could we not make the manuals download page location a LOT more obvious than this? Just a thought. Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * tc@ (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi, I'm confused. There are links to all manuals, directly on the manuals page. See image below. Is that what you mean? http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156749/manuals.jpg - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/arrrgh-manuals-download-link-hard-to-find-tp156710p156749.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar checks
Colin Tennyson wrote
Following up on my previous post:
Is it good practice to put bar checks inside \lyricsmode { ... } ?
Dormend__a_minor.ly
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156747/Dormend__a_minor.ly
In the source I inserted the pipe-symbol for bar check both in the note
entries and in the lyrics entries.
Of course I noticed the compiler warnings about failed bar checks in the
lyrics.
But the lyrics were lining up just fine, and I couldn't see any pattern in
the errors; they seemed random, so I ignored them.
(I opened the 'fonts and colors' in the preferences, and I changed the
color of 'error lines' to a light shade of grey).
Is it better to not use the pipe symbol in the lyrics?
Or is there a way to get the lyrics to line up correctly _and_ have the
compiler not issue bar check errors?
Hi Colin,
Yes you *can* do that. No problem.
See here:
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\lyricmode {
\time 2/4
Twin -- kle | Twin -- kle |
}
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http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/bars#bar-and-bar-number-checks
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Re: Efficient transposition
Francisco Vila wrote
I think docs explain it and examples do exemplify it: lilypond music
expressions are like math expressions: by adding new parts connected
by operators you can build bigger expressions
Now in lilypond you can have { f g a b } which is a music expression
and so are these:
\relative c { f g a b }
\transpose c c' \relative c { f g a b }
\new Staff \transpose c c' \relative c { f g a b }
et cetera.
You are quite right of course.
My thinking was focused on the following kind of pattern:
The variable 'global' is called 4 times:
global = {
\key a \minor
\time 4/2
}
Level of indirection; you declare the key in a single place, and the
compiler retrieves it there 4 times.
My underlying vague hope was that something along those lines would be
available for transposition too.
I had tried:
\transpose c' a {
\score { ... }
}
Which doesn't work.
My error was that on that negative result alone I jumped to the conclusion
that \transpose cannot be used on any grouping, that it can only be used on
otherwise uninterrupted sections.
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Re: LilyPond 2.18.0 released
Janek Warchoł wrote 2013/12/30 David Kastrup lt; dak@ gt;: We are proud to announce the release of GNU LilyPond 2.18.0 - the new stable release. LilyPond is a music engraving program devoted to producing the highest-quality sheet music possible. It brings the aesthetics of traditionally engraved music to computer printouts. Thanks and congratulations to everyone! Janek PS http://lilypondblog.org/2013/12/happy-new-year/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user This is awesome news!! Great way to end the yearand start off 2014! Thank you everyone who made this great software possible! :) Ben - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyPond-2-18-0-released-tp156692p156752.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
fixed it!
Thank you for all your help! I actually got it so that there aren't any errors popping up right now. Lyric bar check errors were happening due to the fact that you can't put a bar check unless the lyric is on the downbeat. I don't know why that is. But that seems to be how it works. -Molly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
64-bit vs 32-bit LilyPond (GNU/Linux)
I usually don't think twice about this sort of thing, I always reach for x64 installers since all my systems here are 64bit. The only exception maybe is something like Python or something odd that is finicky... But, as far as LilyPond goes, is there any real-world benefit to using the 64bit install (on a 64bit OS) vs. the 32bit install (on 64bit OS)? Does RAM ever really being to be an issue with LilyPond? I've never seen resource spikes at all so maybe I'm just the minority here, but could someone tell me what the differences are between these installers? Thanks! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/64-bit-vs-32-bit-LilyPond-GNU-Linux-tp156754.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
???: 2.18 installed; local docs in Frescobaldi are 2.16
Running Kubuntu 13.10, Frescobaldi 2.0.11 - I issue both "sudo uninstall-lilypond" and "uninstall-lilypond" commands to make sure NO lilypond installation exists anywhere. I then issue "sudo sh lilypond-2.18.0-1.linux-x86.sh --doc" to install 2.18 AND documentation system wide. All appears to go well. Terminal output says - "Full documentation can be found at file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/info/dir" Into Frescobaldi's "paths to Lilypond documentation" window I put "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html" I launch Frescobaldi, open a documentation window, and see... "Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.2" Two questions: 1. How can any of 2.16 still be on my machine? What do I have to do to remove a prior installation? 2. Why isn't the 2.18 documentation showing up in Frescobaldi? When I manually launch " file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/Documentation/web/manuals.html" I do get the 2.18 documentation in a browser, so it IS there. I'm just trying to get Frescobaldi to show documentation that isn't dependent on the Internet. Any suggestions would most welcome! Tom Have been working with the http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18 /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html [v. 2.16, previously installed] -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: punctus perfectionis/divisionis (Machaut)
On 31 December 2013 00:00, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Do anyone know how to make punctus perfectionis/divisionis in
mensural music (in lilypond) other than using hackery ?
