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Looks pretty good for a $500 car. Wow

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[MBZ] Old v new 140

Poos keeps saying to avoid the pre 96 140 because they had too many problems. I 
say poos is wrong. The main 2 problems are engine wiring harness and 
evaporator. Both of which has most likely already been replaced. The post 
facelift models have the 5 speed electronic transmission and a better ignition 
system. They are also cheapened out compared to the earlier 140s. They do have 
a few more gadgets but the build quality is not as good. The older engines do 
have more power but will get slightly less mileage. Some of the neat 140 
features were eliminated in the later cars such as power center mirror and the 
backup antennas.  The older version 140 just seems much more elegant and more 
stout to me. 

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[MBZ] W123 Dissel

2016-03-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


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Nice, but pretty lame.  No details.

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Re: [MBZ] What a Car!

Drool-la-la. Stunning car. I wonder what the reserve is.  How odd that it
has 'roo bars front and rear.

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> This yard is full of its brothers and sisters, just waiting to be visited
> by a Faerie Godmother who will bring them back to their former glory
>
> http://www.dicksupullit.com
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> clay
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> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
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> > Never seen one of these before.  A real beauty.
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Custom-Super-Clipper-Coupe-/391412223671?forcerrptr=true=item5b21fc8eb7:g:AV4AAOSwL7VWrNuJ=391412223671
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Re: [MBZ] Could be Andrew's next car -- Replaced 3 ball joints

Both are easily fixable.

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> a perfect uber car
>>
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5485374392.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile

What a beast.  The car, that is.

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> There is nothing wrong with the older ones. Most issues would have been
> fixed long ago. I am crazy but I am going to look at a 92 600SEL.
>
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> >
> > I have pretty much resigned myself to never buying a W140 that's older
> than 1996/7. Once you cross that threshold there are so many potential
> issues to deal with its just not worth hassling with them.
> >
> > Nice car, however. Looks like it could be a good deal for someone who is
> looking for a W140 diesel.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There was one similar, can't remember what year, at the local mech shop
> a few years back.  I think it had a bad head, something, the owner (a
> Kiawhite) apparently just walked away from it.  I tried to get it for $700,
> he wanted $1100 or $1200 and wouldn't budge.  It finally disappeared after
> sitting for a year or two.  It was a very nice car, clean, except for that
> problem.  I think we discussed it, sourcing a head would not have been a
> big issue, would have been a nice car but I was being cheepcheep.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>> On 3/23/16 1:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Somebody needs to jump on that quick
> >>>
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>  $3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html
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Re: [MBZ] What a Car!

This yard is full of its brothers and sisters, just waiting to be visited by a 
Faerie Godmother who will bring them back to their former glory

http://www.dicksupullit.com

clay

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> Never seen one of these before.  A real beauty.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

I may have shot myself in the foot with the all the photos, but pix lie.  I 
have looked at cars in the field that looked great online, but were junk in 
person.   If I had half a mind, I would buy junk cars, detail them, then turn 
around and sell them to the lowball larry types.  But the sale would fail, 
because once they see the car, they would try to bargain.  Wasting my time.

Maybe I just change my perspective and tell them I am only able to discuss 
price in person after the car has been inspected.

clay


On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> On the other hand they're not wasting your time crawling all over the car 
> before lowballing you...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: clay via Mercedes 
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry
> 
> Not my car.  I am just fronting for the shop that needs to break even.  The 
> quality of the car is high enough that being able to hit that mark is 
> reasonable.  No crack.  I have driven the car and keep an eye on the market, 
> pester sellers, so I know the pulse of the local market.  I discount the 
> desired values club members feel their cars are worth.  Sale price does 
> depend upon what buyers will pay.  I do not have to take the first low ball 
> offer from a guy who has never seen the car.  Nor the subsequent low ball 
> offers.  
> 
> It is a bit rude to make low ball offers one a first contact by email.  At 
> least they could look at the car.  That would show greater interest than a 
> blind email response to a listing.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Clay, the selling price of the car is determined by the market, not how much 
>> money the shop has spent fixing it.
>> 
>> Your justifications remind me of someone who thinks the car value is tied to 
>> the cost of an (expensive) restoration or modification or whatever; people 
>> on this list ridicule those sellers as crack smokers.
>> 
>> Don't be a crack smoker. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On March 23, 2016 5:38:47 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>> For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just
>>> want to move product.  This car has a break even point and has been
>>> stored for a few years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking
>>> lot.  Pretty surprising the number of people who think they can get a
>>> repair for cheap, then walk away from their cars.  Had I been expecting
>>> the low ballers, I would have priced the car far higher, so that the
>>> half price trick would get the car gone at the proper price.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> 
 
