bible from you version
hi to all do others find the menu in you version is not consistently readings tin voiceover? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
I'm considering buying a MACBook Air and getting the one on one training with it since there's a store near me. I thought using the training sessions for Pages/Numbers would be worth the effort. I'd have to work with the trainer around the VoiceOver issues, but at least they could help me understand the basic principles. It'd be vastly helpful to have a knowledgeable sighted assistant during the iWork learning curve I think. What do you think? - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: RE: iWork programs and accessibility There is a desperate need for structured work to be done on building up knowledge of Mac productivity software so that a Visually Impaired person can fruitfully access it. There should be getting Started guides to pages, Numbers, Key Note etc. These could then be usefully supported with audio tutorials giving walk through of essential tasks. All the current guides I have seen assume you have sight. At the moment the visually impaired user base Resources on Mac seems more concentrated on advanced Music/ creative products rather than serious advanced Office Productivity. Basic word processing is fine but as you are finding moving beyond this to spreadsheets and more advance usage is a massive learning curve. I have had the identical problems that you are experiencing. Ideally it would be useful for Apple to produce more than chapter 7 of the Voiceover guide on applications. Alternatively organisation like the RNIB should be doing more to increase the expertise in utilising or work arounding the issue to enhance Mac productivity for visually impaired users. This has happened in the USA where Visual Impairment charities produced Getting Started with the iPhone but there is a yawning chasm of a gap in the market where there is zilch support for Visually impaired users using the Mac. I guess this is chicken and egg. The Mac users of office productivity is small compared to the iPhone. This is likely to continue whilst the organisations do not support Mac access solutions. Listening to the interview on Blind Bargains recently it appears that organisation like the RNIB are focussing on Windows and NVDA for investment in Access for their user base. This is understandable but I wish they widened their horizons beyond Windows. We need proper in depth guides to intermediate / advanced use of Mac Productivity . I think this is quite tough to expect visually Impaired people to pull themselves all up individually by their bootstraps. There needs to be a proper structured project which builds tutorials on a number of tasks using Iworks, probably initially investigated with sighted assistance until procedures to complete tasks without sighted help are formulated. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: 06 March 2013 01:23 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iWork programs and accessibility hi, I have both pages and numbers. I have been disappointed with numbers because several of the shortcut keys have not worked for me. for example, I had some XLS files that numbers opened up fine, and I could read the first sheet of data, but the command to move from sheet to sheet has not worked for me.there were other shortcut keys in the help file that also would not work for me. I found pages to be very complex too learn, but this could simply be due to the fact that I am a new Mac user. I also constantly received busy messages from both aps, but now that I just got more memory installed, perhaps this will no longer happen. must check into that. my two cents. Cathy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
Hello Phil, I wish you luck with the one-to-one training, but I fear the trainer will not be familiar enough with VoiceOver to understand how to manage iWork. You have to do a lot of interacting and bringing the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor and doing a simulated mouse click. It all sounds very complicated but it's really quite easy once you get used to it. I use Pages regularly in my work as a translator, and I use Numbers for very simple spreadsheets. I've also used Keynote and it's pretty accessible. Hotspots are very useful in iWork and its advisable to hide as many objects in the window as possible to reduce the clutter. Cheers, Anne On 6 Mar 2013, at 15:58, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm considering buying a MACBook Air and getting the one on one training with it since there's a store near me. I thought using the training sessions for Pages/Numbers would be worth the effort. I'd have to work with the trainer around the VoiceOver issues, but at least they could help me understand the basic principles. It'd be vastly helpful to have a knowledgeable sighted assistant during the iWork learning curve I think. What do you think? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Getting into safe mode
Good morning, is this a free app? And I'm kind of confused on the name… Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: For a good app to remove all those associated files, along with the app you want to install, I'd highly recommend Reggie Ashworth's App Delete. It works very well, and is nice and accessible with VO. On 2013-03-04, at 5:45 PM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi George You'll might find what your searching for under the Login Items in the User an Groups section of System Preferences. James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Skype and msn problem
