Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread tracy latimer
Anyone know a good novena for Sister Mary Meteorite of Our Lady of the 
Sikhote-Alin? :-)

Tracy Latimer

Personally, I'm looking forward to meeting the nuns if they're really going 
to Tucson.

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Re: [meteorite-list] adams county and karval

2003-12-29 Thread David Freeman
Cough, Cough!  My Meteorites A to Z has Adams County on page 11 and 
Karval on page 57.   I wonder if the authors or others would sell a copy 
to the collector who has no reference books?  Would make another good 
topic for Proud Tom's web site lampoon.
Dave F (who loves to gather reference materials)
Not Proud Tom
eBay user I D with auctions running!

fcressy wrote:

Hello Steve and all,

You might consider purchasing Matt Morgan's book on Colorado meteorites. It
would be a great investment for your latest collecting direction...or even
the Catelogue of Meteorites.
Regards,
Frank
- Original Message -
From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] adams county and karval

Hey can any of you colorado meteorite people tell me about adams county
and karval meteorites?I won the 2 on ebay and would like to know something
about them.
   steve arnold, chicago

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Re: [meteorite-list] adams county and karval

2003-12-29 Thread fcressy
Hello Steve and all,

You might consider purchasing Matt Morgan's book on Colorado meteorites. It
would be a great investment for your latest collecting direction...or even
the Catelogue of Meteorites.
Regards,
Frank

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] adams county and karval


> Hey can any of you colorado meteorite people tell me about adams county
> and karval meteorites?I won the 2 on ebay and would like to know something
> about them.
>
> steve arnold, chicago
>
> =
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> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
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> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
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[meteorite-list] adams county and karval

2003-12-29 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hey can any of you colorado meteorite people tell me about adams county
and karval meteorites?I won the 2 on ebay and would like to know something
about them.

steve arnold, chicago

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Illinois Meteorites 
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[meteorite-list] Attention Jamie Platt

2003-12-29 Thread Michel Franco
Dear List

I can't contact Jamie directly and use this list to do it. Please apologizes
for this private use of the list.
best wishes
Michel FRANCO

Jamie:

Once again a probelm lead to reject the last email I send you. Have you
another one , to avoid using the list fopr our private messages ?
- Original Message - 
From: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact


> Jamie
>
> Yes I have tried to contcat you several times and your emails were
rejected.
>
> I was proposing a 74 g individual to replace the 54 g sold before and was
> asking for your agreement .
>
> Best regards.
>
> Michel
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jamie Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact
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> > Michel -
> > I'm here on the list but to email me individually use [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'd
> > emailed a question to you a few days ago that I assume you are trying to
> > respond to, so I look forward to hearing from you. Take care.
> >
> > Jamie Platt
> > Heaven Sent Alpacas
> > 2842 Townline Rd
> > Madison Ohio 44057
> > (440)259-3564
> > www.HSAlpacas.com
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> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michel
> > Franco
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:03 PM
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> > Dear List
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> > I am triing to send an email to Jamie ( Platt2oo on Ebay).
> > my  emails to him are rejected by the net !
> > Does anyone has anothe email for him ?
> >
> > best regards
> > and happy new year.
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[meteorite-list] Check out Astronomy & Space Calendars

2003-12-29 Thread BOORX4


Hi List Members,
 
Since Roman isn't making a meteorite calendar this year, I have been wondering how to solve this problem.
My newest idea is to make the 2004 date part of a calendar and paste it over last years dates of my 2003 meteorite calendar.  I realize that I am seeing the meteorites all over again but they are so nice it is worth seeing them once more.  Besides, this beats looking at dogs, cats, Dallas cowgirls ( well maybe) or some other generic photo.
 
If you desire an astronomy or space calendar then check out this site.
Click here: Astronomy & Space Calendars 
 
Happy New Years,
Bob


[meteorite-list] ** Tucson 2004 Information **

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Harris
Dear List,

We now have a "Tucson 2004" link from MeteoriteTimes.
Please review and add your Tucson information by either
replying to this e-mail or from our "Tucson 2004" page.
http://www.meteoritetimes.com/

Thank you all and Happy New Year!

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[meteorite-list] very bad news