 
 However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the
>>> asking price.
 My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in
>>> the past year in that manner.
 He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and
>>> buys the vehicle.
 A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they
>>> don't get an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first
>>> offer they get.
 
 I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used
>>> car dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would
>>> go around on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from
>>> private sellers. He never paid more than about half of what the asking
>>> price was. He would often just suggest to the seller that they were
>>> unlikely to get any better offers and advise he was prepared to pay
>>> cash immediately and would get the vehicle for his price.
 Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient
>>> parking and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.
 
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[MBZ] What a Car!

Never seen one of these before.  A real beauty.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Custom-Super-Clipper-Coupe-/391412223671?forcerrptr=true=item5b21fc8eb7:g:AV4AAOSwL7VWrNuJ=391412223671

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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

2016-03-23 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Take a cordless impact and a cordless sawzall.

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

2016-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

On the other hand they're not wasting your time crawling all over the car 
before lowballing you...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry
   
Not my car.  I am just fronting for the shop that needs to break even.  The 
quality of the car is high enough that being able to hit that mark is 
reasonable.  No crack.  I have driven the car and keep an eye on the market, 
pester sellers, so I know the pulse of the local market.  I discount the 
desired values club members feel their cars are worth.  Sale price does depend 
upon what buyers will pay.  I do not have to take the first low ball offer from 
a guy who has never seen the car.  Nor the subsequent low ball offers.  

It is a bit rude to make low ball offers one a first contact by email.  At 
least they could look at the car.  That would show greater interest than a 
blind email response to a listing.

clay


On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

> Clay, the selling price of the car is determined by the market, not how much 
> money the shop has spent fixing it.
> 
> Your justifications remind me of someone who thinks the car value is tied to 
> the cost of an (expensive) restoration or modification or whatever; people on 
> this list ridicule those sellers as crack smokers.
> 
> Don't be a crack smoker. 
> 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On March 23, 2016 5:38:47 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>> For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just
>> want to move product.  This car has a break even point and has been
>> stored for a few years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking
>> lot.  Pretty surprising the number of people who think they can get a
>> repair for cheap, then walk away from their cars.  Had I been expecting
>> the low ballers, I would have priced the car far higher, so that the
>> half price trick would get the car gone at the proper price.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the
>> asking price.
>>> My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in
>> the past year in that manner.
>>> He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and
>> buys the vehicle.
>>> A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they
>> don't get an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first
>> offer they get.
>>> 
>>> I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used
>> car dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would
>> go around on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from
>> private sellers. He never paid more than about half of what the asking
>> price was. He would often just suggest to the seller that they were
>> unlikely to get any better offers and advise he was prepared to pay
>> cash immediately and would get the vehicle for his price.
>>> Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient
>> parking and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.
>>> 
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

Everything at the front of the car is off except radiator, which will come out 
easy, the radiator support is already removed so the engine will just about 
come straight out the front

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> 
> Maybe drop  the engine and transmission on the ground, pick up the front of 
> the car, drag out  the engine.  Need a sled or something to drag it on.  Ten 
> fence posts, piece of ply wood, go Egyptian?
> 
> Cut the front clip off?
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> '95 E300
> 
>> On March 23, 2016 6:28:44 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Do they have a forklift around, like for moving the cars?  I would
>> guess 
>> if you get the mounts undone, jack under it, and a chain on the lift 
>> points, they could just pop it out.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 3/23/16 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own.
>> This is a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of
>> mine who drove it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a
>> while back. This is a 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend
>> said she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk
>> yard. It had auction stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag,
>> which turned out to be one of my customers. If I had noticed it in
>> their inventory I could have picked it up cheap. So this was a
>> perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction.
>> LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly fine running cars
>> at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just arrived
>> and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours there
>> stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which
>> was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question,
>> has anybody pulled an engine fore at one of these places? Knowing the
>> car I really want to go back for the engine before somebody starts
>> hacking away at it. I see they have a frames out there but I am unsure
>> about pulling one on site. If just hacking lines and cables should come
>> out pretty quick I guess, just worried about the logistics of actually
>> doing the pulling and getting it out of there.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