I'm using the example from:
http://turkos.aspodata.se/noter/diamm/
http://diamm.nsms.ox.ac.uk/moodle/
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This may count as hackery *makes mental note to install 2.18*. I can’t
work out how to move the dot horizontally:
\version 2.16.1
\score {
\new MensuralVoice \relative c' {
\clef petrucci-c3
\time 3/1
\stemUp
d2 c1 b2 a1 g1 d1\rest
\once \override Voice.Dots #'staff-position = #-1
% This next line doesn't seem to work
\once \override Voice.Dots #'X-offset = #2
f1.*2/3 e1 f g\breve.
}
}
Vaughan
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Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit LilyPond (GNU/Linux)
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: I usually don't think twice about this sort of thing, I always reach for x64 installers since all my systems here are 64bit. The only exception maybe is something like Python or something odd that is finicky... But, as far as LilyPond goes, is there any real-world benefit to using the 64bit install (on a 64bit OS) vs. the 32bit install (on 64bit OS)? Does RAM ever really being to be an issue with LilyPond? I've never seen resource spikes at all so maybe I'm just the minority here, but could someone tell me what the differences are between these installers? For some of my larger projects memory usage climbs above 4GB (max 32-bit address space). So using 64-bit is very nice. I've never benchmarked speed of 32-bit versus 64-bit though. -Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit LilyPond (GNU/Linux)
Jay Anderson wrote On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM, SoundsFromSound lt; soundsfromsound@ gt; wrote: I usually don't think twice about this sort of thing, I always reach for x64 installers since all my systems here are 64bit. The only exception maybe is something like Python or something odd that is finicky... But, as far as LilyPond goes, is there any real-world benefit to using the 64bit install (on a 64bit OS) vs. the 32bit install (on 64bit OS)? Does RAM ever really being to be an issue with LilyPond? I've never seen resource spikes at all so maybe I'm just the minority here, but could someone tell me what the differences are between these installers? For some of my larger projects memory usage climbs above 4GB (max 32-bit address space). So using 64-bit is very nice. I've never benchmarked speed of 32-bit versus 64-bit though. -Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Wow, really? I never thought editing text files (.ly) would ever get close to 4GB of RAM. Maybe I'll try a quick benchmark here... Thanks! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/64-bit-vs-32-bit-LilyPond-GNU-Linux-tp156754p156758.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: No tremolo to end
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:36:25 -0800, Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com wrote: Usually this appears when two parts tremolo and one of their notes is a unison, in which case you probably want to tell LilyPond to treat the unison as a chord, with \partcombineChords \partcombineAutomatic Or, when you are taking cues and the cue starts mid-tremolo. Neither of those applies here. Keith, would you be willing to help me debug this? The project is hosted in a Git repository on Bitbucket that I can link you to; I'm not ready to share it with the whole list just yet. :-) Warning messages are there only to help find problems, often flagging ambiguous situations or situations where the program is known to do a bad job. If you checked and found no problems, don't worry about it. There was a similar unhelpful warning with tuplets in \partcombine, and now that I look at it (http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=245) the warning came whether there were unisons or not. We recently looked into it and decided to shut of the warning. What you describes sounds similar. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PDF portfolio of 2.18.0 docs
You need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended Make that to use it at all. Using anything else all you get is a page with the message For the best experience, open this PDF portfolio in Acrobat 9 or Adobe Reader 9, or later. Could you also post them as individual pdf files? On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.netwrote: On 31/12/13 07:06, Nick Payne wrote: I have created a fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolio of the 2.18 PDF docs for Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals. The portfolio can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf (55Mb). p.s. I forgot to add - you need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended. I'm not aware of any third party PDF readers that support portfolios properly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PDF portfolio of 2.18.0 docs