2003-12-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Dear List Members,
Most unfortunately, a good friend and member of this list,
Richard Learn died of complications of surgery last week.
I was just notified by his son.
Those of you lucky enough to know Richard know
what a sharp, upbeat and kind individual he was. We
have all lost something irreplaceable.
Regretfully, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread Marcia Swanson
Dear Michael,
I know if anyone is a pillar of propriety on the list, you are, thats
why I made sure I added the endearment and smiley face after the
comment.
I really do have the Best interests of our List at heart. I was not
offended. Indeed, when I first joined, you were one of the first people
nice enough to introduce yourself and offer your services and a link to
your then website, in April of this year. I am a Believer, but I am not
a fanatatic, and try to keep that as off-list as people let me. When you
made the post about waking up smelling smoke, and calling for prayers a
few months back, I did just that. The comment about being struck by
lightening for offending Nuns, was made more tongue in cheek. Sorry you
misunderstood my meaning.
I was invited to join Matteo's list, a month or more ago. I posted a
letter to our list, a note of intent and declaration, that I was going
to check it out, last month, and why ( check the archives if you have
doubt). I have been reading his posts, but have not addressed this List
yet. I am not a tale-carrier, but in this one case, when Steve mentioned
the nuns and Tuscon, I know he thought it wasa joke, but having read the
posts on the other list, I knew that she was serious, which is why I
broke my self-imposed confidentuality  rule, to let you all know that it
was NOT a joke. I was honestly trying to keep up our reputation, and
respect her privacy as an alternative group andas a fellow-meteorite
collector, let her know, and others on that list know, that mentioned
coming to Tucson, that one person ( Steve), did not represent the
feelings of our whole group, and to future meteorite enthusiasts,ect.,
whatever their slot in everyday life is, as collectors they are welcome.
That's all.  Sorry  for the misunderstanding, and thank-you for the
compliment., and explanation.
Hope we can put this behind us, I have.  High Regards Michael, Marcie

--- Begin Message ---
Dear Marci,
I NEVER would have publicly reproduced your email had
I known it was, in fact, a private one. However, it was designated
"[meteorite-list]" in the subject box - I, therefore, thought it
had come from the list - even though, when I hit "Reply All" it
failed to include the list address - I thought it was a glitch and
pasted the list address "back" in.
Entirely sorry if you were offended in any way. Certainly not
my intent, and I do apologize for making a private post public. I
consider that VERY poor form, indeed.
However, this is something all list members should be aware of:
Leaving "[meteorite-list]" in the subject box of PRIVATE emails leaves
a lot of room for mistaken communication:
1) Many of us get TONS of email and do not always read each and
every list post, so, your private email may well go unread
2) It could easily lead to the mistake you see here
3) It does not reflect the best "protocol" one might hope for in
correspondence (honestly, no slam intended here, Marci - you
are clearly a kind and intelligent person and we are all lucky to
have another female on the meteorite list! A rare type, the female
meteorite enthusiast).
Best wishes to all, Michael


on 12/29/03 2:03 PM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Michael, Michael, Michael..tsk, tsk. You jolly fellow you!  : )  and
> List,
> Was going to reply off- list, like I did in the letter you forwarded
> publically of mine just now, then decided what the heck, since
> inquisitive minds want to know ( good one! touchee') I may as well save
> some time and let you know what is in my head ,on-list.
> I guess, it's a matter of definition. These are not not JUST Nuns they
> are Meteorite-collecting, enthusiasts and Nuns, whom I figured deserved
> the respect and consideration this list has always shown newcomers to
> our community before.  Because of a misunderstanding, or lack of facts,
> as to their originality of  intent on going to Tuscon, I did not figure
> they would understand or appreciate the sometimes humorous banter we
> reserve to ourselves as members of THIS list,but knew that they might be
> made aware of it, as they belong to another list, that is headed by
> Matteo. Thus, I made the statement to make our  List members aware
> enough, not to get the reception Steve unwittingly got, or give the
> impression to the Nuns that we were being rude or inhospitable, as a
> group. Though I won't be able to go, I've been on-list long enough to
> know, that Tuscon, is a much looked forward to, and supposed to be, a
> fun. educational and festive gala event, amoung meteorite Collectors,
> ect.and ALL. Was just trying to help keep it that way Michael. That just
> about sums it up, as far as my intentions, and what was in my head. Be
> rest assured, though in my letter to you, you may have misunderstood my
> humor and intent, if so I apologise for that.  Best Regards and R.S.V.P.
> Michael, if you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them,
> Marcie
> 
> 
> From: Michael L Blood <[EM

Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Dear Marci,
I NEVER would have publicly reproduced your email had
I known it was, in fact, a private one. However, it was designated
"[meteorite-list]" in the subject box - I, therefore, thought it
had come from the list - even though, when I hit "Reply All" it
failed to include the list address - I thought it was a glitch and
pasted the list address "back" in.
Entirely sorry if you were offended in any way. Certainly not
my intent, and I do apologize for making a private post public. I
consider that VERY poor form, indeed.
However, this is something all list members should be aware of:
Leaving "[meteorite-list]" in the subject box of PRIVATE emails leaves
a lot of room for mistaken communication:
1) Many of us get TONS of email and do not always read each and
every list post, so, your private email may well go unread
2) It could easily lead to the mistake you see here
3) It does not reflect the best "protocol" one might hope for in
correspondence (honestly, no slam intended here, Marci - you
are clearly a kind and intelligent person and we are all lucky to
have another female on the meteorite list! A rare type, the female
meteorite enthusiast).
Best wishes to all, Michael


