Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Dimitri. I have a few 124 wheels that you may have. Most are typical used rims, all are useful. Fred. On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:25 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is the transaction based on actual value of bartered goods or on money > exchanged ($0)? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > > > > 10 percent of this transaction goes to the House. > > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Thanks. Sounds like a good approach! > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I > >> > discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for > Mercedes > >> > / wheels. > >> > The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap. > >> > Tip: Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug > bolt, > >> > then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the > >> > extending grip length of the protruding threads. > >> > That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely > mount a > >> > wheel. > >> > > >> > Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the > stud you > >> > now have. Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter > wheel > >> > stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on > ebay, or > >> > amazon, or wherever you find the length you need. > >> > > >> > Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and > >> > stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs. > >> > Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs > yer > >> > Unkle" ... Happy motoring. > >> > > >> > As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express > >> > shipping. > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the > >> >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 > hole > >> >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding > >> >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake > drum > >> >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I > safely > >> >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a > uniform look > >> >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole > wheels as I > >> >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Is the transaction based on actual value of bartered goods or on money exchanged ($0)? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > 10 percent of this transaction goes to the House. > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Thanks. Sounds like a good approach! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I >> > discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for Mercedes >> > / wheels. >> > The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap. >> > Tip: Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug bolt, >> > then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the >> > extending grip length of the protruding threads. >> > That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely mount a >> > wheel. >> > >> > Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the stud you >> > now have. Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter wheel >> > stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on ebay, or >> > amazon, or wherever you find the length you need. >> > >> > Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and >> > stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs. >> > Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs yer >> > Unkle" ... Happy motoring. >> > >> > As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express >> > shipping. >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the >> >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole >> >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding >> >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum >> >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely >> >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look >> >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as >> >> I >> >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
10 percent of this transaction goes to the House. On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks. Sounds like a good approach! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I > > discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for > Mercedes > > / wheels. > > The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap. > > Tip: Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug bolt, > > then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the > > extending grip length of the protruding threads. > > That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely mount > a > > wheel. > > > > Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the stud > you > > now have. Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter > wheel > > stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on ebay, or > > amazon, or wherever you find the length you need. > > > > Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and > > stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs. > > Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs yer > > Unkle" ... Happy motoring. > > > > As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express > > shipping. > > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the > >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole > >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding > >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake > drum > >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I > safely > >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform > look > >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels > as I > >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Also a good approach. Hopefully I can do the trade with Max for his 15 hole rims thereby eliminating the problem altogether! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Bend a length of stiff wire with a short "L" on the end. With the wheel > mounted, remove one bolt, insert the "L" end of the wire, and feel where it > goes through the drum. Mark the outside to measure the length. Compare that > to the bolt - I'd want the bolts to be a little (1mm ?) shorter than the > total length of the hole. > Yes - there were different length bolts for different wheels, and the > aftermarket wheels used yet another bolt length. > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 11:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Thanks. Sounds like a good approach! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I > discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for Mercedes > / wheels. > The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap. > Tip: Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug bolt, > then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the > extending grip length of the protruding threads. > That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely mount a > wheel. > > Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the stud you > now have. Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter wheel > stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on ebay, or > amazon, or wherever you find the length you need. > > Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and > stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs. > Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs yer > Unkle" ... Happy motoring. > > As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express > shipping. > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Yes I’m game. Sending you an email off list. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Maybe we can work a trade on those rims, I've got a set (well 3 good and > one that may be bent from the collision) of the older 15 hole version (from > Wilton's '87 300D) and I need a set of the newer for my '95 cabriolet, > which has some awful aftermarket type that use rubber bands instead of > tires. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look >> here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I >> like them better but for now I just want uniformity. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Maybe we can work a trade on those rims, I've got a set (well 3 good and one that may be bent from the collision) of the older 15 hole version (from Wilton's '87 300D) and I need a set of the newer for my '95 cabriolet, which has some awful aftermarket type that use rubber bands instead of tires. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the > original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole > wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding > noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum > somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely > use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look > here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I > like them better but for now I just want uniformity. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for Mercedes / wheels. The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap. Tip: Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug bolt, then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the extending grip length of the protruding threads. That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely mount a wheel. Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the stud you now have. Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter wheel stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on ebay, or amazon, or wherever you find the length you need. Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs. Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs yer Unkle" ... Happy motoring. As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express shipping. On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the > original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole > wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding > noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum > somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely > use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look > here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I > like them better but for now I just want uniformity. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
Bend a length of stiff wire with a short "L" on the end. With the wheel mounted, remove one bolt, insert the "L" end of the wire, and feel where it goes through the drum. Mark the outside to measure the length. Compare that to the bolt - I'd want the bolts to be a little (1mm ?) shorter than the total length of the hole. Yes - there were different length bolts for different wheels, and the aftermarket wheels used yet another bolt length. On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 11:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the > original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole > wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding > noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum > somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely > use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look > here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I > like them better but for now I just want uniformity. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124
The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8 hole wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake drum somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I safely use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a uniform look here. Ideally I’d like to find an original clean set of 15 hole wheels as I like them better but for now I just want uniformity. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
