date:20131026

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
 I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial 
 program for a platform now long gone.
 
 But, as I wrote in
 news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
 reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
 requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
 fixing the bug?

Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
   generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
  Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
  successful in the long run?
 
 It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
 although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 

LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
complete outline mode.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:28:44 +1300
Bryan Baldwin br...@katofiad.co.nz wrote:

 On 10/26/2013 02:08 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
  And that may be the origin of the problem, SINCE IN ALL CAPS IT IS
  PLAIN UNREADABLE AND THUS NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY READ IT.
 
 That's backwards. Its part of the solution. It doesn't matter if you
 read it or not, because it applies whether you read it or not.

It's also in upper case in the GPL2, so he was pretty much quoting it
(inexactly).

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Hal Kierstead


On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
 Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
 successful in the long run?
 
 It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
 although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 
 
 LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
 perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
 missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
 complete outline mode.
 
 Thanks,
 
 SteveT
 
 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
OK, I will take up the challenge.  I love LyX, and use it for everything, even 
my private notes, EXCEPT when collaborating.  Nobody else I work with uses it.  
Even if I write the first draft in LyX, and my coauthors do not change the 
front matter, I cannot convert their file to good LyX.  If this were possible I 
think my coauthors would be trying out LyX and quickly converting.  I cannot 
even get undergraduates or graduate students to give it a try.

I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the 
original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra 
data to insure the conversion.

Hal

Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not found?

Thanks 

uwe 


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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
 pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not 
 found?

It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
_minimal_ example displaying the issue.

Liviu


 Thanks

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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . Are 
there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
version is?
Thanks

uwe

Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello
 
 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
 put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
 not found?
 
 It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
 usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
 _minimal_ example displaying the issue.
 
 Liviu
 
 
 Thanks
 
 uwe
 
 
 
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Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Hal Kierstead
hal.kierst...@icloud.com wrote:

On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
successful in the long run?

It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance,
although at a frustratingly slow pace these days.

LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
complete outline mode.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
OK, I will take up the challenge. I love LyX, and use it for everything,
even my private notes, EXCEPT when collaborating. Nobody else I work with
uses it. Even if I write the first draft in LyX, and my coauthors do not
change the front matter, I cannot convert their file to good LyX. If this
were possible I think my coauthors would be trying out LyX and quickly
converting. I cannot even get undergraduates or graduate students to give it
a try.

Hi Hal,

This is a common request and I understand your frustration. It would
be great if LyX were able to perfectly import LaTeX. I would like to
see this and I have the impression that many developers would like to
see this. The reason that importing LaTeX into LyX is far from perfect
is simply that it's hard. It's very hard to parse LaTeX because of all
of the possible commands and packages.

I'm actually quite impressed and thankful that it works as well as it does.

The good news is that it's getting better with each release. The
following lists the fifteen bugs that will be fixed in LyX 2.1 related
to importing LaTeX:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopeneddescription=~reporter=~component=tex2lyxsummary=~keywords=~fixedintrunkcol=idcol=summarycol=keywordscol=reportercol=statuscol=typecol=severitydesc=1order=id

I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the
original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra
data to insure the conversion.

I can see where you're coming from but I personally don't agree with
this. I never think ugly hacks are the answer. And even if this were
done, maybe things would work better if your coauthors did not change
any single LaTeX command and only changed the text, but the moment
they change one thing (even adding a simple \textbf), this can be a
huge deal to the parser and not even ugly hacks will save us there.

I don't know of the following analogy is good, but I'm going to throw
it out there anyway. Think about a linguistic language translator.
Translating is difficult. Google translator does an incredible job in
my opinion, but even then there is no round trip. (The following is a
little OT but it works within the analogy so I'm going with it.) In
response to many who think that the goal of LyX developers is for
everyone to use LyX, I don't think the answer is to try to convert
everyone to speak English. Multilingualism is great and the world
would be pretty boring if everyone spoke the same language.