on 12/29/03 2:03 PM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Michael, Michael, Michael..tsk, tsk. You jolly fellow you!  : )  and
> List,
> Was going to reply off- list, like I did in the letter you forwarded
> publically of mine just now, then decided what the heck, since
> inquisitive minds want to know ( good one! touchee') I may as well save
> some time and let you know what is in my head ,on-list.
> I guess, it's a matter of definition. These are not not JUST Nuns they
> are Meteorite-collecting, enthusiasts and Nuns, whom I figured deserved
> the respect and consideration this list has always shown newcomers to
> our community before.  Because of a misunderstanding, or lack of facts,
> as to their originality of  intent on going to Tuscon, I did not figure
> they would understand or appreciate the sometimes humorous banter we
> reserve to ourselves as members of THIS list,but knew that they might be
> made aware of it, as they belong to another list, that is headed by
> Matteo. Thus, I made the statement to make our  List members aware
> enough, not to get the reception Steve unwittingly got, or give the
> impression to the Nuns that we were being rude or inhospitable, as a
> group. Though I won't be able to go, I've been on-list long enough to
> know, that Tuscon, is a much looked forward to, and supposed to be, a
> fun. educational and festive gala event, amoung meteorite Collectors,
> ect.and ALL. Was just trying to help keep it that way Michael. That just
> about sums it up, as far as my intentions, and what was in my head. Be
> rest assured, though in my letter to you, you may have misunderstood my
> humor and intent, if so I apologise for that.  Best Regards and R.S.V.P.
> Michael, if you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them,
> Marcie
> 
> 
> From: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:28 AM
> To: Marcia Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
> 
> Marcie,
> WHAT ON EARTH do you think is going to happen here (or in Tucson)
> that would be such a disaster? They are just NUNS, for Pete's sake.
> Really, what is going on in your mind? Inquisitive folks want to
> know. 
> RSVP
> Michael
> 
> 
> on 12/29/03 11:23 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Tell you what John. you 'd make one heck of a  better 'on the
>> scene", late breaking investigating news reporter, and comedian and
>> strory-teller, with flair, than I do as a
>> Goodwwill peace ambassador !  :  )I wonder if Henry
>> Kissenger ever had bad hair days, on tour duty? Of course he did, that's
>> what made him go bald!  If Proud Tom opens this keg, I think I may
>> consider early retirement, at least on the Front Lines anyway, less
>> chance of shrapnel.
>> I know Steve thougt it was a joke, and I might have thought so too, if I
>> hadn't known better. But he pratt-fell right into this one,
>> by..being Steve. I  didn't see his first post (Dec.26) till Dec.28,
>> when I got back on-line, and was checking my mail., too late to stop the
>> downhill snowball. Saw other members innocently joining in, what seemed
>> to be a joke, and that's why I wrote him On-list, so they all would know
>> the truth, before somebody would say something really whacked, and
>> Matteo would pick up on it,and take offence, or it would be a situation
>> at the Tucson show, with the Nuns.
>> Kind of nip it in the bud, type situation? FORGOT about Proud Tom.,
>> lurking "somewhere out there between the inner mind and the Outer
>> Limits." End of Story? We'll see.
>> Best Regards, Marcie
>> 
>> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:

Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread Marcia Swanson
Michael, Michael, Michael..tsk, tsk. You jolly fellow you!  : )  and
List,
Was going to reply off- list, like I did in the letter you forwarded
publically of mine just now, then decided what the heck, since
inquisitive minds want to know ( good one! touchee') I may as well save
some time and let you know what is in my head ,on-list.
I guess, it's a matter of definition. These are not not JUST Nuns they
are Meteorite-collecting, enthusiasts and Nuns, whom I figured deserved
the respect and consideration this list has always shown newcomers to
our community before.  Because of a misunderstanding, or lack of facts,
as to their originality of  intent on going to Tuscon, I did not figure
they would understand or appreciate the sometimes humorous banter we
reserve to ourselves as members of THIS list,but knew that they might be
made aware of it, as they belong to another list, that is headed by
Matteo. Thus, I made the statement to make our  List members aware
enough, not to get the reception Steve unwittingly got, or give the
impression to the Nuns that we were being rude or inhospitable, as a
group. Though I won't be able to go, I've been on-list long enough to
know, that Tuscon, is a much looked forward to, and supposed to be, a
fun. educational and festive gala event, amoung meteorite Collectors,
ect.and ALL. Was just trying to help keep it that way Michael. That just
about sums it up, as far as my intentions, and what was in my head. Be
rest assured, though in my letter to you, you may have misunderstood my
humor and intent, if so I apologise for that.  Best Regards and R.S.V.P.
Michael, if you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them,
Marcie