Well no more than they charge for engines I think I should go pull it. I see a 
frames out there I guess I should have taken a closer look

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> I've pulled a couple engines @ Pull-A-Part. They will let you use an A Frame 
> to do the extraction then will move it to your
> your vehicle with a fork lift. Don't know how LKQ does it never pulled an 
> engine from one of their yards.
> Best bet is to ask them.
> 
> Russ W.
> 
>> On Wed,3/23/16 17:00, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own. This is 
>> a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of mine who drove 
>> it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a while back. This is a 
>> 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend said she was wanting to get 
>> rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk yard. It had auction stickers on 
>> it as well as a dealer stock tag, which turned out to be one of my 
>> customers. If I had noticed it in their inventory I could have picked it up 
>> cheap. So this was a perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer 
>> sent it to auction. LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly 
>> fine running cars at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have 
>> just arrived and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours 
>> there stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which 
>> was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question, has 
>> anybody pulled an engine
  fore at one of these places? Knowing the car I really want to go back for the 
engine before somebody starts hacking away at it. I see they have a frames out 
there but I am unsure about pulling one on site. If just hacking lines and 
cables should come out pretty quick I guess, just worried about the logistics 
of actually doing the pulling and getting it out of there.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

2016-03-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Talk to them.  There are generally yard rats who 
will help move the crane over and help you load 
the engine.  I think the yard will haul it out on 
a pickup truck for you.  No way you can get it 
out on a wheelbarrow.  Hiring a yard rat for a 
few bucks would be a good investment.



I was at the pick a part today and came across a 
car I used to own. This is a prime example of 
stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of mine 
who drove it for a while then he sold it to a 
coworker of his a while back. This is a 96 e300 
diesel. A couple of months ago my friend said 
she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it 
turned up at the junk yard. It had auction 
stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag, 
which turned out to be one of my customers. If I 
had noticed it in their inventory I could have 
picked it up cheap. So this was a perfectly good 
car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to 
auction. LKQ bought it there. So apparently they 
buy perfectly fine running cars at the auction 
to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just 
arrived and only had the condenser removed. I 
spend a couple of hours there stripping off 
anything of value. I ended up spending about 
$200 which was probably $800 or more worth of 
parts on eBay. Here is my question, has anybody 
pulled an engine fore at one of these places? 
Knowing the car I really want to go back for the 
engine before somebody starts hacking away at 
it. I see they have a frames out there but I am 
unsure about pulling one on site. If just 
hacking lines and cables should come out pretty 
quick I guess, just worried about the logistics 
of actually doing the pulling and getting it out 
of there.


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Re: [MBZ] Could be Andrew's next car -- Replaced 3 ball joints

2016-03-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


a perfect uber car

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5485374392.html

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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

2016-03-23 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes

I've pulled a couple engines @ Pull-A-Part. They will let you use an A
Frame to do the extraction then will move it to your
your vehicle with a fork lift. Don't know how LKQ does it never pulled
an engine from one of their yards.

Best bet is to ask them.

Russ W.

On Wed,3/23/16 17:00, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own. This is a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of mine who drove it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a while back. This is a 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend said she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk yard. It had auction stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag, which turned out to be one of my customers. If I had noticed it in their inventory I could have picked it up cheap. So this was a perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction. LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly fine running cars at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just arrived and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours there stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question, has anybody pulled an engine

fore at one of these places? Knowing the car I really want to go back for the
engine before somebody starts hacking away at it. I see they have a frames out
there but I am unsure about pulling one on site. If just hacking lines and
cables should come out pretty quick I guess, just worried about the logistics
of actually doing the pulling and getting it out of there.

