[Marxism] Defend the Syrian Revolution – Defeat Assad – Drive All Foreign Aggressors Out!

2016-03-10 Thread RKOB via Marxism

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[Marxism] Some light marxism for the weekend

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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*How capitalism works - and why it doesn't
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*4,000 words on Capital
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*Karl Korsch on "tremendous and enduring" impact of Marx's Capital (1932)
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*Marx's critique of classical political economy
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[Marxism] Trump, Sanders and the blind alleyways of American populism

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/trump-sanders-and-the-blind-alleys-of-american-populism/
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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Comrades have to make sure to note that  is 
included when you reply to a message. In this instance, Mark replied 
only to me. This is a peculiarity of our Mailman implementation that 
there is no easy solution to unfortunately. Usually the list address is 
included, sometimes it is not. Comrades should simply look at the "to" 
addresses before posting.


On 3/10/16 4:34 PM, Mark Grueter wrote:

He has disavowed other things he had previously said. For instance, he once 
argued the CIA should be abolished. They asked him about it recently, and he 
said he no longer had the same view. So it would seem that his view on Castro 
has not changed; otherwise it would've been politically much smarter for him to 
say what he really thinks. As for Chavez, it's not possible to be more critical 
of the Bolivarian state (especially with what's happening these days) than of 
Castro?

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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:21:18 PM
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debate

On 3/10/16 3:11 PM, Mark Grueter via Marxism wrote:


He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.


Well, of course. How could he disavow what he said? That would make him
look like an opportunist. Of course, there still is that puzzling
discrepancy between what he said about Castro and Chavez.


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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 3/10/16 3:11 PM, Mark Grueter via Marxism wrote:


He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.


Well, of course. How could he disavow what he said? That would make him 
look like an opportunist. Of course, there still is that puzzling 
discrepancy between what he said about Castro and Chavez.

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Re: [Marxism] On Bernie Sanders’s “political revolution” | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2016-03-10 Thread Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism
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Witty and helpful. Thanks.

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism 
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> Being a senior citizen is a mixed blessing. On the debit side, I have to put 
> up with ailments that tend to develop once you are past 50 (as I am well 
> past) such as cataracts, hypertension, and the male-only benign prostatic 
> hyperplasia. On the credit side, having been on the front lines of most of 
> the political battles of the past 50 years, I have gained a lot of experience 
> that allows me to be a bit more skeptical of the Sanders campaign that many 
> younger people on the left embrace like a shiny new toy.
> 
> Of course, there are some grizzled veterans who are also fixated on the new 
> toy, an explanation for which has a lot to do with their particular 
> background that views voting for Democrats as a tactical question. To give 
> credit where credit is due, I would say that Ethan Young’s article on the 
> Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung website titled “A Political Revolution” is the most 
> skillful I have seen to justify voting Democrat—much more informed than, for 
> example, the Socialist Alternative people whose article explaining their 
> participation in the Sanders campaign appears juvenile by comparison.
> 
> I should mention that the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung is basically the NY branch 
> office of Die Linke, the German left party that generally fights the good 
> fight even though it has erred badly on Syria. In my view, the USA is badly 
> in need of such a party as the Socialist Alternative comrades argue in their 
> article but mistakenly believe—as does Young—that the Sanders campaign can 
> mutate into such a party. It is more likely that I will mutate into Rosa 
> Luxemburg.
> 
> full: 
> https://louisproyect.org/2016/03/10/on-bernie-sanderss-political-revolution/
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Grueter via Marxism
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"Because he said these things about Cuba before he had become housebroken."

He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.

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On 3/10/16 12:33 PM, Sheldon Ranz wrote:
> How can he be so reasonable on Cuba but condemn Hugo Chavez as a
> communist tyrant?
>

Because he said these things about Cuba before he had become housebroken.

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[Marxism] Fwd: Thoughts on a Bernie Sanders campaign | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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From 2 years ago and still relevant.

https://louisproyect.org/2014/09/25/thoughts-on-a-bernie-sanders-campaign/
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[Marxism] Fwd: On Bernie Sanders’s “political revolution” | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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Being a senior citizen is a mixed blessing. On the debit side, I have to 
put up with ailments that tend to develop once you are past 50 (as I am 
well past) such as cataracts, hypertension, and the male-only benign 
prostatic hyperplasia. On the credit side, having been on the front 
lines of most of the political battles of the past 50 years, I have 
gained a lot of experience that allows me to be a bit more skeptical of 
the Sanders campaign that many younger people on the left embrace like a 
shiny new toy.