In my opinion the best thing to do is to improve tex2lyx little by
little. If you find a bug, see if it's reported (look for component
tex2lyx) and if not please report it.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Scott

Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . 
 Are there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
 version is?

Try Insert  Float  Figure. (But I can't help with the exact German term.

Liviu


 Thanks

 uwe

 Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
 put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
 not found?

 It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
 usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
 _minimal_ example displaying the issue.

 Liviu


 Thanks

 uwe



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Re: how to center a wide table float

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've been battling with this issue for a couple of weeks now, and
today I finally found a solution.

I have a document with some (very) wide table floats (which are also
long enough to fit the height of the 'portrait' page), resulting in
the table being centered wrt to the page margins and thus having the
right-side of the table running off the page. To deal with this, at
least one solution is to put the table itself (NOT the float) within a
'Box (Makebox)'. As you can see in the attached document, the table is
being centered with respect to the page itself, hence ignoring the
page margins. I haven't tested with figures, but I suspect that the
same trick would work with a figure float.

Although this solution is satisfactory as far as I'm concerned, it
took me an unnecessary amount of time to find it. So would there be a
nice way for our Float Settings to handle such cases? We already
have the very useful Float Settings Rotate Sideways, which allows
to set the float in 'landscape' orientation on a 'portrait' page. But
we do not help the user at all with relatively long tables (taking
much of the height of the portrait page) which are also very wide
(running off the right-hand side of the page).

Is the 'Box (Makebox)' solution optimal in this case? Can we add some
UI for users, or should this be made part of a module? If neither
makes sense, then we should probably document this use-case in our
docs and/or on the wiki (
http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/BigFigureOrTable ).

I think this is more for lyx-devel, no?

I agree that a solution would be nice. I proposed one here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177505.html

I've since learned that \centerline (which was my solution) is not
recommended by some LaTeX experts [1] so maybe your box solution is
better. As for the question of whether this should be built-in to LyX,
my opinion is that it should, but I understand other arguments also.

Scott

[1]
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=23988sid=0980db63d57427ede96349e1a9a36361p=81642#p81642
(and see the references in that post)

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
  On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 
  For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
  need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
  other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
  figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
  the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
  produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
 
  A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
 
  Bruce
 
 I second that.
 I've used LyX since its beginning.
 It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
 if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
 is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
 fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

Canned Beamer


Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.

Re: Canned Beamer

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM, gordon_cooper hughgord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
 Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?

It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary, while
recording your desktop with some video-recording software (on Linux,
http://alternativeto.net/software/gtk-recordmydesktop/ ). That would
yield a video of your Beamer presentation with audio track.

Liviu

Re: Canned Beamer


Thanks Liviu,
   Your reply confirms my thinking that Beamer
would need to be integrated into a recording system.

 I worked in this field years ago, when we made graphics by
pasting symbols on to a background, or drew them by hand.
Presentations were a sequence of 35mm slides, the sound
tape included an extra track with pulses to advance the
slides.  I have a piece of commercial software that does this
in video but it lacks the slide making abilities of Beamer.

More thinking, and some experimenting to do.

Gordon

On 27/10/13 09:37, Liviu Andronic wrote:

It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary...

Re: why people give up on open source software


On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:


I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
program for a platform now long gone.

But, as I wrote in
news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?


Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


Not the same situation, Steve.  In both examples, fixing my friend's 
skateboard bugs result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me 
something I can use.  :-)


If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's 
something I use but is broken.  When the bug is squashed, then I and 
everyone else has something they can use.



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Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.1.2

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ernesto Posse

Ken, you are not the one doing the fixing. The ones doing the fixing are
the ones deserving of gratitude and the ones doing the real work, far more
than the ones reporting the bugs. Reporting bugs (politely) is always
appreciated. Reporting bugs while insulting, and trashing the *volunteer*
work and demanding professionalism from those who are providing you with
a free product (developed for free), is not appreciated.