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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

Not my car.  I am just fronting for the shop that needs to break even.  The 
quality of the car is high enough that being able to hit that mark is 
reasonable.  No crack.  I have driven the car and keep an eye on the market, 
pester sellers, so I know the pulse of the local market.  I discount the 
desired values club members feel their cars are worth.  Sale price does depend 
upon what buyers will pay.  I do not have to take the first low ball offer from 
a guy who has never seen the car.  Nor the subsequent low ball offers.  

It is a bit rude to make low ball offers one a first contact by email.  At 
least they could look at the car.  That would show greater interest than a 
blind email response to a listing.

clay


On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

> Clay, the selling price of the car is determined by the market, not how much 
> money the shop has spent fixing it.
> 
> Your justifications remind me of someone who thinks the car value is tied to 
> the cost of an (expensive) restoration or modification or whatever; people on 
> this list ridicule those sellers as crack smokers.
> 
> Don't be a crack smoker. 
> 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On March 23, 2016 5:38:47 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>> For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just
>> want to move product.  This car has a break even point and has been
>> stored for a few years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking
>> lot.  Pretty surprising the number of people who think they can get a
>> repair for cheap, then walk away from their cars.  Had I been expecting
>> the low ballers, I would have priced the car far higher, so that the
>> half price trick would get the car gone at the proper price.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the
>> asking price.
>>> My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in
>> the past year in that manner.
>>> He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and
>> buys the vehicle.
>>> A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they
>> don't get an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first
>> offer they get.
>>> 
>>> I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used
>> car dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would
>> go around on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from
>> private sellers. He never paid more than about half of what the asking
>> price was. He would often just suggest to the seller that they were
>> unlikely to get any better offers and advise he was prepared to pay
>> cash immediately and would get the vehicle for his price.
>>> Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient
>> parking and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.
>>> 
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

2016-03-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Maybe drop the engine and transmission on the ground, pick up the front of the 
car, drag out the engine.  Need a sled or something to drag it on.  Ten fence 
posts, piece of ply wood, go Egyptian?

Cut the front clip off?
-- 
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'95 E300

On March 23, 2016 6:28:44 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Do they have a forklift around, like for moving the cars?  I would
>guess 
>if you get the mounts undone, jack under it, and a chain on the lift 
>points, they could just pop it out.
>
>--R
>
>On 3/23/16 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own.
>This is a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of
>mine who drove it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a
>while back. This is a 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend
>said she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk
>yard. It had auction stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag,
>which turned out to be one of my customers. If I had noticed it in
>their inventory I could have picked it up cheap. So this was a
>perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction.
>LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly fine running cars
>at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just arrived
>and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours there
>stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which
>was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question,
>has anybody pulled an engine fore at one of these places? Knowing the
>car I really want to go back for the engine before somebody starts
>hacking away at it. I see they have a frames out there but I am unsure
>about pulling one on site. If just hacking lines and cables should come
>out pretty quick I guess, just worried about the logistics of actually
>doing the pulling and getting it out of there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

2016-03-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 23/03/2016 4:38 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just want to 
move product.  This car has a break even point and has been stored for a few 
years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking lot.  Pretty surprising 
the number of people who think they can get a repair for cheap, then walk away 
from their cars.  Had I been expecting the low ballers, I would have priced the 
car far higher, so that the half price trick would get the car gone at the 
proper price.

clay




Most of the low ballers probably have a reasonable idea of what it is 
worth and what they are prepared to pay. They are often smarter than 
they look. You have the option of declining and are entitled to do so. 
They are likely not all that surprised when you do, but they feel they 
have nothing to lose and the odds are good that they can buy for less 
than what they think it is worth so they can flip it. Stating higher is 
not going to work with anyone who has done a bit of homework.


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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

Do they have a forklift around, like for moving the cars? I would guess
if you get the mounts undone, jack under it, and a chain on the lift
points, they could just pop it out.

