Re: [maemo-users] new 770 hardware instead of software update to add VOIP?

2006-05-14 Thread Andrew Barr
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 15:33 -0500, Kasper Souren wrote:
> Isn't that normal with these kind of gadgets? If you care about that
> you should never buy any hardware.

It is normal, but the period of time we are talking about here is short
even for consumer electronics.

I don't care if they come out with new Maemo hardware, I do care if they
don't support both (or all) models/revisions fully--this tends to happen
after several iterations of hardware with most stuff. Fortunately, the
Maemo/Nokia 770 will probably end up being very different due to the
openness of the whole thing.

Anyway, evidently the idea of new hardware has been debunked already:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.maemo.user/1137

Regards,
Andrew Barr


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Re: [maemo-users] new 770 hardware instead of software update to add VOIP?

2006-05-14 Thread Kasper Souren

I would not be pleased to find I shelled out $400 for a device that has
been supplanted in just a few months.


Isn't that normal with these kind of gadgets? If you care about that
you should never buy any hardware.

I would actually be pleased to see a new version with a faster CPU and
some more memory And possibly a nornal SD slot.
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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hi,


Despite Maemo being an Open Source project, not everything can be done in

the open.
Sorry but I don't understand this...
I would call myself a lousy developer  but even I was able to build
myself jamvm+classpath including a dirty hack in classpath's gtk code
to make swing work. I don't develop in C nore have I used scrachbox
before.


I've been acting as the bridge between Maemo and Classpath

Yeah, well but what have you _done_ except of posting on the lists and
talking with maintainers . In fact the only mails you wrote are "it
does not work, please work on this and that".


I can't help but wonder what are your hidden interests in this.

Well I was just a bit angry about the flood of useless mails in my inbox ;)


Assuming you are honest, please realize your very limited perspective and
stop bothering me with your complaints, and stop assuming they interest
the whole world.

My perspective may be limited, I just wonder why you waste so much
time writing mails to other guys asking them to do the stuff you would
like to see.
You still did not answer my question, what have _you done_ in terms of
writing code? Or why do you hestitate so much writing code?

Sorry for making you feel sad, lg Clemens
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Re: [maemo-users] Regional and Locale - Adding / Changing

2006-05-14 Thread Amichai Rotman
Thank you!
 
Could you be more specific? 
 
I am a complete newbie
 
Thanks. 
On 5/8/06, Mohammad Anwari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Pada hari Selasa, tanggal 02/05/2006 pukul 14:08 +0200, ext AmichaiRotman menulis:> Hi Friends, 
>> I have a Nokia 770 and I live in Israel. I would like to change the> regional settings to Israel (it shows up under /usr/share/zoneinfo -> but not on the regions list) and I would also like to add the HE 
> locale - ISO8859-1 - under the /usr/lib/locale hierarchy>> Can it be done?Yes, as long as you are using localedef which comes with the sameversion number of the libc available in the device as libc stores an 
identifier (a magic number) in the locale data, and if it thinks thatthe locale is no good (the magic numbers from the locale data and fromthe libc are not match) then it will skip it.You should be able to see the installed locale using: 
$ locale -aand try to get something like:$ LC_ALL=he_IL locale d_fmtIt should show you the d_fmt from he_IL.> I have already added the Hebrew fonts from the Culmus Project> ( 
http://culmus.sourceforge.net/) to the newly> created /home/user/.fonts dir.> The fonts show up on the list, but when I try to use them in the
> AbiWord processor - I get squares - even if I change the language to > Hebrew.If you have it working in Notes then there is no problem with the font.Probably it is the problem of the Abiword text rendering.
-- ::. Amichai RotmanUIN#: 6401746Registered Linux User#: 201192 [
http://counter.li.org/] PLEASE READ: 
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html--- 
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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread philippe . laporte
Hi,
I am sorry that my strategy does not meet your expectations.  I am
also sorry I haven't come around to answering your last private mail
yet.

Despite Maemo being an Open Source project, not everything can be done in
the open.

I gave a talk at Linuxtag last weekend
(http://www.linuxtag.org/vcc/details.pl?id=321), similar to the impromptu
one I gave at FOSDEM. Both were well received. I had the chance to spend
several productive hours with the leaders of CACAO, Classpath and Kaffe.

My last post included a pointer to various screenshots.  Going along
meeting your demands, what was novel there was SableVM and Swing on the
770, and Knopflerfish OSGi.

Prior to that only Felix OSGi was reported as running, and the screenshot
was from the emulator.

I've been working with Scratchbox since 2003 and it is indeed a great
tool. I've been acting as the bridge between Maemo and Classpath. That's
for the activities I can reveal at this point.

There is a lot more going on. I will post information according to my
schedule. Keep on the lookout.

Best Regards,
Philippe


> Sorry for beeing unfriendly and harsh but what have _you_ done in
> order to make java working on the N770?
> The only thing I can see is that you post like a wild cow messages to
> classpath and maemo lists asking for ready-to-run packages(!!) of all
> possible free java implementations and clueless stuff like that which
> end up with no replies at all.
> Maybe it would be better to install scratchbox and start coding
> yourself instead of bothering others with your wishes and problems and
> making videos of console-java applications running on the N770 ;)
>
> good luck, lg Clemens
>
> 2006/5/11, Philippe Laporte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>>  We have obtained a second 770 unit and have produced better
>> screenshots and videos, which are available at:
>> http://82.193.172.109/screenshots/
>>
>> RedHat et al have been making constant progress on the AWT problems when
>> running on the 770: two bugs have been closed and a new one opened:
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27118
>>
>> We will soon look into a CLDC-MIDP stack. As usual I invite all the
>> willing to join in.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Philippe Laporte
>> Technical Director
>> Embedded Java and OMA DM
>>
>> Gatespace Telematics
>> Första Långgatan 18
>> 41328 Göteborg
>> Sweden
>> Phone: +46 702 04 35 11
>> Fax:   +46 31 24 16 50
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Sorry for beeing unfriendly and harsh but what have _you_ done in
order to make java working on the N770?
The only thing I can see is that you post like a wild cow messages to
classpath and maemo lists asking for ready-to-run packages(!!) of all
possible free java implementations and clueless stuff like that which
end up with no replies at all.
Maybe it would be better to install scratchbox and start coding
yourself instead of bothering others with your wishes and problems and
making videos of console-java applications running on the N770 ;)

good luck, lg Clemens

2006/5/11, Philippe Laporte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi,
 We have obtained a second 770 unit and have produced better
screenshots and videos, which are available at:
http://82.193.172.109/screenshots/

RedHat et al have been making constant progress on the AWT problems when
running on the 770: two bugs have been closed and a new one opened:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27118

We will soon look into a CLDC-MIDP stack. As usual I invite all the
willing to join in.

Best Regards,

--
Philippe Laporte
Technical Director
Embedded Java and OMA DM

Gatespace Telematics
Första Långgatan 18
41328 Göteborg
Sweden
Phone: +46 702 04 35 11
Fax:   +46 31 24 16 50
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[maemo-users] Is R&D mode harmful?

2006-05-14 Thread Marius Gedminas
Hi folks,

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot says

Once root access has been granted, it is recommended to disable R&D
mode.

Why is it so?  In what way modifying /etc/sudoers or the gainroot script
is better than keeping R&D mode on?

(I promise to put the answer to the wiki.)

Marius Gedminas
-- 
"Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe files. This provides more security
than wiping with decimal values."
-- Norton SystemWorks 2002 Manual


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