--- Begin Message ---
Marcie,
WHAT ON EARTH do you think is going to happen here (or in Tucson)
that would be such a disaster? They are just NUNS, for Pete's sake.
Really, what is going on in your mind? Inquisitive folks want to
know. 
RSVP
Michael


on 12/29/03 11:23 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell you what John. you 'd make one heck of a  better 'on the
> scene", late breaking investigating news reporter, and comedian and
> strory-teller, with flair, than I do as a
> Goodwwill peace ambassador !  :  )I wonder if Henry
> Kissenger ever had bad hair days, on tour duty? Of course he did, that's
> what made him go bald!  If Proud Tom opens this keg, I think I may
> consider early retirement, at least on the Front Lines anyway, less
> chance of shrapnel.
> I know Steve thougt it was a joke, and I might have thought so too, if I
> hadn't known better. But he pratt-fell right into this one,
> by..being Steve. I  didn't see his first post (Dec.26) till Dec.28,
> when I got back on-line, and was checking my mail., too late to stop the
> downhill snowball. Saw other members innocently joining in, what seemed
> to be a joke, and that's why I wrote him On-list, so they all would know
> the truth, before somebody would say something really whacked, and
> Matteo would pick up on it,and take offence, or it would be a situation
> at the Tucson show, with the Nuns.
> Kind of nip it in the bud, type situation? FORGOT about Proud Tom.,
> lurking "somewhere out there between the inner mind and the Outer
> Limits." End of Story? We'll see.
> Best Regards, Marcie
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Marcia Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
> 
> Possible Proud Tom Headline:  NUN WANTS TO SAVE METEORITE FROM BREAKUP!!
> 
> storyline: Sister Mary Meteorite, an avid collector from Georgia, comes to
> the rescue of the Humpty Dumpty puzzle stone by threatening famous Nevada
> meteorite dealer Steve Arnold(not-IMB) with eternal damnation if he to didn't
> put back it back together for good. Steve's immediate response was
> typical: "Does anybody want to trade, buy or sell something, anything?".
> 
> Steve's Next day Rebuttal Comment to the List:
> 
> "Leave me alone Sister Mary, remember I said I was in it for the
> Science...and I know the Big Guy will understand, my wanting to share and
> all. And don't call me Bart."
> 
> What will happen next???
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Feverish John
> 
> PS Tom, please respond to my request to be on the staff. I've got better
> material I'm sure.
> 
> 
> 
>> This all sounds like fabulous fodder for PROUD TOM.
>> I can hardly wait..
>> Michael
>> 
>> on 12/28/03 9:50 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Steve,
>>> Firstly, hope you had a great Christmas. Secondly, I was really
>>> dissapointed, that having left town for Christmas, I missed probably, a
>>> chance I may not get again, that being, your trip to Kenosha ( my home
>>> town), on the 27th. I really wanted to meet you, and hear your stories
>>> about Park Forest, ect. !! Hope you com

Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread David Freeman
In my opinion, there are Nuns and then there are Nuns   the 
categories are...over 50 and under 50.
Possibly, having a blessing of the meteorite dealers would be a good 
ideasome could use it!
;-) Dave Freeman
eBay user ID mjwy with auctions running wild

John Gwilliam wrote:

Didn't someone else already mention the dreaded knuckle-smacking 
rulers that emotionally damaged so many in their youth?  It appears 
that one only needs mention the word "nuns" and the fear comes back to 
haunt the poor souls one more time.

Personally, I'm looking forward to meeting the nuns if they're really 
going to Tucson.

Best,
John
At 11:28 AM 12/29/03 -0800, Michael L Blood wrote:

Marcie,
WHAT ON EARTH do you think is going to happen here (or in 
Tucson)
that would be such a disaster? They are just NUNS, for Pete's sake.
Really, what is going on in your mind? Inquisitive folks want to
know.
RSVP
Michael