--R

On 3/23/16 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own. This is a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of mine who drove it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a while back. This is a 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend said she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk yard. It had auction stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag, which turned out to be one of my customers. If I had noticed it in their inventory I could have picked it up cheap. So this was a perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction. LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly fine running cars at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just arrived and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours there stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question, has anybody pulled an engine

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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

2016-03-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Clay, the selling price of the car is determined by the market, not how much 
money the shop has spent fixing it.

Your justifications remind me of someone who thinks the car value is tied to 
the cost of an (expensive) restoration or modification or whatever; people on 
this list ridicule those sellers as crack smokers.

Don't be a crack smoker. 

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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 23, 2016 5:38:47 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
wrote:
>For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just
>want to move product.  This car has a break even point and has been
>stored for a few years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking
>lot.  Pretty surprising the number of people who think they can get a
>repair for cheap, then walk away from their cars.  Had I been expecting
>the low ballers, I would have priced the car far higher, so that the
>half price trick would get the car gone at the proper price.
>
>clay
>
>On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the
>asking price.
>> My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in
>the past year in that manner.
>> He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and
>buys the vehicle.
>> A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they
>don't get an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first
>offer they get.
>> 
>> I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used
>car dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would
>go around on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from
>private sellers. He never paid more than about half of what the asking
>price was. He would often just suggest to the seller that they were
>unlikely to get any better offers and advise he was prepared to pay
>cash immediately and would get the vehicle for his price.
>> Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient
>parking and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] At the pick a part today

I forgot to mention the glow plugs were replaced right before the
lady got it, so less than 6 months ago.

On 3/23/2016 5:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
via Mercedes wrote:

I was at the pick a part today and came across a car I used to own. This is a prime example of stupidity. So I sold this to a friend of mine who drove it for a while then he sold it to a coworker of his a while back. This is a 96 e300 diesel. A couple of months ago my friend said she was wanting to get rid of it. Anyway it turned up at the junk yard. It had auction stickers on it as well as a dealer stock tag, which turned out to be one of my customers. If I had noticed it in their inventory I could have picked it up cheap. So this was a perfectly good car, she traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction. LKQ bought it there. So apparently they buy perfectly fine running cars at the auction to part out. Sad. The car appears to have just arrived and only had the condenser removed. I spend a couple of hours there stripping off anything of value. I ended up spending about $200 which was probably $800 or more worth of parts on eBay. Here is my question, has anybody
pulled an engine fore at one of these places? Knowing the car I really want to go back for the engine before somebody starts hacking away at it. I see they have a frames out there but I am unsure about pulling one on site. If just hacking lines and cables should come out pretty quick I guess, just worried about the logistics of actually doing the pulling and getting it out of there.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please

Go for it.  I would love to see the diesel V6 in this car

clay



On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

> Stop me from buying this.
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html
> 
> Looks like a good deal, even for parts.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

For private sales, that might work.  Even professional dealers who just want to 
move product.  This car has a break even point and has been stored for a few 
years, along with a bunch of other iron in the parking lot.  Pretty surprising 
the number of people who think they can get a repair for cheap, then walk away 
from their cars.  Had I been expecting the low ballers, I would have priced the 
car far higher, so that the half price trick would get the car gone at the 
proper price.

clay

On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>  
>> 
> 
> 
> However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the asking price.
> My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in the past 
> year in that manner.
> He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and buys the 
> vehicle.
> A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they don't get 
> an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first offer they get.
> 
> I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used car 
> dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would go around 
> on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from private sellers. He 
> never paid more than about half of what the asking price was. He would often 
> just suggest to the seller that they were unlikely to get any better offers 
> and advise he was prepared to pay cash immediately and would get the vehicle 
> for his price.
> Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient parking 
> and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.
> 
> RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile

There is nothing wrong with the older ones. Most issues would have been fixed 
long ago. I am crazy but I am going to look at a 92 600SEL.

