Re: linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Chua
> And now you have a chutzpah to come and
complain about that? Better yet, we are expected to be working on
fixing those?

Al,

Complaining about something that I can't fix, yep. But asking you to
fix those, nop! That's not my intent. All I'm trying to say is there's
too many out there who don't care about linux-next until the vanilla
version came out and then everyone (may be just me) complained that it
doesn't work anymore, So, would it be reasonable to allow the
old-method to still function may be via CONFIG_OLD_PROCFS but warning
that the old interface should not be used anymore. That's to allow
"me" to continue to be able to work on the latest linux-3.10.0-rc1
while waiting for someone to fix those old modules. Reasonable?

Thanks,
Jeff

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Al Viro  wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:19:46AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
>> Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
>> Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
>> diva/eicon and fio modules.
>>
>> Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
>> subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
>> handle the move rather than killing off the "tranditional" procfs
>> access
>
> I might feel bad about those, if not for one thing - their authors
> had explicitly chosen to keep them out of tree and did not bother
> to watch what was going on in linux-next - these changes had been
> there for quite a while.  And now you have a chutzpah to come and
> complain about that?  Better yet, we are expected to be working on
> fixing those?  Really?  It's not a rethorical question - I seriously
> want to know whether I'd misparsed what you meant to say.
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Re: linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Al Viro
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:19:46AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
> Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
> Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
> diva/eicon and fio modules.
> 
> Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
> subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
> handle the move rather than killing off the "tranditional" procfs
> access

I might feel bad about those, if not for one thing - their authors
had explicitly chosen to keep them out of tree and did not bother
to watch what was going on in linux-next - these changes had been
there for quite a while.  And now you have a chutzpah to come and
complain about that?  Better yet, we are expected to be working on
fixing those?  Really?  It's not a rethorical question - I seriously
want to know whether I'd misparsed what you meant to say.
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linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Chua
Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
diva/eicon and fio modules.

Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
handle the move rather than killing off the "tranditional" procfs
access ... like a warning that the interface is going away soon?


Thanks,
Jeff
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linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Chua
Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
diva/eicon and fio modules.

Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
handle the move rather than killing off the tranditional procfs
access ... like a warning that the interface is going away soon?


Thanks,
Jeff
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Re: linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Al Viro
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:19:46AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
 Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
 Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
 diva/eicon and fio modules.
 
 Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
 subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
 handle the move rather than killing off the tranditional procfs
 access

I might feel bad about those, if not for one thing - their authors
had explicitly chosen to keep them out of tree and did not bother
to watch what was going on in linux-next - these changes had been
there for quite a while.  And now you have a chutzpah to come and
complain about that?  Better yet, we are expected to be working on
fixing those?  Really?  It's not a rethorical question - I seriously
want to know whether I'd misparsed what you meant to say.
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Re: linux-3.10-rc1 procfs interface breaks vmware, eicon, fio .... any fix?

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Chua
 And now you have a chutzpah to come and
complain about that? Better yet, we are expected to be working on
fixing those?

Al,

Complaining about something that I can't fix, yep. But asking you to
fix those, nop! That's not my intent. All I'm trying to say is there's
too many out there who don't care about linux-next until the vanilla
version came out and then everyone (may be just me) complained that it
doesn't work anymore, So, would it be reasonable to allow the
old-method to still function may be via CONFIG_OLD_PROCFS but warning
that the old interface should not be used anymore. That's to allow
me to continue to be able to work on the latest linux-3.10.0-rc1
while waiting for someone to fix those old modules. Reasonable?

Thanks,
Jeff

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Al Viro v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk wrote:
 On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:19:46AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
 Anyone on lkml working on patches for vmware to make it run on
 Linux-3.10-rc1? The recent change in procfs interface breaks vmware,
 diva/eicon and fio modules.

 Every modules is now broken and needs to be reworked. Is there a more
 subtle way to handle this like give more time to allow developers to
 handle the move rather than killing off the tranditional procfs
 access

 I might feel bad about those, if not for one thing - their authors
 had explicitly chosen to keep them out of tree and did not bother
 to watch what was going on in linux-next - these changes had been
 there for quite a while.  And now you have a chutzpah to come and
 complain about that?  Better yet, we are expected to be working on
 fixing those?  Really?  It's not a rethorical question - I seriously
 want to know whether I'd misparsed what you meant to say.
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