on 12/29/03 11:23 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell you what John. you 'd make one heck of a  better 'on the
> scene", late breaking investigating news reporter, and comedian and
> strory-teller, with flair, than I do as a
> Goodwwill peace ambassador !  :  )I wonder if 
Henry
> Kissenger ever had bad hair days, on tour duty? Of course he did, 
that's
> what made him go bald!  If Proud Tom opens this keg, I think I may
> consider early retirement, at least on the Front Lines anyway, 
less
> chance of shrapnel.
> I know Steve thougt it was a joke, and I might have thought so too, 
if I
> hadn't known better. But he pratt-fell right into this one,
> by..being Steve. I  didn't see his first post (Dec.26) till 
Dec.28,
> when I got back on-line, and was checking my mail., too late to 
stop the
> downhill snowball. Saw other members innocently joining in, what 
seemed
> to be a joke, and that's why I wrote him On-list, so they all would 
know
> the truth, before somebody would say something really whacked, and
> Matteo would pick up on it,and take offence, or it would be a 
situation
> at the Tucson show, with the Nuns.
> Kind of nip it in the bud, type situation? FORGOT about Proud Tom.,
> lurking "somewhere out there between the inner mind and the Outer
> Limits." End of Story? We'll see.
> Best Regards, Marcie
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Marcia Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
>
> Possible Proud Tom Headline:  NUN WANTS TO SAVE METEORITE FROM 
BREAKUP!!
>
> storyline: Sister Mary Meteorite, an avid collector from Georgia, 
comes to
> the rescue of the Humpty Dumpty puzzle stone by threatening famous 
Nevada
> meteorite dealer Steve Arnold(not-IMB) with eternal damnation if he 
to didn't
> put back it back together for good. Steve's immediate response was
> typical: "Does anybody want to trade, buy or sell something, 
anything?".
>
> Steve's Next day Rebuttal Comment to the List:
>
> "Leave me alone Sister Mary, remember I said I was in it for the
> Science...and I know the Big Guy will understand, my wanting to 
share and
> all. And don't call me Bart."
>
> What will happen next???
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Feverish John
>
> PS Tom, please respond to my request to be on the staff. I've got 
better
> material I'm sure.
>
>
>
>> This all sounds like fabulous fodder for PROUD TOM.
>> I can hardly wait..
>> Michael
>>
>> on 12/28/03 9:50 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Steve,
>>> Firstly, hope you had a great Christmas. Secondly, I was really
>>> dissapointed, that having left town for Christmas, I missed 
probably, a
>>> chance I may not get again, that being, your trip to Kenosha ( my 
home
>>> town), on the 27th. I really wanted to meet you, and hear your 
stories
>>> about Park Forest, ect. !! Hope you come to visit your friend here
>>> again.,  Were you able to set anything up with anyone else from 
around
>>> here? I was really dissapointed at not being able to have been 
there.
>>> Thirdly, the Nun Story, was for real. Matteo is indirectly 
involved, in
>>> that, she is a member of his new Real Meteorite List, website, 
that he
>>> started.
>>> I haven't posted to this site yet, but I do get it, over the web. 
His 9
>>> or 10, and growing, new members,  include her, and yes, she ( at 
least
>
>>> from what I've read) is a legitimate Nun. FOR REAL, Steve! There are
>>> also others on his list, that  include people who are also meteorite
>>> buyers/collectors, in this country, who  may, but probably haven't ,
>>> either accessed our site, or have, heard of it, and DO plan on 
coming to
>>> Tucson. It is open to all Meteorite entusiasts, right? She is also a
>>> legimate meteorite collector. More than that, I can't add, 
because, as I
>>> said, I haven't posted to the List, or talked to any of them 
privately.

Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread John Gwilliam
Didn't someone else already mention the dreaded knuckle-smacking rulers 
that emotionally damaged so many in their youth?  It appears that one only 
needs mention the word "nuns" and the fear comes back to haunt the poor 
souls one more time.

Personally, I'm looking forward to meeting the nuns if they're really going 
to Tucson.

Best,
John
At 11:28 AM 12/29/03 -0800, Michael L Blood wrote:
Marcie,
WHAT ON EARTH do you think is going to happen here (or in Tucson)
that would be such a disaster? They are just NUNS, for Pete's sake.
Really, what is going on in your mind? Inquisitive folks want to
know.
RSVP
Michael
on 12/29/03 11:23 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell you what John. you 'd make one heck of a  better 'on the
> scene", late breaking investigating news reporter, and comedian and
> strory-teller, with flair, than I do as a
> Goodwwill peace ambassador !  :  )I wonder if Henry
> Kissenger ever had bad hair days, on tour duty? Of course he did, that's
> what made him go bald!  If Proud Tom opens this keg, I think I may
> consider early retirement, at least on the Front Lines anyway, less
> chance of shrapnel.
> I know Steve thougt it was a joke, and I might have thought so too, if I
> hadn't known better. But he pratt-fell right into this one,
> by..being Steve. I  didn't see his first post (Dec.26) till Dec.28,
> when I got back on-line, and was checking my mail., too late to stop the
> downhill snowball. Saw other members innocently joining in, what seemed
> to be a joke, and that's why I wrote him On-list, so they all would know
> the truth, before somebody would say something really whacked, and
> Matteo would pick up on it,and take offence, or it would be a situation
> at the Tucson show, with the Nuns.
> Kind of nip it in the bud, type situation? FORGOT about Proud Tom.,
> lurking "somewhere out there between the inner mind and the Outer
> Limits." End of Story? We'll see.
> Best Regards, Marcie
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Marcia Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
>
> Possible Proud Tom Headline:  NUN WANTS TO SAVE METEORITE FROM BREAKUP!!
>
> storyline: Sister Mary Meteorite, an avid collector from Georgia, comes to
> the rescue of the Humpty Dumpty puzzle stone by threatening famous Nevada
> meteorite dealer Steve Arnold(not-IMB) with eternal damnation if he to 
didn't
> put back it back together for good. Steve's immediate response was
> typical: "Does anybody want to trade, buy or sell something, anything?".
>
> Steve's Next day Rebuttal Comment to the List:
>
> "Leave me alone Sister Mary, remember I said I was in it for the
> Science...and I know the Big Guy will understand, my wanting to share and
> all. And don't call me Bart."
>
> What will happen next???
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Feverish John
>
> PS Tom, please respond to my request to be on the staff. I've got better
> material I'm sure.
>
>
>
>> This all sounds like fabulous fodder for PROUD TOM.
>> I can hardly wait..
>> Michael
>>
>> on 12/28/03 9:50 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Steve,
>>> Firstly, hope you had a great Christmas. Secondly, I was really
>>> dissapointed, that having left town for Christmas, I missed probably, a
>>> chance I may not get again, that being, your trip to Kenosha ( my home
>>> town), on the 27th. I really wanted to meet you, and hear your stories
>>> about Park Forest, ect. !! Hope you come to visit your friend here
>>> again.,  Were you able to set anything up with anyone else from around
>>> here? I was really dissapointed at not being able to have been there.
>>> Thirdly, the Nun Story, was for real. Matteo is indirectly involved, in
>>> that, she is a member of his new Real Meteorite List, website, that he
>>> started.
>>> I haven't posted to this site yet, but I do get it, over the web. His 9
>>> or 10, and growing, new members,  include her, and yes, she ( at least
>
>>> from what I've read) is a legitimate Nun. FOR REAL, Steve! There are
>>> also others on his list, that  include people who are also meteorite
>>> buyers/collectors, in this country, who  may, but probably haven't ,
>>> either accessed our site, or have, heard of it, and DO plan on coming to
>>> Tucson. It is open to all Meteorite entusiasts, right? She is also a
>>> legimate meteorite collector. More than that, I can't add, because, as I
>>> said, I haven't posted to the List, or talked to any of them privately.
>>> Thought I'd let you know. Hope your New Year, brings you another
>>> Great Fall, like you mentioned. Have a good one. Best Regards, Marcie
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Friday, December 26, 2003 11:39 AM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] the nun

Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me

2003-12-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Marcie,
WHAT ON EARTH do you think is going to happen here (or in Tucson)
that would be such a disaster? They are just NUNS, for Pete's sake.
Really, what is going on in your mind? Inquisitive folks want to
know. 
RSVP
Michael


on 12/29/03 11:23 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell you what John. you 'd make one heck of a  better 'on the
> scene", late breaking investigating news reporter, and comedian and
> strory-teller, with flair, than I do as a
> Goodwwill peace ambassador !  :  )I wonder if Henry
> Kissenger ever had bad hair days, on tour duty? Of course he did, that's
> what made him go bald!  If Proud Tom opens this keg, I think I may
> consider early retirement, at least on the Front Lines anyway, less
> chance of shrapnel.
> I know Steve thougt it was a joke, and I might have thought so too, if I
> hadn't known better. But he pratt-fell right into this one,
> by..being Steve. I  didn't see his first post (Dec.26) till Dec.28,
> when I got back on-line, and was checking my mail., too late to stop the
> downhill snowball. Saw other members innocently joining in, what seemed
> to be a joke, and that's why I wrote him On-list, so they all would know
> the truth, before somebody would say something really whacked, and
> Matteo would pick up on it,and take offence, or it would be a situation
> at the Tucson show, with the Nuns.
> Kind of nip it in the bud, type situation? FORGOT about Proud Tom.,
> lurking "somewhere out there between the inner mind and the Outer
> Limits." End of Story? We'll see.
> Best Regards, Marcie
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Marcia Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
> 
> Possible Proud Tom Headline:  NUN WANTS TO SAVE METEORITE FROM BREAKUP!!
> 
> storyline: Sister Mary Meteorite, an avid collector from Georgia, comes to
> the rescue of the Humpty Dumpty puzzle stone by threatening famous Nevada
> meteorite dealer Steve Arnold(not-IMB) with eternal damnation if he to didn't
> put back it back together for good. Steve's immediate response was
> typical: "Does anybody want to trade, buy or sell something, anything?".
> 
> Steve's Next day Rebuttal Comment to the List:
> 
> "Leave me alone Sister Mary, remember I said I was in it for the
> Science...and I know the Big Guy will understand, my wanting to share and
> all. And don't call me Bart."
> 
> What will happen next???
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Feverish John
> 
> PS Tom, please respond to my request to be on the staff. I've got better
> material I'm sure.
> 
> 
> 
>> This all sounds like fabulous fodder for PROUD TOM.
>> I can hardly wait..
>> Michael
>> 
>> on 12/28/03 9:50 AM, Marcia Swanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Steve,
>>> Firstly, hope you had a great Christmas. Secondly, I was really
>>> dissapointed, that having left town for Christmas, I missed probably, a
>>> chance I may not get again, that being, your trip to Kenosha ( my home
>>> town), on the 27th. I really wanted to meet you, and hear your stories
>>> about Park Forest, ect. !! Hope you come to visit your friend here
>>> again.,  Were you able to set anything up with anyone else from around
>>> here? I was really dissapointed at not being able to have been there.
>>> Thirdly, the Nun Story, was for real. Matteo is indirectly involved, in
>>> that, she is a member of his new Real Meteorite List, website, that he
>>> started.
>>> I haven't posted to this site yet, but I do get it, over the web. His 9
>>> or 10, and growing, new members,  include her, and yes, she ( at least
> 
>>> from what I've read) is a legitimate Nun. FOR REAL, Steve! There are
>>> also others on his list, that  include people who are also meteorite
>>> buyers/collectors, in this country, who  may, but probably haven't ,
>>> either accessed our site, or have, heard of it, and DO plan on coming to
>>> Tucson. It is open to all Meteorite entusiasts, right? She is also a
>>> legimate meteorite collector. More than that, I can't add, because, as I
>>> said, I haven't posted to the List, or talked to any of them privately.
>>> Thought I'd let you know. Hope your New Year, brings you another
>>> Great Fall, like you mentioned. Have a good one. Best Regards, Marcie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Friday, December 26, 2003 11:39 AM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] the nuns want to go to tucson with me
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon list.I got a very unusal email about 2 weeks ago from a NUN
> 
>>> order from georgia.I guess they had been monitering the meteorite list and
>>> thought it would be cool to go to tucson next year.But what is so weird is
>>> that want to know if they can go with me.Well as you all know I have round
>>> trip airfair th