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> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have pretty much resigned myself to never buying a W140 that's older than 
> 1996/7. Once you cross that threshold there are so many potential issues to 
> deal with its just not worth hassling with them.
> 
> Nice car, however. Looks like it could be a good deal for someone who is 
> looking for a W140 diesel.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There was one similar, can't remember what year, at the local mech shop a 
>> few years back.  I think it had a bad head, something, the owner (a 
>> Kiawhite) apparently just walked away from it.  I tried to get it for $700, 
>> he wanted $1100 or $1200 and wouldn't budge.  It finally disappeared after 
>> sitting for a year or two.  It was a very nice car, clean, except for that 
>> problem.  I think we discussed it, sourcing a head would not have been a big 
>> issue, would have been a nice car but I was being cheepcheep.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 3/23/16 1:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Somebody needs to jump on that quick
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 $3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] expanding the reach

2016-03-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 23/03/2016 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My stock question applies to this seller:  "Please list what repairs would
be needed to make this car mechanically and cosmetically perfect?"




The stock response to a question posed like that has to be "jack up the 
key and slide a new car under it".


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[MBZ] OT: One Year Free Newegg Permier Membership for Military

2016-03-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes

http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/16-1748/index.html

Applies to: Active Duty
Reserve/Guard
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile

I have pretty much resigned myself to never buying a W140 that's older than 
1996/7. Once you cross that threshold there are so many potential issues to 
deal with its just not worth hassling with them.

Nice car, however. Looks like it could be a good deal for someone who is 
looking for a W140 diesel.

Dan

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> wrote:
> 
> There was one similar, can't remember what year, at the local mech shop a few 
> years back.  I think it had a bad head, something, the owner (a Kiawhite) 
> apparently just walked away from it.  I tried to get it for $700, he wanted 
> $1100 or $1200 and wouldn't budge.  It finally disappeared after sitting for 
> a year or two.  It was a very nice car, clean, except for that problem.  I 
> think we discussed it, sourcing a head would not have been a big issue, would 
> have been a nice car but I was being cheepcheep.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 3/23/16 1:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Somebody needs to jump on that quick
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> $3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html
>>> 
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile

There was one similar, can't remember what year, at the local mech shop 
a few years back.  I think it had a bad head, something, the owner (a 
Kiawhite) apparently just walked away from it.  I tried to get it for 
$700, he wanted $1100 or $1200 and wouldn't budge.  It finally 
disappeared after sitting for a year or two.  It was a very nice car, 
clean, except for that problem.  I think we discussed it, sourcing a 
head would not have been a big issue, would have been a nice car but I 
was being cheepcheep.


--R

On 3/23/16 1:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Somebody needs to jump on that quick

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On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

$3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please

U that is the steal if the year it looks like. Jump on it quick 

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> Stop me from buying this.
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> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html
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> Looks like a good deal, even for parts.
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile

Somebody needs to jump on that quick 

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> $3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please

2016-03-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


V-8?  'Nother idiot.

Wilton

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Stop me from buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html

Looks like a good deal, even for parts.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please

I bet he's missing the title...

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> You missed the GREAT V-8 GOOD DIESEL
>
> EdB
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> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Take weaponry if you go.
> >
> > It does have broken ABS though and drive sunroof.
> >
> > POWER LOCKS ABS BREAKS LEATHER SEATS AM FM CD RADIO HEAT/AC
> >
> > POWER WINDOWS THIS CAR RUNS AND DRIVE SUNROOF
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 3/23/16 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Stop me from buying this.
> >>
> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html
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> >> Looks like a good deal, even for parts.
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Re: [MBZ] Could be Andrew's next car -- Replaced 3 ball joints

Somebody is color blind.  Looks to be diamond blue.

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> a perfect uber car
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Re: [MBZ] could be on the crack pipe

Ready for "an easy full restoration". LOL

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Re: [MBZ] expanding the reach

My stock question applies to this seller:  "Please list what repairs would
be needed to make this car mechanically and cosmetically perfect?"

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> That 240D 4sp shows up on the Charleston CL
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please

2016-03-23 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

You missed the GREAT V-8 GOOD DIESEL

EdB

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> Take weaponry if you go.
>
> It does have broken ABS though and drive sunroof.
>
> POWER LOCKS ABS BREAKS LEATHER SEATS AM FM CD RADIO HEAT/AC
>
> POWER WINDOWS THIS CAR RUNS AND DRIVE SUNROOF
>
> --R
>
>
> On 3/23/16 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
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>> Stop me from buying this.
>>
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html
>>
>> Looks like a good deal, even for parts.
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[MBZ] Could be Andrew's next car -- Replaced 3 ball joints


a perfect uber car

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5485374392.html

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[MBZ] 1993 Mercedes 300SD Poosmobile


$3500  https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5495612019.html

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[MBZ] could be on the crack pipe


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5498768172.html

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[MBZ] expanding the reach


That 240D 4sp shows up on the Charleston CL

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5496313769.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Please


Take weaponry if you go.

