Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
On 06/04/2015 09:11 PM, Herminio Hernandez Jr wrote: Hello, Isreal What video card do you have on your iBook? If it is a radeon card did you try this live radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off video=1024x768-32 video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=-1? You are going to have Xorg issues on 15.04 unfortunately. See this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264322 thread on the ubuntuforums. Also if you have an older iBook you may have run into a kernel issue when it comes to sound. You can read up on that here http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/2012/03/installing-debian-linux-on-ppc-part-iv.html. Hi Herminio! Yes, I have tried that as well... but honestly, I found it was much easier to simply copy my Xorg over from a flash disk. I did have a kernel issue with 14.04 which required me to modprobe one of the various snd-aoa codecs and I still could not get it running, though Fritz pointed out that I should try using alsamixer to select the correct hardware device. I just think PPC 15.04 has some issues, personally. when I tried Lubuntu earlier on (before release) I did not find as many larger issues... but I have been very busy and not able to devote as much time to testing Lubuntu PPC as I would like. Hopefully this will change :) Thanks for the links I will need to reference those soon enough :) I may try going back to 14.04 again and wrangling the sound issues... but I am also still very busy with other projects as wellhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Right now I am running 14.04 and it is working great for me. I am considering running 15.04 and 15.10 as linux containers. It looks like the Xorg issue kills the ubiquity installer when it tries to partition the disk or else I would dual boot. On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:24 -0500, Israel wrote: On 06/04/2015 09:11 PM, Herminio Hernandez Jr wrote: Hello, Isreal What video card do you have on your iBook? If it is a radeon card did you try this live radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off video=1024x768-32 video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=-1? You are going to have Xorg issues on 15.04 unfortunately. See this thread on the ubuntuforums. Also if you have an older iBook you may have run into a kernel issue when it comes to sound. You can read up on that here. Hi Herminio! Yes, I have tried that as well... but honestly, I found it was much easier to simply copy my Xorg over from a flash disk. I did have a kernel issue with 14.04 which required me to modprobe one of the various snd-aoa codecs and I still could not get it running, though Fritz pointed out that I should try using alsamixer to select the correct hardware device. I just think PPC 15.04 has some issues, personally. when I tried Lubuntu earlier on (before release) I did not find as many larger issues... but I have been very busy and not able to devote as much time to testing Lubuntu PPC as I would like. Hopefully this will change :) Thanks for the links I will need to reference those soon enough :) I may try going back to 14.04 again and wrangling the sound issues... but I am also still very busy with other projects as well -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Hello, Isreal What video card do you have on your iBook? If it is a radeon card did you try this live radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off video=1024x768-32 video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=-1? You are going to have Xorg issues on 15.04 unfortunately. See this thread on the ubuntuforums. Also if you have an older iBook you may have run into a kernel issue when it comes to sound. You can read up on that here. On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:55 -0500, Israel wrote: Hi Peter On 06/04/2015 08:14 AM, Peter Golis wrote: Hello Israel, Could you please summarize your problems? You had written about issue with accessing console using Ubuntu mini. Are you talking about Mac Mini, or Ubuntu Minimal installation? Did you had try to force ofonly for video card during boot process? Ubuntu Mini on the iBook which is PPC. No, ofonly doesn't usually work on my model (in past experiences..), but I will try it, since I still have Debian Jessie mini installed. Also usually I can boot to at least console even if Xorg is psychedelic... I have an xorg file I usually pop on it, though I think 14.04 had perfect video, only sound didn't wor You had written about issue with power off when you had try to install random software. Did you had checked computer battery and power source? It was plugged in both times, and had a full battery. This is not a normal issue of I did something random and careless This is a big, PPC is not given any love and has gotten worse and worse. In 14.04 there was a huge issue with hwdetect, forcing me to research my specific sound modules and forcing them to load. Now, here we are a year later. I boot, and the computer either shuts down when I install things, OR (in Debian) I cannot even access a TTY. There is nothing. I turn it on, and voila! Nothing. Or course Debian has more issues (no built-in support for airport... but fixing that is doable... just annoying), but it is not meant to be beginner distro like Ubuntu. Which is why I normally use Ubuntu, it simply works and I do not have to spend any time tweaking system side things. I can spend my efforts tweaking my desktop/panels/keyboard shortcuts to fit my work flow. You had written about issue with sound. Did you had tested module loading? That was for 14.04... I did test... I don't remember which one it was, I think it was ornico maybe tas i don't remember, but it has been about a year since I tried 14.04. I had 12.04 mini with a WM installed until I tested Lubuntu 15.04, Ubuntu Mini 15.04, and now currently Debian Jessie mini. This email have conversation topic ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues, where is available Ubuntu 15.04 for PowerPC architecture? You can download minimal images for all the supported architectures: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PowerPC_.28ppc.29.2A.2A You can also download a premade Lubuntu image for PPC, but I figure you already know this, and where it is... Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Peter Golis gol...@centrum.sk, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 13:51 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list Hi Peter, My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-whateverone and mess with alsamixer. Thanks you for your input!! I appreciate your insights and help. On 06/04/2015 02:00 AM, Peter Golis wrote: Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 Predmet: Re:
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Hi Peter On 06/04/2015 08:14 AM, Peter Golis wrote: Hello Israel, Could you please summarize your problems? You had written about issue with accessing console using Ubuntu mini. Are you talking about Mac Mini, or Ubuntu Minimal installation? Did you had try to force ofonly for video card during boot process? Ubuntu Mini on the iBook which is PPC. No, ofonly doesn't usually work on my model (in past experiences..), but I will try it, since I still have Debian Jessie mini installed. Also usually I can boot to at least console even if Xorg is psychedelic... I have an xorg file I usually pop on it, though I think 14.04 had perfect video, only sound didn't work. You had written about issue with power off when you had try to install random software. Did you had checked computer battery and power source? It was plugged in both times, and had a full battery. This is not a normal issue of I did something random and careless This is a big, PPC is not given any love and has gotten worse and worse. In 14.04 there was a huge issue with hwdetect, forcing me to research my specific sound modules and forcing them to load. Now, here we are a year later. I boot, and the computer either shuts down when I install things, OR (in Debian) I cannot even access a TTY. There is nothing. I turn it on, and voila! Nothing. Or course Debian has more issues (no built-in support for airport... but fixing that is doable... just annoying), but it is not meant to be beginner distro like Ubuntu. Which is why I normally use Ubuntu, it simply works and I do not have to spend any time tweaking system side things. I can spend my efforts tweaking my desktop/panels/keyboard shortcuts to fit my work flow. You had written about issue with sound. Did you had tested module loading? That was for 14.04... I did test... I don't remember which one it was, I think it was ornico maybe tas i don't remember, but it has been about a year since I tried 14.04. I had 12.04 mini with a WM installed until I tested Lubuntu 15.04, Ubuntu Mini 15.04, and now currently Debian Jessie mini. This email have conversation topic ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues, where is available/Ubuntu 15.04 for PowerPC/ architecture? You can download minimal images for all the supported architectures: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PowerPC_.28ppc.29.2A.2A You can also download a premade Lubuntu image for PPC, but I figure you already know this, and where it is... Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Peter Golis gol...@centrum.sk, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 13:51 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list Hi Peter, My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-/whateverone/ and mess with alsamixer. Thanks you for your input!! I appreciate your insights and help. On 06/04/2015 02:00 AM, Peter Golis wrote: Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com mailto:este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list On 06/03/2015 07:45 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Israel: Right now 14.04 is fine for PPC . . . there is a Fixing sound in 14.04 thread on the Apple Hardware sub-forum . . . some are easier to do than others . . . . I have some posts on that thread, and once I got around to trying to fix it, mine was pretty easy . . . . There are instructions, perhaps on the PowerPCFAQ, as well . . . you have to find out which device ID alsamixer is using??? If you can't find the thread, let me know . . . rsavage is the gentleman who posted the fixes for sound
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com wrote: My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-*whateverone* and mess with alsamixer. Ditto . . . what he said . . . lack of coherency . . . not even TTY . . . . 12.04 worked flawlessly . . . . : - ) F -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list On 06/03/2015 07:45 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Israel: Right now 14.04 is fine for PPC . . . there is a Fixing sound in 14.04 thread on the Apple Hardware sub-forum . . . some are easier to do than others . . . . I have some posts on that thread, and once I got around to trying to fix it, mine was pretty easy . . . . There are instructions, perhaps on the PowerPCFAQ, as well . . . you have to find out which device ID alsamixer is using??? If you can't find the thread, let me know . . . rsavage is the gentleman who posted the fixes for sound there. F Hi Fritz! I haven't looked at that thread in quite a while (probably close to a year...), so I will revisit it, since I am sure there have been more suggestions and fixes. I didn't see the alsamixer thing, so I will definitely have to give it another look! -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Hi Peter, My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-/whateverone/ and mess with alsamixer. Thanks you for your input!! I appreciate your insights and help. On 06/04/2015 02:00 AM, Peter Golis wrote: Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list On 06/03/2015 07:45 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Israel: Right now 14.04 is fine for PPC . . . there is a Fixing sound in 14.04 thread on the Apple Hardware sub-forum . . . some are easier to do than others . . . . I have some posts on that thread, and once I got around to trying to fix it, mine was pretty easy . . . . There are instructions, perhaps on the PowerPCFAQ, as well . . . you have to find out which device ID alsamixer is using??? If you can't find the thread, let me know . . . rsavage is the gentleman who posted the fixes for sound there. F Hi Fritz! I haven't looked at that thread in quite a while (probably close to a year...), so I will revisit it, since I am sure there have been more suggestions and fixes. I didn't see the alsamixer thing, so I will definitely have to give it another look! -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues
Hello Israel, Could you please summarize your problems? You had written about issue with accessing console using Ubuntu mini. Are you talking about Mac Mini, or Ubuntu Minimal installation? Did you had try to force ofonly for video card during boot process? You had written about issue with power off when you had try to install random software. Did you had checked computer battery and power source? You had written about issue with sound. Did you had tested module loading? This email have conversation topic ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues, where is available Ubuntu 15.04 for PowerPC architecture? Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Peter Golis gol...@centrum.sk, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 13:51 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list Hi Peter, My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-whateverone and mess with alsamixer. Thanks you for your input!! I appreciate your insights and help. On 06/04/2015 02:00 AM, Peter Golis wrote:Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. __ Od: Israel israeld...@gmail.com israeld...@gmail.com Komu: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com este.el@gmail.com Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues CC: lubuntu user list On 06/03/2015 07:45 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Israel: Right now 14.04 is fine for PPC . . . there is a Fixing sound in 14.04 thread on the Apple Hardware sub-forum . . . some are easier to do than others . . . . I have some posts on that thread, and once I got around to trying to fix it, mine was pretty easy . . . . There are instructions, perhaps on the PowerPCFAQ, as well . . . you have to find out which device ID alsamixer is using??? If you can't find the thread, let me know . . . rsavage is the gentleman who posted the fixes for sound there. F Hi Fritz! I haven't looked at that thread in quite a while (probably close to a year...), so I will revisit it, since I am sure there have been more suggestions and fixes. I didn't see the alsamixer thing, so I will definitely have to give it another look! -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