Re: [meteorite-list] new and up to date website

2003-12-29 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hi Mike, Steve and List, Steve your logo is as impressive as your
collection! : )  My collection is up two 26 meteorites now! I am expecting
four more from Mike Farmer soon and then my collection should be almost
complete! (I still want a SA over 500g's someday) Steve, you have done a
nice job on your site!
 Hope you all have a great year!
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier <><


- Original Message -
From: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new and up to date website


> Looks Great Steve!
> But don't ya think your IMCS logo is a bit small?
> Best wishes, Michael
>
>
> on 12/28/03 2:27 PM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all.It is finally over.I have updated my website with new photo's
> > and lay outs.With shooting new pics and getting it rightfully formated
the
> > way I wanted it,it took 10 hours to do.I also shrunk the pics down so
> > people eith dial up's could see them better.Let me know what you think.I
> > am glad it is done.Next to finally get my display case built.
> >
> > steve arnold, chicago
> >
> > =
> > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > Illinois Meteorites
> > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __
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> > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
> >
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> --
> When Jesus said "Love your enemies" I think he probably
> meant don't kill them.
>Anonymous
> --
> AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc.
> http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm
> --
> Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!:
> http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
> --
> http://www.costofwar.com/
> --
> SUPPORT OUR TROUPS:
> http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
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> -  Earth at night from satellite:
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
> - Interactive Lady Liberty:
> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
> - Earth - variety of choices:
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
> --
> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
>
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
> eorCraterRimL.html
> --
> Cool Calendar & Clock:
>   http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] new and up to date website

2003-12-29 Thread Michael L Blood
Looks Great Steve! 
But don't ya think your IMCS logo is a bit small?
Best wishes, Michael


on 12/28/03 2:27 PM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> Hello all.It is finally over.I have updated my website with new photo's
> and lay outs.With shooting new pics and getting it rightfully formated the
> way I wanted it,it took 10 hours to do.I also shrunk the pics down so
> people eith dial up's could see them better.Let me know what you think.I
> am glad it is done.Next to finally get my display case built.
> 
> steve arnold, chicago
> 
> =
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
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> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
> 
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--
AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc.
http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm
--
Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!:
http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
--
SUPPORT OUR TROUPS:
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
--
Worth Seeing:
-  Earth at night from satellite:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
- Interactive Lady Liberty:
http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
- Earth - variety of choices:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
--
Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
eorCraterRimL.html
--
Cool Calendar & Clock:
  http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
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[meteorite-list] a poem, woe is me

2003-12-29 Thread Michael L Blood
That ain't no poem - it's plain ol' RAP.
Woe is me, RAP from Steve Arnold of Chicago. And I thought
the recent imported crapolla  couldn't be outdone.
Only kidding, Steve, but PLEASE, no more! Yer KILLIN' me!
Best wishes, Michael



on 12/28/03 12:57 PM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> I got another email from proud tom,couldn't delete it, so it busted my cd
> rom.Got another email from the order of nuns,but got scolded for being
> attila the hun.Got another email from matteo, but please say it ain't
> so.The crying and the whining go on,but my attitude stays straight as
> warren zevon.Hell, this has been a weird year,but I only laffed and did
> not shed a tear.Keep all the proud tom,orders of nuns,and the matteo stuff
> keep coming,and when I get to tucson I'll say I am from wyoming.But we all
> know that would be a lie,because I'm steve from chicago,tall and sly.On a
> final note, last year I was the meteorite goat,but this year someone else
> is the real show boat.Meteorites are fun, in the rain and the sun,but know
> one can keep me down while I can continue to buy them by the ton!
> 
> steve arnold, chicago!
> 
> =
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> 
> 
> 
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http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
--
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http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
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-  Earth at night from satellite:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
- Interactive Lady Liberty:
http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
- Earth - variety of choices:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
--
Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
eorCraterRimL.html
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[meteorite-list] Jamie Platt contact

2003-12-29 Thread Michel Franco
Dear List

I am triing to send an email to Jamie ( Platt2oo on Ebay).
my  emails to him are rejected by the net !
Does anyone has anothe email for him ?

best regards
and happy new year.