Update for those of us who use open-source viewers: If you open up the file with evince (haven't tested it with anything else and don't plan to), open the side panel, and have it display attachments then you can see the files and open or save them from there. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Alex Loomis thebluemusic...@gmail.comwrote: You need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended Make that to use it at all. Using anything else all you get is a page with the message For the best experience, open this PDF portfolio in Acrobat 9 or Adobe Reader 9, or later. Could you also post them as individual pdf files? On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.netwrote: On 31/12/13 07:06, Nick Payne wrote: I have created a fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolio of the 2.18 PDF docs for Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals. The portfolio can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf (55Mb). p.s. I forgot to add - you need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended. I'm not aware of any third party PDF readers that support portfolios properly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: arrrgh. manuals download link hard to find...
Those are links to the online versions, it sounded like he was looking for the PDFs. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:06 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.comwrote: Tom Cloyd-2 wrote Updating everything, due to new release of Ly, I'm trying to get the new manuals. Running into an old problem: On the homepage, on the right, in the Quick Links columns, there's a software download link, and link to the manuals. I always assume the manual link will lead also to a download, which it does not. It merely duplicates the link already in the menu at the top of the page. Why give me what I already have? Well, ok - convenience. But... browsing to the manuals page lt;http://lilypond.org/manuals.htmlgt;, OR the downloads page lt;http://lilypond.org/download.htmlgt;, my search for a /clearly labeled manuals download link/ yields absolutely nothing. Not helpful. Not all the world lives eternally in connection with the Internet. Some of us NEED to have local versions of everything on our box so we can always work, regardless of situation. WE need a full manual download. If only it could be found Well, it DOES exist, if you are persistent enough in looking: on the manual page, in the Other material section, click the all link. PLEASE - could we not make the manuals download page location a LOT more obvious than this? Just a thought. Tom -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * tc@ (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Trauma Psych blog: http://thetraumapsych.wordpress.com * Trauma! A PTSD blog: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/traumaptsdblog/ * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi, I'm confused. There are links to all manuals, directly on the manuals page. See image below. Is that what you mean? http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156749/manuals.jpg - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/arrrgh-manuals-download-link-hard-to-find-tp156710p156749.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PDF portfolio of 2.18.0 docs
Alex Loomis wrote Update for those of us who use open-source viewers: If you open up the file with evince (haven't tested it with anything else and don't plan to), open the side panel, and have it display attachments then you can see the files and open or save them from there. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Alex Loomis lt; thebluemusicbox@ gt;wrote: You need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended Make that to use it at all. Using anything else all you get is a page with the message For the best experience, open this PDF portfolio in Acrobat 9 or Adobe Reader 9, or later. Could you also post them as individual pdf files? On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Nick Payne lt; nick.payne@.on gt;wrote: On 31/12/13 07:06, Nick Payne wrote: I have created a fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolio of the 2.18 PDF docs for Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals. The portfolio can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf (55Mb). p.s. I forgot to add - you need to open the portfolio in Adobe Reader 9 or later to use it as intended. I'm not aware of any third party PDF readers that support portfolios properly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Confirmed. The free SumatraPDF displays the same 'error' message, but the sidebar bookmarks all load OK, once clicked. Odd, but working. Thanks for this! Ben http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n156763/bookmarks_load_OK.png - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/PDF-portfolio-of-2-18-0-docs-tp156712p156763.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit LilyPond (GNU/Linux)
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, really? I never thought editing text files (.ly) would ever get close to 4GB of RAM. Maybe I'll try a quick benchmark here... 6.9GB for one book to be exact. Text editing has nothing to do with it though. This is the amount of memory used to compile the project. This specific book is a much larger than most for sure (633 pages (9x12) of piano + horn music). I doubt most people would notice a difference between 32-bit and 64-bit installs. -Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: No tremolo to end