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me. But
I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
program for a platform now long gone.

But, as I wrote in
news://news.gmane.org:119/**l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.orghttp://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org,
if I help by
reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?

Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*
http://www.troubleshooters.**com/http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Not the same situation, Steve. In both examples, fixing my friend's
skateboard bugs result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me
something I can use. :-)

If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's something
I use but is broken. When the bug is squashed, then I and everyone else
has something they can use.

--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.1.2

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Modelling and Analysis in Software Engineering
School of Computing
Queen's University - Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Re: why people give up on open source software


On 10/26/13 1:25 PM, John Coppens wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:


But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org,
if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting
is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?


Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.


Same here.  I don't care about a public thanks, just squash the bug(s).  :-)


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.1.2

Problem using thesis template

2013-10-26 Thread fork

Hi all,

Is there a step-by-step guide to using the thesis template?  

I tried new from template with thesis, then rendering the document before 
changing anything.  I get undefined control sequence error.

I am using Lyx 2.0.4, and have to continue with it for various reasons. Also 
running FreeBSD.

Any thoughts?

Thanks to all!

Re: To Quit, or Not To Quit

2013-10-26 Thread Charlie

 On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:57:45 +1300 gordon_cooper
 hughgord...@gmail.com sent this:

Too many people merely click on the Reply button, resulting in posts
that are far too long.

I have to disagree.

I like to read the long repetitions and I am on an
Internet connection very slow and flaky, not dialup, but
indistinguishable from it, in most cases during the day.

On other information and help lists, people snip information they
think is unimportant because they know it, and something vital is
gone for those who don't.

If it's repetitious or boring to you in a thread you're following,
scroll past it. How hard can that be?

Just my opinion and way of doing. Realising we are all different.

Be well,
Charlie
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lyx- list group

2013-10-26 Thread Jaka Aminata

Dear Lyx Group,
Would you please make a mailing list  for me.
Thank you,
Jaka

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
 I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial 
 program for a platform now long gone.
 
 But, as I wrote in
 news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
 reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
 requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
 fixing the bug?

Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
   generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
  Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
  successful in the long run?
 
 It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
 although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 

LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
complete outline mode.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:28:44 +1300
Bryan Baldwin br...@katofiad.co.nz wrote:

 On 10/26/2013 02:08 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
  And that may be the origin of the problem, SINCE IN ALL CAPS IT IS
  PLAIN UNREADABLE AND THUS NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY READ IT.
 
 That's backwards. Its part of the solution. It doesn't matter if you
 read it or not, because it applies whether you read it or not.

It's also in upper case in the GPL2, so he was pretty much quoting it
(inexactly).

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Hal Kierstead


On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
 Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
 successful in the long run?
 
 It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
 although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 
 
 LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
 perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
 missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
 complete outline mode.
 
 Thanks,
 
 SteveT
 
 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
OK, I will take up the challenge.  I love LyX, and use it for everything, even 
my private notes, EXCEPT when collaborating.  Nobody else I work with uses it.  
Even if I write the first draft in LyX, and my coauthors do not change the 
front matter, I cannot convert their file to good LyX.  If this were possible I 
think my coauthors would be trying out LyX and quickly converting.  I cannot 
even get undergraduates or graduate students to give it a try.

I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the 
original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra 
data to insure the conversion.

Hal

Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not found?

Thanks 

uwe 


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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
 pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not 
 found?

It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
_minimal_ example displaying the issue.

Liviu


 Thanks

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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . Are 
there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
version is?
Thanks

uwe

Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello
 
 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
 put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
 not found?
 
 It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
 usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
 _minimal_ example displaying the issue.
 
 Liviu
 
 
 Thanks
 
 uwe
 
 
 
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Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Hal Kierstead
hal.kierst...@icloud.com wrote:

On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
successful in the long run?

It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance,
although at a frustratingly slow pace these days.

Thanks,

SteveT

Hi Hal,

I'm actually quite impressed and thankful that it works as well as it does.

