Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre client/server versions/compatibility [EXT]

2019-10-17 Thread Dave Holland
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 05:12:01AM +, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> Each client and server negotiate protocol compatibility at connection
> time, so if new features are added they are only active if both
> systems support them.

I just wanted to add that clients up to 2.12.2 have a bug around
protocol negotiation during client reconnection, which bit us - the fix
is here: https://review.whamcloud.com/#/c/34480/ (and I gather will be
in 2.12.3)

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre and Optane

2020-01-16 Thread Dave Holland
Hi Andreas,

thanks for that. I'll follow with interest - though we only got our
first Optane system to test rather recently.

Cheers,
Dave
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 07:56:42PM +, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> The most likely candidate for effectively using Optane/NVRAM would be
> 
> via Persistent Client Cache (PCC), which allows client-local storage
> to
> 
> be part of the Lustre namespace.  Files can be cached on a local
> NVRAM
> 
> device (managed by a local filesystem like ext4, or possibly
> something
> 
> more experimental like NOVA for better performance) and then migrated
> 
> into the cache.
> 
> Once the file is in PCC, it can be accessed via the local filesystem
> 
> operations, including DAX, for very low-latency operations.  See the
> 
> presentation from LAD'19 for details:
> 
> [1]https://www.eofs.eu/_media/events/lad19/07_li_xi-nvram_pcc.pdf
> [eofs.eu]
> 
> It should be noted that in Lustre 2.13, files in PCC are NOT resident
> in the
> 
> main filesystem, so if the client node goes offline then the files
> will not be
> 
> accessible until the client node is restarted.  For some workloads
> this is OK
> 
> (e.g. files being generated locally with high IOPS that are
> occasionally
> 
> needed on other clients), but not for others.  We will be improving
> PCC to
> 
> use FLR to mirror a copy into the client cache and still keep a copy
> in the
> 
> main filesystem, but that is not available yet.
> 
> Cheers, Andreas
> 
> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:03, Dave Holland <[2]d...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> I haven't been to LUG or LAD recently, so I'm a bit out of the loop,
> but
> how much use is Optane finding in the Lustre world?
> The main obstacle I see is that it's server-local, so building a
> resilient/failover-capable system isn't straightforward.
> Thanks for any observations.
> Cheers,
> Dave
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> ** Dave Holland ** Systems Support -- Informatics Systems Group **
> ** 01223 496923 **Wellcome Sanger Institute, Hinxton, UK**
> 
> Cheers, Andreas
> --
> Andreas Dilger
> Principal Lustre Architect
> Whamcloud
> 
> References
> 
> 1. 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.eofs.eu_-5Fmedia_events_lad19_07-5Fli-5Fxi-2Dnvram-5Fpcc.pdf=DwMFAg=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo=64bKjxgut4Pa0xs5b84yPg=H2vGJE5te4vZmLD2u-for6b7tPd0hqJ5ZGK1KCJW1PA=65AxT6uau9wbcX-T0aEFtfzXX-iIrAw-K1SlVCjJ4oY=
> 2. mailto:d...@sanger.ac.uk



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[lustre-discuss] Lustre and Optane

2020-01-13 Thread Dave Holland
I haven't been to LUG or LAD recently, so I'm a bit out of the loop, but
how much use is Optane finding in the Lustre world?

The main obstacle I see is that it's server-local, so building a
resilient/failover-capable system isn't straightforward.

Thanks for any observations.

Cheers,
Dave
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** 01223 496923 **Wellcome Sanger Institute, Hinxton, UK**


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