Hi, When I sign in I am placed in the skype home. how do I tell skype to place me in the contact list at sign in? I am using skype 6.2. Matthew On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:22 PM, michael wrote: Hi Matthew wen i log in my skype comes up and i am in the contact list already I just arrow down. But thing I hate is from the list it tells me if my skype contacts are on line.but my msn ones it does not say their on or off line. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:29 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem Hi yes I did. all is working now. I do how ever have one question. How do i tell skype to go strate to my contacts rather than the skype home? It is quite anoing. Thanks. Matthew On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, michael wrote: Have you actually merged skype too msn. I took a few times to get mine working. I had to install the WE script to read other options for skype. cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:40 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Skype and msn problem Hi all, I have a problem with skype not staying signed in to msn fpor mpore than a few seconds. If I try to sign in to msn through skype it just signs me rite back out again. Any ideas on why tthis might be happening? Thanks. Matthew --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do
How do I perform this drag and drop needed to complete this work flow
Hello to all. In the below article you see a work flow that could work, except I can't drag and fro the veritable from the table to the ware section of the text action I added. Link is below. Tc all. http://www.macworld.com/article/1151236/createnewfileservice.html --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
Hi Josh, Pages is a wonderful application, though there are some serious limitations to what can be achieved with VoiceOver. At present, VO cannot see lists, footnotes or tables. It cannot also see headings in a document. It treats any heading as a piece of text. James On 5 Mar 2013, at 17:52, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Pages seems okay, I just bought it yesterday and I haven't had a chance to really delve into it yet, But from what I've seen of it it seems fairly accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Hi gang: How accessible is Pages, Keynote, and Numbers? Thanks all over the place. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
Oh wow. I'm surprised apple has not yet fixed this and pages has been out for how long now? Tc all. On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:33 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh, Pages is a wonderful application, though there are some serious limitations to what can be achieved with VoiceOver. At present, VO cannot see lists, footnotes or tables. It cannot also see headings in a document. It treats any heading as a piece of text. James On 5 Mar 2013, at 17:52, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Pages seems okay, I just bought it yesterday and I haven't had a chance to really delve into it yet, But from what I've seen of it it seems fairly accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Hi gang: How accessible is Pages, Keynote, and Numbers? Thanks all over the place. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
MAC Air opinions?
I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting started Guides was Re: iWork programs andaccessibility
I'd be happy to see such a guide for pages from a VO perspective, no matter how rudimentary. Word processing and spreadsheeting has been the one stumbling block in my desire to switch over to MAC from the PC world. I plan to purchase Pages soon, and maybe a MAC Air so I can access the nearby Apple store's one to One training and perhaps get solid on Pages/Numbers through them. - Original Message - From: JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Creating Getting started Guides was Re: iWork programs andaccessibility Hi David, You're absolutely right. I have often thought of doing something and have started several times. However, working full-time makes this sort of thing very difficult. It needs a collaborative effort. Moreover, it does not seem that Apple are making progress in the iWork area as we have not seen a significant update for it in nearly 4 years. Also, there are just some things that VoiceOver cannot do in Pages at the moment, such as lists and footnotes and of course, tables. I would be very happy to try to write something along the Getting Started… lines but as i say it would have to be a collaborative effort I think. What do people think? James On 6 Mar 2013, at 13:25, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: There is a desperate need for structured work to be done on building up knowledge of Mac productivity software so that a Visually Impaired person can fruitfully access it. There should be getting Started guides to pages, Numbers, Key Note etc. These could then be usefully supported with audio tutorials giving walk through of essential tasks. All the current guides I have seen assume you have sight. At the moment the visually impaired user base Resources on Mac seems more concentrated on advanced Music/ creative products rather than serious advanced Office Productivity. Basic word processing is fine but as you are finding moving beyond this to spreadsheets and more advance usage is a massive learning curve. I have had the identical problems that you are experiencing. Ideally it would be useful for Apple to produce more than chapter 7 of the Voiceover guide on applications. Alternatively organisation like the RNIB should be doing more to increase the expertise in utilising or work arounding the issue to enhance Mac productivity for visually impaired users. This has happened in the USA where Visual Impairment charities produced Getting Started with the iPhone but there is a yawning chasm of a gap in the market where there is zilch support for Visually impaired users using the Mac. I guess this is chicken and egg. The Mac users of office productivity is small compared to the iPhone. This is likely to continue whilst the organisations do not support Mac access solutions. Listening to the interview on Blind Bargains recently it appears that organisation like the RNIB are focussing on Windows and NVDA for investment in Access for their user base. This is understandable but I wish they widened their horizons beyond Windows. We need proper in depth guides to intermediate / advanced use of Mac Productivity . I think this is quite tough to expect visually Impaired people to pull themselves all up individually by their bootstraps. There needs to be a proper structured project which builds tutorials on a number of tasks using Iworks, probably initially investigated with sighted assistance until procedures to complete tasks without sighted help are formulated. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: 06 March 2013 01:23 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iWork programs and accessibility hi, I have both pages and numbers. I have been disappointed with numbers because several of the shortcut keys have not worked for me. for example, I had some XLS files that numbers opened up fine, and I could read the first sheet of data, but the command to move from sheet to sheet has not worked for me.there were other shortcut keys in the help file that also would not work for me. I found pages to be very complex too learn, but this could simply be due to the fact that I am a new Mac user. I also constantly received busy messages from both aps, but now that I just got more memory installed, perhaps this will no longer happen. must check into that. my two cents. Cathy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
I've expressed my concerns about VoiceOver to the local apple training rep, and they have a few folks here locally who are familiar with VO, at least to some extent. I know I'll have to bridge the gap between the sighted and VO interfaces and synthesize the information for myself. But, having a sighted assistant who knows both VO and Pages can't help but be a good springboard - perhaps the best and only one I'll ever see. - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:19 AM Subject: Re: iWork programs and accessibility Hello Phil, I wish you luck with the one-to-one training, but I fear the trainer will not be familiar enough with VoiceOver to understand how to manage iWork. You have to do a lot of interacting and bringing the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor and doing a simulated mouse click. It all sounds very complicated but it's really quite easy once you get used to it. I use Pages regularly in my work as a translator, and I use Numbers for very simple spreadsheets. I've also used Keynote and it's pretty accessible. Hotspots are very useful in iWork and its advisable to hide as many objects in the window as possible to reduce the clutter. Cheers, Anne On 6 Mar 2013, at 15:58, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm considering buying a MACBook Air and getting the one on one training with it since there's a store near me. I thought using the training sessions for Pages/Numbers would be worth the effort. I'd have to work with the trainer around the VoiceOver issues, but at least they could help me understand the basic principles. It'd be vastly helpful to have a knowledgeable sighted assistant during the iWork learning curve I think. What do you think? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Hello Phil, I have a MacBook Air with similar specifications, except that mine has an older processor and dates from 2011. It's a lovely fast little machine and my favourite of all the Macs I've owned. Cheers, Anne On 6 Mar 2013, at 18:37, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Yeah I would think that's ok. but I don't know much about the new processors. You might want to upgrade 5o 8 in case you do have to do any power work and so your machine wont' have to work as hard. Take care. On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iWork programs and accessibility
Thank you anne I'd forgoten about the former and did not know about the latter. Hope you're both well. James On 6 Mar 2013, at 17:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: You can actually read tables in pages with VO using one of two methods. There is a command to convert the table to text in the Format menu but you have to locate the table first. The other method is to select the table, then open the inspector, select Wrap, Then, in the object placement section choose floating. The table then shows up as an additional item on the page and you can edit it. As for Apple doing something about Pages accessibility, I've been pestering for years about this and not much has changed. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Thanks Ann, I think Mountain Lion itself takes up about 30 GB or more, so, a 128 GB flash should leave more than ample disk space even with a 30-40GB dropbox account. - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: Re: MAC Air opinions? Hello Phil, I have a MacBook Air with similar specifications, except that mine has an older processor and dates from 2011. It's a lovely fast little machine and my favourite of all the Macs I've owned. Cheers, Anne On 6 Mar 2013, at 18:37, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Hello Phil, ML takes up only about 14 gb. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Hi That should be more than sufficient computing power. Having said that you might want to wait for the MacBook Air refresh. These will most likely come with fourth-generation Intel processors. Kind regards, MR. Sadam ahmed. Mobile: 0435892944 Skype: Sadamahmed1992 -- Sent from my iPhone. On 07/03/2013, at 5:57 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, ML takes up only about 14 gb. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Thanks so much Ian, that would be great Plesae write me off-list On 6 Mar 2013, at 18:48, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Hi, For what you want to do with your mac you should be fine. Matthew On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Phil Halton wrote: I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