Of course, there are some grizzled veterans who are also fixated on the 
new toy, an explanation for which has a lot to do with their particular 
background that views voting for Democrats as a tactical question. To 
give credit where credit is due, I would say that Ethan Young’s article 
on the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung website titled “A Political Revolution” 
is the most skillful I have seen to justify voting Democrat—much more 
informed than, for example, the Socialist Alternative people whose 
article explaining their participation in the Sanders campaign appears 
juvenile by comparison.


I should mention that the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung is basically the NY 
branch office of Die Linke, the German left party that generally fights 
the good fight even though it has erred badly on Syria. In my view, the 
USA is badly in need of such a party as the Socialist Alternative 
comrades argue in their article but mistakenly believe—as does 
Young—that the Sanders campaign can mutate into such a party. It is more 
likely that I will mutate into Rosa Luxemburg.


full: 
https://louisproyect.org/2016/03/10/on-bernie-sanderss-political-revolution/

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[Marxism] Assad and ISIS - Partners in terror

2016-03-10 Thread Steffan Wyn-Jones via Marxism
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"From ISIS’ beginnings in Iraq to its rapid spread into the conflict in
Syria, one government has facilitated the group’s growth more than any
other: the regime of Bashar al-Assad."


https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/566717-partners-in-terror
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[Marxism] Angola and Apartheid’s Last Stand

2016-03-10 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate (video).

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 3/10/16 12:33 PM, Sheldon Ranz wrote:

How can he be so reasonable on Cuba but condemn Hugo Chavez as a
communist tyrant?



Because he said these things about Cuba before he had become housebroken.
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate (video).

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I support Bernie, but he can be weird.  How can he be so reasonable on Cuba
but condemn Hugo Chavez as a communist tyrant?

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[Marxism] Fwd: Tehran, 1979

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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The Shah has fallen. The Ayatollahs have taken over, but their authority
is not yet firmly established. Now is the time for the Communists to
seize the day, to organize the workers, to make the revolution theirs.
They have nothing to lose, except for their freedom and their lives…




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Re: [Marxism] Economic Planning/Centralization and Computation - The Work of Cockshott and Cottrell

2016-03-10 Thread Craig Butosi via Marxism
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Hi all,

This is a great start. Thanks for the leads everyone. Much appreciated.

C


Craig Butosi, MA, MLIS, B Mus (Hons)
Website: craigbutosi.ca 
Library: library.craigbutosi.ca


On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Louis Proyect  wrote:

> There are other efforts to reconcile computer technology and socialism
> that differ quite strikingly from cy.Rev's "Third Wave" vision. W. Paul
> Cockshott and Allin Cottrell co-authored "Towards a New Socialism: a
> Post-Soviet Model" to promote such a vision. Cockshott is a computer
> systems engineer and his expertise helps to give the book a firm grounding
> in the technology it espouses. They advocate centralized planning though
> the wide-scale use of networked computers, rather than the decentralized
> version of market socialism that cy.Rev embraces. Instead of rejecting a
> Soviet-type model out-of-hand, they present a re-engineered version.
>
> Cockshott and Cottrell argue that the labor theory of value can provide
> the underpinning for both wages and prices in a socialist society. If we
> can quantify how long it costs to produce something, then we should not
> only be able price it accurately but make sure that factories can do it on
> time. This seems somewhat like the operating principle of the former Soviet
> Union, so why didn't it work there?.
>
> The answer is two-fold. Besides the lack of democracy, there was also
> inadequate information available to economic planners. Only sophisticated
> computer systems can provide this information. They say, "If we want to get
> a more objective source of cost data, we need a system of data collection
> that is independent of the market. This is where computer technology comes
> in. We need a computerised information system that gives production
> engineers unbiased estimates of the labour time costs of different
> technologies."
>
> The recent infatuation with market pricing in formerly socialist nations
> seems oddly placed, given the generally irrational nature of the market
> itself. Cockshott and Cottrell note that "market prices are used as a cost
> indicator in capitalist countries, but they have a certain arbitrary
> character. An artist dies in poverty. A few decades later his pictures
> change hands for millions. A sudden panic hits the stock markets. In a
> matter of hours hundreds of billions are wiped of stock prices. Farmers
> destroy crops because the prices are too low. Walk through the poor areas
> of a British or American city and you will see the pinched faces and
> stunted figures of people for whom food is too expensive."
>
> If the proper computation of labor values is necessary for economic
> planning, what is better, according to Cockshott and Cottrell, to perform
> this function than modern supercomputers. Scientists use them for weather
> forecasting, atomic weapons design, oil prospecting and nuclear physics.
> Would it not be reasonable to expect a national planning bureau to make use
> of them as well?
>
> They, like the publishers of cy.Rev, are cyber-optimists but welcome the
> idea of state management of the economy. They make the case succinctly for
> a mix of advanced automation and old-fashioned "state socialism":
>
> "If detailed plan-balancing is way beyond the reach of the human brain,
> can the calculations be performed successfully using computers? Our answer
> will be `yes', but we wish to anticipate some criticisms. During the 1960s,
> as mainframe computers began to become widely available, many Soviet
> economic cyberneticians were very optimistic, but since that time the
> overall impact of the computer on Soviet planning has disappointed those
> early expectations. Of course it was not just in the USSR that the benefits
> of computerisation were greatly oversold in the 60s. Computerisation is no
> panacea. There are many problems with the economic mechanism in the USSR
> which would have to be tackled before the application of extra
> computer-power can be expected to yield much of a dividend. (One example:
> the irrational and semi-fossilised pricing system, with the prices of many
> goods stuck at levels which guarantee shortages and queues.)
>
> But having said that, the computer and telecommunications technology of
> the late twentieth century does present striking opportunities for the
> regulation of the economy. We believe that the more real danger at present
> is an over-reaction to the `failed promise of the computer'. One should
> remember that the USSR is somewhat behind the West in computer technology,
> and the types of computer system available to Soviet planners in the 60s
> and even 70s 