-Original Message- From: Keith OHara [mailto:k-ohara5...@oco.net] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:03 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org; Daniel Rosen Subject: Re: No tremolo to end Keith, would you be willing to help me debug this? The project is hosted in a Git repository on Bitbucket that I can link you to; I'm not ready to share it with the whole list just yet. :-) Warning messages are there only to help find problems, often flagging ambiguous situations or situations where the program is known to do a bad job. If you checked and found no problems, don't worry about it. There was a similar unhelpful warning with tuplets in \partcombine, and now that I look at it (http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=245) the warning came whether there were unisons or not. We recently looked into it and decided to shut of the warning. What you describes sounds similar. I see your point, but I subscribe to the school of thought that if there are no problems with the file, then it should compile error-free. If it really is a bug, then I'd like to report it as such, but I can't figure out how to isolate it in a tiny example; this is where I'm requesting assistance. DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ???: 2.18 installed; local docs in Frescobaldi are 2.16
Op Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:11:42 -0700 Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com schreef: Running Kubuntu 13.10, Frescobaldi 2.0.11 - I issue both sudo uninstall-lilypond and uninstall-lilypond commands to make sure NO lilypond installation exists anywhere. I then issue sudo sh lilypond-2.18.0-1.linux-x86.sh --doc to install 2.18 AND documentation system wide. All appears to go well. Terminal output says - Full documentation can be found at file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/info/dir Into Frescobaldi's paths to Lilypond documentation window I put /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html You should enter /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/ (the help/whatsthis says enter the folder the Documentation folder resides), so without index.html. I launch Frescobaldi, open a documentation window, and see... Manuals for LilyPond 2.16.2 It might display the still as stable marked manual on LilyPond.org? (see the version chooser in the doc browser). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit LilyPond (GNU/Linux)
Jay Anderson wrote On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM, SoundsFromSound lt; soundsfromsound@ gt; wrote: Wow, really? I never thought editing text files (.ly) would ever get close to 4GB of RAM. Maybe I'll try a quick benchmark here... 6.9GB for one book to be exact. Text editing has nothing to do with it though. This is the amount of memory used to compile the project. This specific book is a much larger than most for sure (633 pages (9x12) of piano + horn music). I doubt most people would notice a difference between 32-bit and 64-bit installs. -Jay ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Now I see what you're getting at. So, assuming a user never compiles/renders/outputs their score, just merely does the inputting, their process is not going to increase RAM usage practically at all, right? It's the compiling where LilyPond eats up resources in large projects? - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/64-bit-vs-32-bit-LilyPond-GNU-Linux-tp156754p156771.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond --warranty
Hi, If I type: lilypond -w I see (among other things): Copyright (c) 1996--2012 If I type: convert-ly -w I see (among other things): Copyright (C) 2001--2012 Shouldn't 2012 be bumped to 2013, or better yet, 2014? -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.13
Hi all, Frescobaldi 2.0.13 is out. One bug in 2.0.12 really needed to be fixed (the Python error message when showing the pitch language menu) and I forgot to mention other new features in the changelog. New: - Midi capturing (was already in 2.0.12), contributed by Manuel Mchalwat - Basic MusicXML export, contributed by Peter Bjuhr (was in 2.0.12) And really new: - LilyPond-Auto-engrave. If enabled, LilyPond is run automatically whenever needed, in preview mode. Fixed: - Fix issue 332: Cursor didn't move on undo/redo - Fix issue 315: chords: \include predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly And the master variable is back! All be it in a slightly different implementation: the redirected filename is not directly given to a LilyPond process running on behalf of the current document, but the other document is loaded (if it wasn't already) and LilyPond is run on that document. Download: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/releases (Official link: http://frescobaldi.org/download) Enjoy and a happy 2014! Wilbert -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