The good news is that it's getting better with each release. The
following lists the fifteen bugs that will be fixed in LyX 2.1 related
to importing LaTeX:

I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the
original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra
data to insure the conversion.

In my opinion the best thing to do is to improve tex2lyx little by
little. If you find a bug, see if it's reported (look for component
tex2lyx) and if not please report it.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Scott

Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . 
 Are there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
 version is?

Try Insert  Float  Figure. (But I can't help with the exact German term.

Liviu


 Thanks

 uwe

 Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
 wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
 with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
 put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
 not found?

 It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
 usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
 _minimal_ example displaying the issue.

 Liviu


 Thanks

 uwe



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Re: how to center a wide table float

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've been battling with this issue for a couple of weeks now, and
today I finally found a solution.

I think this is more for lyx-devel, no?

I agree that a solution would be nice. I proposed one here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177505.html

Scott

[1]
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=23988sid=0980db63d57427ede96349e1a9a36361p=81642#p81642
(and see the references in that post)

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
  On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 
  For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
  need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
  other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
  figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
  the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
  produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
 
  A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
 
  Bruce
 
 I second that.
 I've used LyX since its beginning.
 It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
 if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
 is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
 fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

Canned Beamer


Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.

Re: Canned Beamer

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM, gordon_cooper hughgord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
 Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?

It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary, while
recording your desktop with some video-recording software (on Linux,
http://alternativeto.net/software/gtk-recordmydesktop/ ). That would
yield a video of your Beamer presentation with audio track.

Liviu

Re: Canned Beamer


Thanks Liviu,
   Your reply confirms my thinking that Beamer
would need to be integrated into a recording system.

 I worked in this field years ago, when we made graphics by
pasting symbols on to a background, or drew them by hand.
Presentations were a sequence of 35mm slides, the sound
tape included an extra track with pulses to advance the
slides.  I have a piece of commercial software that does this
in video but it lacks the slide making abilities of Beamer.

More thinking, and some experimenting to do.

Gordon

On 27/10/13 09:37, Liviu Andronic wrote:

It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary...

Re: why people give up on open source software


On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:


I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
program for a platform now long gone.

But, as I wrote in
news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?


Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


Not the same situation, Steve.  In both examples, fixing my friend's 
skateboard bugs result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me 
something I can use.  :-)


If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's 
something I use but is broken.  When the bug is squashed, then I and 
everyone else has something they can use.



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Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ernesto Posse

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me. But
I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
program for a platform now long gone.

Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
reporting a bug:

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a thank you. #2 garners what a douchebag!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*
http://www.troubleshooters.**com/http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Not the same situation, Steve. In both examples, fixing my friend's
skateboard bugs result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me
something I can use. :-)

If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's something
I use but is broken. When the bug is squashed, then I and everyone else
has something they can use.

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Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
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School of Computing
Queen's University - Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Re: why people give up on open source software


On 10/26/13 1:25 PM, John Coppens wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:


But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org,
if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting
is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?


Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.


Same here.  I don't care about a public thanks, just squash the bug(s).  :-)


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Problem using thesis template

2013-10-26 Thread fork

Hi all,

Is there a step-by-step guide to using the thesis template?  

I tried new from template with thesis, then rendering the document before 
changing anything.  I get undefined control sequence error.

I am using Lyx 2.0.4, and have to continue with it for various reasons. Also 
running FreeBSD.

Any thoughts?

Thanks to all!

Re: To Quit, or Not To Quit

2013-10-26 Thread Charlie

 On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:57:45 +1300 "gordon_cooper
 hughgord...@gmail.com" sent this:

>Too many people merely click on the Reply button, resulting in posts
>that are far too long.

I have to disagree.

I like to read the "long repetitions" and I am on an
Internet connection very slow and flaky, not dialup, but
indistinguishable from it, in most cases during the day.

On other information and help lists, people  information they
think is unimportant because they know it, and something vital is
gone for those who don't.