HiPhil I have the 11 inch Air and love it. I think you will have enough power. Janet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, I have a MacBook Air with similar specifications, except that mine has an older processor and dates from 2011. It's a lovely fast little machine and my favourite of all the Macs I've owned. Cheers, Anne On 6 Mar 2013, at 18:37, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I'm seriously considering purchasing a MAC Air 11 inch with the only upgrade being a 128 flash drive from the default 64 GB flash drive. It has: 1.7 I5 processor 4GB 1600 MHZ ram 128GB flash drive My questions: is this sufficient to do basic internet, mail etc plus iWork apps like Pages and Numbers? or, do I need a ram upgrade to 8GB? I'm not looking for a power machine, just something to do basic stuff plus simple word processing and spreadsheet during travel. the 13 inch has a 1.8 I5 processor with upgrades to I7 series, but I'm not yet convinced that is necessary for my needs. Any thoughts or ideas, educated or otherwise welcome. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Of course I'd like such a guide, I'd even be happy to pay a little. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi Phil Let's see if it works first, money is not my motive but taht is very kind thank you. On 6 Mar 2013, at 21:52, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I'd like such a guide, I'd even be happy to pay a little. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
a cursory search for Macbook air refresh yields results of a refres dated june 2011. Is there something new coming down the pipeline? - Original Message - From: Sadam Ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: MAC Air opinions? Hi That should be more than sufficient computing power. Having said that you might want to wait for the MacBook Air refresh. These will most likely come with fourth-generation Intel processors. Kind regards, MR. Sadam ahmed. Mobile: 0435892944 Skype: Sadamahmed1992 -- Sent from my iPhone. On 07/03/2013, at 5:57 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, ML takes up only about 14 gb. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi, I'd really appreciate if you had the time to do this. I took delivery of my new macbook air last week and know nothing about how to use it. Thanks. Brian. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi everyone, Well there seems to be a fair amount of interest in this, so (takes a deep breath) I'll try to devise something. Please bare with me though folks as this is a big undertaking and will need to fit around my other commitments. I am not making excuses nor am I making promises, just being honest. I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on list who have offered help. Be assured that I will certainly need it. Finally, I doubt that this will be anything like the polished masterpieces that Take Control are known for. Watch this space, no promises but I am certainly happy to try. Take care James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
I think that is what was meant, yes. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: a cursory search for Macbook air refresh yields results of a refres dated june 2011. Is there something new coming down the pipeline? - Original Message - From: Sadam Ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: MAC Air opinions? Hi That should be more than sufficient computing power. Having said that you might want to wait for the MacBook Air refresh. These will most likely come with fourth-generation Intel processors. Kind regards, MR. Sadam ahmed. Mobile: 0435892944 Skype: Sadamahmed1992 -- Sent from my iPhone. On 07/03/2013, at 5:57 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, ML takes up only about 14 gb. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MAC Air opinions?
Hi Nothing has been announced by Apple Officially. But as the fourth-generation Intel processors will be released in July of this year it's a safe bet to assume the refresh is imminent. But with this company you never know. If you have the cash right now feel free to purchase. The MacBook Air is a fantastic computer and this generation has some excellent improvements. Kind regards, MR. Sadam ahmed. Mobile: 0435892944 Skype: Sadamahmed1992 -- Sent from my iPhone. On 07/03/2013, at 9:02 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: a cursory search for Macbook air refresh yields results of a refres dated june 2011. Is there something new coming down the pipeline? - Original Message - From: Sadam Ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: MAC Air opinions? Hi That should be more than sufficient computing power. Having said that you might want to wait for the MacBook Air refresh. These will most likely come with fourth-generation Intel processors. Kind regards, MR. Sadam ahmed. Mobile: 0435892944 Skype: Sadamahmed1992 -- Sent from my iPhone. On 07/03/2013, at 5:57 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, ML takes up only about 14 gb. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Thanks James. Look forward to reading whatever you come up with. I'm sure it will be very helpful. On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:46 PM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi everyone, Well there seems to be a fair amount of interest in this, so (takes a deep breath) I'll try to devise something. Please bare with me though folks as this is a big undertaking and will need to fit around my other commitments. I am not making excuses nor am I making promises, just being honest. I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on list who have offered help. Be assured that I will certainly need it. Finally, I doubt that this will be anything like the polished masterpieces that Take Control are known for. Watch this space, no promises but I am certainly happy to try. Take care James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Product keys
I hope you realise that Office is completely inaccessible with Voiceover on the Mac? If you did not and you contact the vendor before installing you may be able to negotiate a refund. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham Sent: 06 March 2013 23:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Product keys I've just bought and have registered my microsoft office 11. My question is, where on the Mac is my product key stord? Typed with Fleksy reply://george.c...@outlook.com George, Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Product keys