It does have broken ABS though and drive sunroof.

POWER LOCKS ABS BREAKS LEATHER SEATS AM FM CD RADIO HEAT/AC

POWER WINDOWS THIS CAR RUNS AND DRIVE SUNROOF

--R

On 3/23/16 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Stop me from buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html

Looks like a good deal, even for parts.

Rick

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[MBZ] Somebody Please

2016-03-23 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Stop me from buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5504439512.html

Looks like a good deal, even for parts.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Low Ball Larry

2016-03-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 22/03/2016 6:10 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

These bottom feeders are irritating.  They think that making rather insultingly 
low offers will get them a great car.  That I am stupid enough to have them win 
the lottery.   If all they can afford is a low end car, they should shop for 
junk, instead of expecting to steal a car far beyond their abilities.


---
clay


I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
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However, sellers will very often take a whole lot less than the asking 
price.
My son works with a fellow who has purchased a couple of vehicles in the 
past year in that manner.
He calls the seller up and offers a fraction of the asking price and 
buys the vehicle.
A lot of people really don't want the hassle of selling and if they 
don't get an immediate offer of what they asked, will take the first 
offer they get.


I also had a client a few years back who was sort of a backyard used car 
dealer. He had a licence etc but no real store front shop. He would go 
around on weekends with a pocket full of cash and buy cars from private 
sellers. He never paid more than about half of what the asking price 
was. He would often just suggest to the seller that they were unlikely 
to get any better offers and advise he was prepared to pay cash 
immediately and would get the vehicle for his price.
Sellers have often replaced the car already and don't have sufficient 
parking and do not wish to continue to pay licence and insurance etc.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Sheep boy is holding out on us

2016-03-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

With the manual transmission, I'm sure it does ok, but it would make a great 
candidate for installing a 2.5 turbo engine.

Manual climate controls!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 23, 2016 9:53:20 AM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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>Can that thing even get out of its own way?  Might be fit for the
>Queen, 
>"stately" and all...
>
>--R
>
>On 3/22/16 9:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-200D-/401093262992?forcerrptr=true=item5d63057e90:g:tCgAAOSwGYVW8eox=401093262992
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Re: [MBZ] Duo valve

Sorry. I just know about them as some of the W140 people mentioned them.

The duo valve on Tommy's former S420 doesn't want to work, which down here 
isn't an issue with very few exceptions. I've got a spare but the motor is 
noisy, so I'm not going to swap it.

I suspect the valves are shot on it but I'm not that interested in fixing it at 
his point.

Dan

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> They don't seem to have one for the 210 valves, of which there are 2 
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>> These guys:
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>> http://www.hongmei.com.tw/shop/benz/mercedes-benz-w140-heater-control-valve-repair-kit-03/
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> Really, where?
>>> 
 On 3/22/2016 9:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 You can get rebuild kits out of Taiwan for about $40.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Sheep boy is holding out on us

Can that thing even get out of its own way?  Might be fit for the Queen, 
"stately" and all...


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Duo valve

2016-03-23 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

I noticed that occasionally I would feel blasts of hot air on my legs
driving around with the AC on auto. It would last about 20 seconds or so
then go away.

Bob R
On Mar 22, 2016 5:24 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> The duo valve on my 98 210 seems to be having issues.  Since I have had
> the car the drivers side would randomly go full hot in the summer time.
> Passenger side was fine.  After pulling the radiator for the belt tensioner
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> work fine and other times one side or the other will go to full hot.  Do
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Re: [MBZ] Duo valve

They don't seem to have one for the 210 valves, of which there are 2 different 
versions.

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>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Really, where?
>> 
>>> On 3/22/2016 9:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Dan
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