Michel FRANCO 
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[meteorite-list] Scientists Find Obstacle at Heart of Beagle Landing Zone

2003-12-29 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/marsexpress/031229crater.html

Scientists find obstacle at heart of Beagle landing zone
BY JUSTIN RAY
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
December 29, 2003

The first clear view of the specific area where the British Beagle 2 lander should
have touched down Christmas Day has revealed a one-kilometer crater dead
center in the target landing zone, but officials are quick to say the discovery
doesn't dash their optimism of finding the missing craft. 

"This would be an incredibly unlucky situation," Colin Pillinger, lead scientist
for the Beagle 2 project, said this morning. 

To date, all attempts using the American Mars Odyssey orbiter and radio
telescopes in the U.K. and California have failed to detect a peep from Beagle. 

NASA's Mars Global Surveyor orbiter snapped the landing site image 20
minutes after Beagle's scheduled 0254 GMT arrival December 25. The view
isn't sharp enough to show the two-meter wide spacecraft. However, the
image did uncover a crater not unlike the famous meteor impact crater in the
southwest United States. 

"Meteor Crater out in Arizona is a 1.2-kilometer crater...several hundred
meters deep. This crater is comparable in size," Pillinger said. 

Although Beagle scientists had examined numerous photographs of the broad
Isidis Planitia region near the Martian equator while selecting that area to send
the lander, the new Global Surveyor image is the first good view of the
ellipse-shaped zone where Beagle was expected to land. 

"When we were choosing this site in the first place, we avoided the obvious
craters that we could see at relatively low-resolution. You cannot avoid every
crater on Mars, you'd never go there," Pillinger said. 

"We'd chosen the area that we were landing because we believed it was the
right sort of area to risk a landing -- no slopes, low altitude, rock abundance
less than 15 percent. It was repeatedly said 'enough to keep the geologists
happy but not so many (rocks) that it frightens the engineers to death.'" 

Global Surveyor's camera is operated by Malin Space Science Systems. 

"Something which came out of Mike Malin taking pictures of the actual area in
which we believe we were targeted to land is right at the center, right at the
center of the ellipse that we were aiming at, is a one-kilometer-across crater,"
Pillinger said. 

"This is the first picture that he has actually taken in detail anywhere near
where we were supposed to be. Of course, he wasn't able to do that
until we had the absolute ellipse that we were able to compute after Mars
Express had set Beagle on its way." 

"When we started to plan the mission, the estimate of the landing ellipse was
480 by 300 (kilometers), which is a very large area.  As Mars Express has
flown out to Mars, navigation has gotten better and better," mission manager Mark
Sims said. 

Following Beagle's deployment from the Mars Express orbiter on December 19, mission
officials were able to narrow the landing zone to an ellipse-shaped swath
70 kilometers long and 10 kilometers wide. 

"There is absolutely no way you could target to avoid a one-kilometer crater.
The target got smaller the better we knew the trajectory of Mars Express. The
best, the absolute best that could be done, was we were targeting 70 by 10
kilometers. There are an awful lot of one-kilometer craters that you can put into
an ellipse that size," Pillinger said. 

Despite this new revelation, officials say the chances of Beagle reaching the
crater are slim. 

"We must stress this a low probability, it is only one of a number of
possibilities," Sims said of why Beagle has yet to phone home. 

"We would have to be incredibly accurate and also incredibly unlucky that we
went down this crater, which would not be good news -- one would not want
to go into a crater, one would not want bounce on the edge and bounce into it,"
Pillinger added. 

"For obvious reasons, there is going to impact debris around it, which
means more rocks than the 15 percent, and if we get to the bottom of the
crater we actually reduce our attempts to be able to signal out of it. It 
isn't any good trying to signal off to one side if you've got the
rim of crater blocking out half of the picture." 

The highly ambitious Beagle lander used parachutes to slow its
descent and then three balloon-like airbags around the craft to cushion
multiple bounces on the surface before coming to
rest. Designers said the landing system needed to avoid bouncing on slopes
and rocky terrain. Also, landing in a crater could cause shadows on the craft's
power-generating solar panels that would create more trouble. 

The Martian landscape is covered by impact craters. Such places have their
certain risks to robotic spacecraft but also rewards for scientists. 

"There are two ways of looking at craters -- you don't want to land right by
them but you want to land near enough to them so you can take advantage. The
impact excavates rocks and gives you a nice, diverse suite of rocks that you 

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