Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Gene drove from his place in Des Moines to Jefferson yesterday (about an
hour) in his pickup, dragged his brother's race trailer home (another hour),
and hauled the 190D back to Jefferson (another hour) so Jeff, his older
brother and mechanic extraordinary, could work on the problem. Jeff did
exactly what I told Gene to do and what others suggested -- crack the
injector line and crank until you get fuel. Problem solved within ten
minutes and the 190D took Gene back to Des Moines this afternoon.



On 9/13/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I now (after a LONG cranking session once before) loosen the injector
> lines at the injectors, have someone else crank while I watch, and
> tighten the lines as they start to leak fuel - it re-fills the lines
> MUCH faster than just cranking --
>
> On 9/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand
> > > primer
> > > pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
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> -Benjamin Disraeli
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[MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-14 Thread Robert Bigham
Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:07:35 -0400
Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand primer
> pump. Where is it? '84 190D.
> 
No hand primer. Fill the large fuel filter with clean diesel, Diesel 
Purge or even ATF and crank the engine. May take a minute or two but it 
will start. Next time don't let it go dry!
Marshall
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Comment from the cheap seats:

If it were a VW diesel, crack the union nuts at the injectors. Crank until
fuel appears at the loose nuts, usually one by one. It won't take long.   
Tighten them. Engine should start quickly.

The first diesel VW's had a hand primer pumps (one model year, I think). 
After that they don't.  Above is procedure from Bentley Manual. It works. 



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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread OK Don
I now (after a LONG cranking session once before) loosen the injector
lines at the injectors, have someone else crank while I watch, and
tighten the lines as they start to leak fuel - it re-fills the lines
MUCH faster than just cranking --

On 9/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand
> > primer
> > pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.

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'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:54:34 -0500 "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > That would explain it. Thanks.
> 
> IIRC one can use WD40 as starting fluid in diesels. He might try that.
> (as opposed to ether.. ether is a no-no)

Uhh ...  no.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Cathey
> Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand 
> primer
> pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.

As you know, there isn't one.  I used my 'clean' grease gun to
force-prime my 190D after the injection pump removal.  Then I
switched the hose back to the feed pipe.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
Thanks, Marshall. I shall pass this along to him.

Don


On 9/13/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand
> primer
> > pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.
> >
>
> No hand primer. Fill the large fuel filter with clean diesel, Diesel
> Purge or even ATF and crank the engine. May take a minute or two but it
> will start. Next time don't let it go dry!
>
> Marshall
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> Ass't Prof. (ret.)
> Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Marshall Booth
Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand primer
> pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.
> 

No hand primer. Fill the large fuel filter with clean diesel, Diesel 
Purge or even ATF and crank the engine. May take a minute or two but it 
will start. Next time don't let it go dry!

Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
If it's the same as the 602, owners manual says to crank with WOT. Don't ask
me how I know.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

That would explain it. Thanks.


On 9/13/07, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand
> primer
> > pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.
>
> t'ain't one. Crank it 'till it starts
>
> Hope he's got a good battery.
>
> Rick Knoble
> '85 300 CD
> '87 190 DT
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Rick Knoble
> That would explain it. Thanks.

IIRC one can use WD40 as starting fluid in diesels. He might try that. (as 
opposed to ether.. ether is a no-no)

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
That would explain it. Thanks.


On 9/13/07, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand
> primer
> > pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.
>
> t'ain't one. Crank it 'till it starts
>
> Hope he's got a good battery.
>
> Rick Knoble
> '85 300 CD
> '87 190 DT
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Rick Knoble
> Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand primer
> pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.

t'ain't one. Crank it 'till it starts 

Hope he's got a good battery.

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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[MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump

2007-09-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand primer
pump. Where is it?  '84 190D.

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