If it's repetitious or boring to you in a thread you're following,
scroll past it. How hard can that be?

Just my opinion and way of doing. Realising we are all different.

Be well,
Charlie
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lyx- list group

2013-10-26 Thread Jaka Aminata

Dear Lyx Group,
Would you please make a mailing list  for me.
Thank you,
Jaka

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer  wrote:

> I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
> I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial 
> program for a platform now long gone.
> 
> But, as I wrote in
> news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
> reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
> requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
> fixing the bug?

Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
"reporting a bug":

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
   generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a "thank you." #2 garners "what a douchebag!"

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:

> 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
> > Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
> > successful in the long run?
> 
> It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
> although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 

LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
complete outline mode.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:28:44 +1300
Bryan Baldwin  wrote:

> On 10/26/2013 02:08 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > And that may be the origin of the problem, SINCE IN ALL CAPS IT IS
> > PLAIN UNREADABLE AND THUS NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY READ IT.
> 
> That's backwards. Its part of the solution. It doesn't matter if you
> read it or not, because it applies whether you read it or not.

It's also in upper case in the GPL2, so he was pretty much quoting it
(inexactly).

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Hal Kierstead


On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt  wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:
> 
>> 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
>>> Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
>>> successful in the long run?
>> 
>> It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance, 
>> although at a frustratingly slow pace these days. 
> 
> LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
> perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
> missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
> complete outline mode.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
OK, I will take up the challenge.  I love LyX, and use it for everything, even 
my private notes, EXCEPT when collaborating.  Nobody else I work with uses it.  
Even if I write the first draft in LyX, and my coauthors do not change the 
front matter, I cannot convert their file to good LyX.  If this were possible I 
think my coauthors would be trying out LyX and quickly converting.  I cannot 
even get undergraduates or graduate students to give it a try.

I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the 
original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra 
data to insure the conversion.

Hal

Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not found?

Thanks 

uwe 


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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade  wrote:
> Hello
>
> im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
> wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
> with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to put 
> pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have not 
> found?
>
It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
_minimal_ example displaying the issue.

Liviu


> Thanks
>
> uwe



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Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

Hello 

sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . Are 
there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
version is?
Thanks

uwe

Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic :

> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade  wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
>> wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
>> with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
>> put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
>> not found?
>> 
> It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
> usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
> _minimal_ example displaying the issue.
> 
> Liviu
> 
> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> uwe
> 
> 
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Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Hal Kierstead
 wrote:
>
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Steve Litt  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:13 +0200
>> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:
>>
>>> 25/10/2013 02:37, Ken Springer:
 Just a question, does viable equate something that will be
 successful in the long run?
>>>
>>> It is already successful. We have users, LyX continues to advance,
>>> although at a frustratingly slow pace these days.
>>
>> LOL, how can you expect fast advances when the LyX pretty much became
>> perfect in 2004? I mean, really, name me one serious thing it's
>> missing. At this point we're down to more efficient hotkeys and a more
>> complete outline mode.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
>> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
> OK, I will take up the challenge.  I love LyX, and use it for everything, 
> even my private notes, EXCEPT when collaborating.  Nobody else I work with 
> uses it.  Even if I write the first draft in LyX, and my coauthors do not 
> change the front matter, I cannot convert their file to good LyX.  If this 
> were possible I think my coauthors would be trying out LyX and quickly 
> converting.  I cannot even get undergraduates or graduate students to give it 
> a try.

Hi Hal,

This is a common request and I understand your frustration. It would
be great if LyX were able to perfectly import LaTeX. I would like to
see this and I have the impression that many developers would like to
see this. The reason that importing LaTeX into LyX is far from perfect
is simply that it's hard. It's very hard to parse LaTeX because of all
of the possible commands and packages.

I'm actually quite impressed and thankful that it works as well as it does.

