Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:32:27PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >I'm sure all three are doable, but I don't know how.
> >
> >Using an ad-hoc wireless network might be simplest.
> >  
> Well sure, but that requires some kind of routing on the PC, and basic 
> connection sharing doesn't like using real IP addresses.

I do not understand the bit about liking real IP addresses.

> I need something to act as a router or proxy.  Any suggestions?

Internet Connection Sharing that comes with Windows does NAT (Network
Address Translation).

I haven't used any kind of Windows for many years now, so I can't tell
you the specifics.

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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Freitag, 15. September 2006 19:36 schrieb Miles Fidelman:
> - plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO-BluetoothNetworking

> - connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/USBnetworkingWinXP
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToSetUpUsbNetworkingDebian


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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Miles Fidelman

Felix,

Thanks!  Now if it were only so easy under Windows.  Sigh...

Miles

Felix Windt wrote:

On a Mac, turn on wireless, click on the icon in the status bar and create a
connection. Remember to specify a password by clicking on "Show Options" -
even though it's just WEP, that's still better than nothing. To route
connections from that network, go to the System Preferences, Sharing,
Internet and turn on Internet Sharing on the built in Ethernet connections.

I am not sure you can use bluetooth as you described - bluetooth devices
advertise their category. I would expect that unless you laptops advertise
themselves as modems, the 770 would not be able to use them. Also, obviously
the range for bluetooth would be much smaller and you'd have to be near the
laptop and at that point might as well use the laptop for your browsing.


On 9/15/06 10:36 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Ok.. I have this brand new 770, and the obvious next step is to get
connected to the net, but... there's no WiFi access point handy.  S

It would seem that there should be a way to:

- use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the
office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,
- plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
- connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router

But.. so far, I keep running into the limitations of WinXP internet
connection sharing - it doesn't like to use the fixed IP associated with
our internal LAN.

I'm sure that somebody has already figured this out - so any suggestions
or pointers would be much appreciated.

Also.. any comments re. doing the same thing, but with a Mac (my home
machine).

Thanks very much,

Miles Fidelman
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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Felix Windt
On a Mac, turn on wireless, click on the icon in the status bar and create a
connection. Remember to specify a password by clicking on "Show Options" -
even though it's just WEP, that's still better than nothing. To route
connections from that network, go to the System Preferences, Sharing,
Internet and turn on Internet Sharing on the built in Ethernet connections.

I am not sure you can use bluetooth as you described - bluetooth devices
advertise their category. I would expect that unless you laptops advertise
themselves as modems, the 770 would not be able to use them. Also, obviously
the range for bluetooth would be much smaller and you'd have to be near the
laptop and at that point might as well use the laptop for your browsing.


On 9/15/06 10:36 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok.. I have this brand new 770, and the obvious next step is to get
> connected to the net, but... there's no WiFi access point handy.  S
> 
> It would seem that there should be a way to:
> 
> - use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the
> office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,
> - plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
> - connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router
> 
> But.. so far, I keep running into the limitations of WinXP internet
> connection sharing - it doesn't like to use the fixed IP associated with
> our internal LAN.
> 
> I'm sure that somebody has already figured this out - so any suggestions
> or pointers would be much appreciated.
> 
> Also.. any comments re. doing the same thing, but with a Mac (my home
> machine).
> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> Miles Fidelman
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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread David Lapetina
Le vendredi 15 septembre 2006 à 14:32 -0400, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> I need something to act as a router or proxy.  Any suggestions?

Any linux host can act as a NAT/router, and may be - but I'm not sure -
some windows stuff can do so.
It's very easy to configure such stuff under linux. It takes about 1
minute and 3 command lines.


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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Miles Fidelman

Marius Gedminas wrote:

On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 01:36:09PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
  
Ok.. I have this brand new 770, and the obvious next step is to get 
connected to the net, but... there's no WiFi access point handy.  S


It would seem that there should be a way to:

- use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the 
office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,

- plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
- connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router



I'm sure all three are doable, but I don't know how.

Using an ad-hoc wireless network might be simplest.
  
Well sure, but that requires some kind of routing on the PC, and basic 
connection sharing doesn't like using real IP addresses.


I need something to act as a router or proxy.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Miles
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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Willie McKemie
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 09:11:35PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > 
> > - use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the 
> > office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,
> > - plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
> > - connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router
> 
> I'm sure all three are doable, but I don't know how.
> 
> Using an ad-hoc wireless network might be simplest.

Also to be considered:  In the USA and probably the rest of the world, 
wireless routers are available as cheaply as about $20.  The routers 
can be used as simple access points to connect a wired network device 
to a wifi device such as the 770.

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Re: [maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 01:36:09PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ok.. I have this brand new 770, and the obvious next step is to get 
> connected to the net, but... there's no WiFi access point handy.  S
> 
> It would seem that there should be a way to:
> 
> - use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the 
> office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,
> - plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
> - connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router

I'm sure all three are doable, but I don't know how.

Using an ad-hoc wireless network might be simplest.

> But.. so far, I keep running into the limitations of WinXP internet 
> connection sharing - it doesn't like to use the fixed IP associated with 
> our internal LAN.
> 
> I'm sure that somebody has already figured this out - so any suggestions 
> or pointers would be much appreciated.
> 
> Also.. any comments re. doing the same thing, but with a Mac (my home 
> machine).

I don't have a Mac, but I've seen someone enable wired Internet sharing
over WiFi with a couple of clicks.  IIRC the Mac pretended to be an
access point.

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[maemo-users] connection options

2006-09-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ok.. I have this brand new 770, and the obvious next step is to get 
connected to the net, but... there's no WiFi access point handy.  S


It would seem that there should be a way to:

- use the laptop sitting on my office desk (hard-wired connection to the 
office LAN, wi-fi card) as a router, and/or,

- plug a bluetooth dongle into the laptop and use it as a router, and/or,
- connect via a usb cable and use the laptop as a router

But.. so far, I keep running into the limitations of WinXP internet 
connection sharing - it doesn't like to use the fixed IP associated with 
our internal LAN.


I'm sure that somebody has already figured this out - so any suggestions 
or pointers would be much appreciated.


Also.. any comments re. doing the same thing, but with a Mac (my home 
machine).


Thanks very much,

Miles Fidelman
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