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: ZCommunications » A Political Revolution

2016-03-10 Thread Andrew Pollack via Marxism
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Here's a detailed history of that "marxist-leninist" milieu by Ethan
himself.
One can't stress enough the Rainbow parallel, both in terms of hopes
falsely raised and in movement-building derailed.
N.B.: I've had numerous encounters with Ethan over the decades and never a
negative one, however much we disagreed.

http://www.freedomroad.org/staticfiles/familytree/discussion/thetrend.html

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> (An article by Ethan Young, who was a member of a sect called Line of
> March that saw itself as the authentic continuation of the CPUSA in the
> same manner as the Socialist Action sect saw itself as the authentic
> continuation of the SWP. In 1984, when I was a member of CISPES, I was
> dismayed to see LoM members in CISPES arguing alongside the Maoist CWP that
> we effectively become part of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow campaign. At the risk
> of sounding like a dogmatic purist, I think it is a mistake for protest
> movements to affiliate with DP politicians even when they can talk the talk
> even better than Sanders. Go back and look at Jackson's 1984 speeches and
> you'll see what I mean. After the 1984 convention when Walter Mondale
> became the nominee, the "transformational" Rainbow Coalition folded its
> tents and disappeared. I could be wrong but after Clinton becomes the
> nominee, as she surely will, and Sanders backs her, the "Sanders Democrats"
> will fade into oblivion. Sanders will go back to being an honorable de
> facto Democrat and calling himself a socialist (whatever that means) and
> that will be that for the "inside out" left until the next
> "transformational" bourgeois politician comes along.)
>
> Part of the emerging, reconstructed Left will likely take the form of an
> anti-neoliberal “Sanders Democrats” wing of the Democratic Party. This
> could directly challenge party centrists in every state, and change the
> direction of policy battles in Congress and in state and city governments.
> It would also further challenge the view on the Left that holds to a purist
> stance of permanently attacking the Democrats as a class enemy. This
> tendency, which sees the formation of a third party as always the immediate
> priority in electoral politics, claims that its opponents are careerists or
> naive liberals. However, the most widely held view among independent
> leftists is an “inside/outside” strategy, favoring independent candidates
> where the power of the party machine excludes progressive reformers. Some
> die-hards of the other camp have been swayed by the upsurge for Sanders.
>
> Sanders’ campaign promotes policies that run counter to neoliberalism and
> anti-government conservatism, but despite the socialist banner he flies,
> they don’t undermine capitalism per se. Sanders is more feared for his
> emphasis on mass mobilization—strengthening democracy under attack by the
> private sector and quasi-fascist elements. His campaign has made the word
> “socialist” acceptable in ways that it never was heretofore in the U.S. Now
> the tiny socialist movement has a chance to crawl out of the rubble and
> join a new generation, fueled by disgust for the capitalist system and a
> growing determination to replace it with something just, sustainable, and
> beautiful.
>
> full: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/a-political-revolution/
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[Marxism] Statement by anti-Assad activists on the repression of the Kurdish population in Turkey

2016-03-10 Thread Michael Karadjis via Marxism

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Statement on the repression of the Kurdish population in Turkey

http://www.syriauk.org/2016/03/statement-on-repression-of-kurdish.html

We the undersigned are deeply concerned at the deterioration of 
relations between the Turkish government and Turkey’s Kurdish 
communities, and call for the ending of all repressive measures against 
the Kurdish population, and the lifting of all sieges imposed on Kurdish 
areas.