The good news is that it's getting better with each release. The
following lists the fifteen bugs that will be fixed in LyX 2.1 related
to importing LaTeX:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/query?status=accepted=assigned=new=reopened=~=~=tex2lyx=~=~fixedintrunk=id=summary=keywords=reporter=status=type=severity=1=id

> I should at least be able to convert tex files produced by LyX back into the 
> original version of LyX, even if it takes some ugly hacks like adding extra 
> data to insure the conversion.

I can see where you're coming from but I personally don't agree with
this. I never think ugly hacks are the answer. And even if this were
done, maybe things would work better if your coauthors did not change
any single LaTeX command and only changed the text, but the moment
they change one thing (even adding a simple \textbf), this can be a
huge deal to the parser and not even ugly hacks will save us there.

I don't know of the following analogy is good, but I'm going to throw
it out there anyway. Think about a linguistic language translator.
Translating is difficult. Google translator does an incredible job in
my opinion, but even then there is no round trip. (The following is a
little OT but it works within the analogy so I'm going with it.) In
response to many who think that the goal of LyX developers is for
everyone to use LyX, I don't think the answer is to try to convert
everyone to speak English. Multilingualism is great and the world
would be pretty boring if everyone spoke the same language.

In my opinion the best thing to do is to improve tex2lyx little by
little. If you find a bug, see if it's reported (look for component
tex2lyx) and if not please report it.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Scott

Re: Grafik in Beamer slides

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Uwe Ade  wrote:
> Hello
>
> sorry Iam no native englisch speaker. I don´t understand „put in a float“ . 
> Are there a german speaking reader, who can say which menu this in the german 
> version is?
>
Try Insert > Float > Figure. (But I can't help with the exact German term.

Liviu


> Thanks
>
> uwe
>
> Am 26.10.2013 um 20:40 schrieb Liviu Andronic :
>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Uwe Ade  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> im using Beamer to show my work. Presenting Text and getting a Toc works 
>>> wonderful. But i had some problems to put pictures in my slides. I Searched 
>>> with google but i found no good solution. Are there a good (right) way to 
>>> put pictures in Beamerslides? Is there anywhere a good Instruction i have 
>>> not found?
>>>
>> It's quite simple: just put in a float, within it a graphic, as you
>> usually do in LyX. Doesn't this work for you? If not, please provide a
>> _minimal_ example displaying the issue.
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> uwe
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: how to center a wide table float

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> Dear all,
> I've been battling with this issue for a couple of weeks now, and
> today I finally found a solution.
>
> I have a document with some (very) wide table floats (which are also
> long enough to fit the height of the 'portrait' page), resulting in
> the table being centered wrt to the page margins and thus having the
> right-side of the table running off the page. To deal with this, at
> least one solution is to put the table itself (NOT the float) within a
> 'Box (Makebox)'. As you can see in the attached document, the table is
> being centered with respect to the page itself, hence ignoring the
> page margins. I haven't tested with figures, but I suspect that the
> same trick would work with a figure float.
>
> Although this solution is satisfactory as far as I'm concerned, it
> took me an unnecessary amount of time to find it. So would there be a
> nice way for our Float > Settings to handle such cases? We already
> have the very useful Float > Settings > Rotate Sideways, which allows
> to set the float in 'landscape' orientation on a 'portrait' page. But
> we do not help the user at all with relatively long tables (taking
> much of the height of the portrait page) which are also very wide
> (running off the right-hand side of the page).
>
> Is the 'Box (Makebox)' solution optimal in this case? Can we add some
> UI for users, or should this be made part of a module? If neither
> makes sense, then we should probably document this use-case in our
> docs and/or on the wiki (
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/BigFigureOrTable ).

I think this is more for lyx-devel, no?

I agree that a solution would be nice. I proposed one here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg177505.html

I've since learned that "\centerline" (which was my solution) is not
recommended by some LaTeX experts [1] so maybe your box solution is
better. As for the question of whether this should be built-in to LyX,
my opinion is that it should, but I understand other arguments also.