Yes I know, will be using zoom without VoiceOver. George, Sent from my iPad On 07/03/2013, at 11:12 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I hope you realise that Office is completely inaccessible with Voiceover on the Mac? If you did not and you contact the vendor before installing you may be able to negotiate a refund. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham Sent: 06 March 2013 23:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Product keys I've just bought and have registered my microsoft office 11. My question is, where on the Mac is my product key stord? Typed with Fleksy reply://george.c...@outlook.com George, Sent from my iPad --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
If you are new to the Mac and it is It the basics you are after then never fear there are already loads of resources out there. I would recommend David Woodbridge's Vision Australia podcasts on using the Mac. Chapter 7 of the Getting started with voiceover guide will also take you through the basics of using applications like Mail etc. Apple Vis is also a good source of help. The big gap is not help for beginners, there is loads of stuff out there for that. The gap is for the next level up for intermediate/ advanced for which there is virtually nothing on the Office productivity side. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Brian Dalton Sent: 06 March 2013 22:18 To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi, I'd really appreciate if you had the time to do this. I took delivery of my new macbook air last week and know nothing about how to use it. Thanks. Brian. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
This would be a demanding but important project if you can pull it off. If you are to do this I think you should concentrate on where the current gaps are. There is no use spending time going over basics that others have already done though you could reference for example the vision Australia podcasts in whatever you produce so people could consult them if needed. I would suggest a number of real world projects as walk throughs. So for example . using Pages to produce an Academic Report. This would not need to include basics like formatting selected text but would perhaps cover. 1 Choosing an appropriate template. 2. Customising Formatting of Margins as necessary. 3. Developing Header Styles. 4. Page numbering and formatting of page numbering styles. 5. Header and footer insertions and navigating to Header and footer to read information with VO. 5.b. Footnote insertion and footnote reading. 6. Strategies for coping with VO and Mac awkwardness with Tables. 7. Spell checking effectively. 8. using a dictionary with college work. 9. using a thesaurus with college projects. 10. Doing grammar checks. 11. Any strategies you could think of to replicate Text analyser function in Windows Screenreaders which identify proofing anomalies. 12. general proof reading tips - for example doing global find and replace of double spaces, replace all space full stop with full stops etc so work looks Ok for sighted reader. 13. using the word Count in document Inspector. 14. familiarisation with Document Inspector generally. 15. having a save as capacity with duplicate file creation. 16. table of Content creation. I am not sure if Pages can automate this in the same way as Microsoft Word but I hope that it can. 17. Automated Index creation, I am again not sure if Pages can do this , if not then perhaps investigate what program can do these things. 18. Managing hyperlinks for referencing purposes in documents. 19. Listing keyboard shortcuts for things like force new page. 20 . Adjusting line spacing, hopefully fine adjustment. I have to produce work in for example, 1.15 line spacing, that is just over single but below 1.5 line spacing. 21 . Inserting diagrams / flow charts/ organisation charts. This can be done accessibly with Word and Project working on the Windows platform. What is the accessible Mac Equivalent? 22. controlling Printing - print in reverse order, print collated documents etc. There are probably loads more things but this would perhaps get you started on Pages. A similar list could be created for Numbers. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should
Re: Skype and msn problem
Hi Matthew I do not have any skype credits and mine just comes up in the contacts list. 1 thing is after i started skype a couple of times i just pressed tab a few times and i heard a message saying yes or no it did not give me any other ingomation. So i just clicked yes to it and maybe it is why mine loads up to contacts. cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:37 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem Hi, When I sign in I am placed in the skype home. how do I tell skype to place me in the contact list at sign in? I am using skype 6.2. Matthew On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:22 PM, michael wrote: Hi Matthew wen i log in my skype comes up and i am in the contact list already I just arrow down. But thing I hate is from the list it tells me if my skype contacts are on line.but my msn ones it does not say their on or off line. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:29 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem Hi yes I did. all is working now. I do how ever have one question. How do i tell skype to go strate to my contacts rather than the skype home? It is quite anoing. Thanks. Matthew On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, michael wrote: Have you actually merged skype too msn. I took a few times to get mine working. I had to install the WE script to read other options for skype. cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:40 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Skype and msn problem Hi all, I have a problem with skype not staying signed in to msn fpor mpore than a few seconds. If I try to sign in to msn through skype it just signs me rite back out again. Any ideas on why tthis might be happening? Thanks. Matthew --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of