We are motivated to make this statement by the same principles that 
drive our unconditional support for the democratic struggle against the 
Assad regime and its allies, which we identify as first and foremost 
responsible for the grave humanitarian crisis that the Syrian people 
have been plunged into and which has resulted in close to half a million 
deaths. We support the right of all people to a life of dignity, free 
from state repression, and their right to democratically govern their 
societies and communities. This includes the right to celebrate their 
diverse cultures and the rights to national self-determination. We 
uphold these principles and champion their universal extension without 
condition.


Even as we recognise that Turkey has been a far truer friend to Syrians 
than the Western powers have been, opening its borders to two and a half 
million refugees fleeing Assad’s repression, we also recognise that any 
restrictions on democratic rights in Turkey will negatively impact on 
those Syrian refugees who have sought refuge there. Moreover, we fear 
that the EU, in its efforts to persuade Turkey to contain the refugees 
and prevent them from crossing to Europe, will overlook the human rights 
abuses committed by the Turkish state.


On principle, we call for the lifting of all sieges in all ongoing 
conflicts. Using food as a weapon is a war crime.


In the spirit of the non-sectarian, democratic struggles that sparked 
the Arab Spring revolutions and whose supporters continue to resist 
repression in Syria and Egypt, we call on President Erdogan to end the 
indefinite state of curfew in Sirnak, as well as and to reopen the 
political process for reaching a settlement with the Kurdish citizens of 
Turkey.


Moreover, we firmly declare our solidarity with the democratic civil 
society groups seeking a political solution to the struggle for Kurdish 
self-determination in the region. We are alarmed that the Turkish State 
is engaging in repression of these groups, such as the Kurdish-Turkish 
HDP parliamentary party, the students delivering much needed 
humanitarian aid to the Kurdish regions of northern Syria, and the 
Turkish academics who have spoken out against the repression. We fear 
any further escalation of fighting or repression will close down the 
democratic space needed for dialogue, and for non-violent political 
actors to organise, further polarising the situation and rendering it 
intractable.


Syria Solidarity UK

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[Marxism] Fwd: ZCommunications » A Political Revolution

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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(An article by Ethan Young, who was a member of a sect called Line of 
March that saw itself as the authentic continuation of the CPUSA in the 
same manner as the Socialist Action sect saw itself as the authentic 
continuation of the SWP. In 1984, when I was a member of CISPES, I was 
dismayed to see LoM members in CISPES arguing alongside the Maoist CWP 
that we effectively become part of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow campaign. At 
the risk of sounding like a dogmatic purist, I think it is a mistake for 
protest movements to affiliate with DP politicians even when they can 
talk the talk even better than Sanders. Go back and look at Jackson's 
1984 speeches and you'll see what I mean. After the 1984 convention when 
Walter Mondale became the nominee, the "transformational" Rainbow 
Coalition folded its tents and disappeared. I could be wrong but after 
Clinton becomes the nominee, as she surely will, and Sanders backs her, 
the "Sanders Democrats" will fade into oblivion. Sanders will go back to 
being an honorable de facto Democrat and calling himself a socialist 
(whatever that means) and that will be that for the "inside out" left 
until the next "transformational" bourgeois politician comes along.)


Part of the emerging, reconstructed Left will likely take the form of an 
anti-neoliberal “Sanders Democrats” wing of the Democratic Party. This 
could directly challenge party centrists in every state, and change the 
direction of policy battles in Congress and in state and city 
governments. It would also further challenge the view on the Left that 
holds to a purist stance of permanently attacking the Democrats as a 
class enemy. This tendency, which sees the formation of a third party as 
always the immediate priority in electoral politics, claims that its 
opponents are careerists or naive liberals. However, the most widely 
held view among independent leftists is an “inside/outside” strategy, 
favoring independent candidates where the power of the party machine 
excludes progressive reformers. Some die-hards of the other camp have 
been swayed by the upsurge for Sanders.


Sanders’ campaign promotes policies that run counter to neoliberalism 
and anti-government conservatism, but despite the socialist banner he 
flies, they don’t undermine capitalism per se. Sanders is more feared 
for his emphasis on mass mobilization—strengthening democracy under 
attack by the private sector and quasi-fascist elements. His campaign 
has made the word “socialist” acceptable in ways that it never was 
heretofore in the U.S. Now the tiny socialist movement has a chance to 
crawl out of the rubble and join a new generation, fueled by disgust for 
the capitalist system and a growing determination to replace it with 
something just, sustainable, and beautiful.


full: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/a-political-revolution/
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[Marxism] Fwd: Journalists and activists beaten and bus torched on Chechnya tour | World news | The Guardian

2016-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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