Scott

[1] 
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=23988=0980db63d57427ede96349e1a9a36361=81642#p81642
(and see the references in that post)

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman  wrote:

> On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >
> >
> > For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
> > need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
> > other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
> > figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
> > the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
> > produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
> >
> > A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> I second that.
> I've used LyX since its beginning.
> It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer  wrote:

> But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
> if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
> is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
> fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

"Canned" Beamer


Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.

Re: "Canned" Beamer

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM, gordon_cooper  wrote:
> Has anybody used slide sequences produced with
> Beamer in conjunction with a recorded audio track?
>
It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary, while
recording your desktop with some video-recording software (on Linux,
http://alternativeto.net/software/gtk-recordmydesktop/ ). That would
yield a video of your Beamer presentation with audio track.

Liviu

Re: "Canned" Beamer


Thanks Liviu,
   Your reply confirms my thinking that Beamer
would need to be integrated into a recording system.

 I worked in this field years ago, when we made graphics by
pasting symbols on to a background, or drew them by hand.
Presentations were a sequence of 35mm slides, the sound
tape included an extra track with pulses to advance the
slides.  I have a piece of commercial software that does this
in video but it lacks the slide making abilities of Beamer.

More thinking, and some experimenting to do.

Gordon

On 27/10/13 09:37, Liviu Andronic wrote:

It would be possible, I suppose, to create the Beamer presentation,
then display it full-screen and make some audio commentary...

Re: why people give up on open source software


On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer  wrote:


I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
program for a platform now long gone.

But, as I wrote in
news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by
reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
fixing the bug?


Depends.

Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
"reporting a bug":

1) I think you need to bend your knees more.

2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.

#1 garners a "thank you." #2 garners "what a douchebag!"

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


Not the same situation, Steve.  In both examples, fixing my friend's 
skateboard "bugs" result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me 
something I can use.  :-)


If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's 
something I use but is broken.  When the bug is squashed, then I and 
everyone else has something they can use.



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.1.2

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ernesto Posse

Ken, you are not the one doing the fixing. The ones doing the fixing are
the ones deserving of gratitude and the ones doing the real work, far more
than the ones reporting the bugs. Reporting bugs (politely) is always
appreciated. Reporting bugs while insulting, and trashing the *volunteer*
work and demanding "professionalism" from those who are providing you with
a free product (developed for free), is not appreciated.



On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Ken Springer  wrote:

> On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
>> Ken Springer  wrote:
>>
>>  I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me.  But
>>> I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial
>>> program for a platform now long gone.
>>>
>>> But, as I wrote in
>>> news://news.gmane.org:119/**l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org,
>>> if I help by
>>> reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is
>>> requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by
>>> fixing the bug?
>>>
>>
>> Depends.
>>
>> Imagine a buddy, who is a skateboarder, asking you for a critique of
>> his style while doing tricks. Both of the following could be considered
>> "reporting a bug":
>>
>> 1) I think you need to bend your knees more.
>>
>> 2) No wonder you're always losing contests, falling down, and just
>> generally screwing up. Your knees are straight. How unprofessional.
>>
>> #1 garners a "thank you." #2 garners "what a douchebag!"
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt*  
>> http://www.troubleshooters.**com/
>> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
>>
>
> Not the same situation, Steve.  In both examples, fixing my friend's
> skateboard "bugs" result in a feature of his skateboarding that gives me
> something I can use.  :-)
>
> If I report a bug in a piece of software, fairly obviously it's something
> I use but is broken.  When the bug is squashed, then I and everyone else
> has something they can use.
>
>
>
> --
> Ken
>
> Mac OS X 10.8.5
> Firefox 24.0
> Thunderbird 17.0.8
> LibreOffice 4.1.1.2
>
>


-- 
Ernesto Posse

Modelling and Analysis in Software Engineering
School of Computing
Queen's University - Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Re: why people give up on open source software