Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[MexicoDoug]

Adam and the anonymous  commentator:   Actually, it is a very good scientific 
question.   The person who asked was obviously thinking about sedimentary 
layers in the  mountains or their favorite geology text, or maybe the discovery 
 
channel.

I'd rephrase the answer to be:
Shale in geology is the  fragmentary-type sedimentary layer that splits in a 
planar manner usually has  high silicate content from the clays it formed 
originally from (with the help of  sea creatures).  Clays, very frequently 
absorb 
water in sheet like  macromolecules with high silicates so you can see where 
the planar shale  splitting derives from...You can have a sedimentary shale 
high in Calcium  (calcium carbonate) from skeletons and shells typically in 
ancient water sites.  Coals are also shales (remember the "strip" miners - an 
illusion to this planar  like splitting), when the same types of materials get 
carbonaceous.

In  the case of the iron meteorite, or for that matter, an old buried Colt 45 
or  horseshoe, the iron rusts in a manner that is layered, and splits off in 
a  planar mannerVoila - it can also be called shale for this planar 
splitting  characteristic.  Just like an onion rind, not to be confused with 
the 
onion  rind model of asteroids!

Saludos, Doug
(Hoping to bring my iron pick  to a far far away eucrite shale sometime and 
look for nice "diogenite  crystals"!)



In a message dated 1/3/2006 10:58:39 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Somebody asked the  following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I  am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale  just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't  shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set  straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes  weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence  as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale  and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind  Regards,

Adam



- Original Message - 
From: "Adam  Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006  6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


>  Dear List,
>
> I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite.  It was found within 2
> kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower  elevation prone to
moisture.
> Even though my piece has been converted  to mainly shale with only a few
> specks of elemental iron showing, Dr.  Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
> the two and there are not too  many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
> centimeter bandwidth running  around. Here are some links if you want to
> check it out. I have it in my  safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
> after a piece was  submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
> grams or  so.
>
> Here are the links:
>  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
>  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
>  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg
>
>
> Take  Care,
>
> Adam
>
>
> - Original Message -  
> From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03,  2006 3:56 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman  meteorite
>
>
> > Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the  old woman meteorite has ever
> > been offered up to collecters?
>  >
> >
>  >steve arnold, chicago
> >
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[meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

[CalSouth1]

Dear List,

I could be wrong, and invite  opposing views, yet, a silicon result from an 
Iron body would be stretching the  subject.

Because of the fight between the discoverer's and the U.S.  Government, over 
the proprietorship the only owner now is the U. S. Government  and it will not 
be parceling out pieces for salenor will any silicon based  minerals be 
accepted as part of the main mass.

Just my humble and  somewhat ignorant opinion.

John Harper - Barstow, CA.  

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

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For after re-sale on ebay?

Matteo

--- "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 

> Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman
> meteorite has ever
> been offered up to collecters?
> 
> 
>   steve
> arnold, chicago
> 
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Happy New Year Everyone !!

The server for The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. (www.meteorite.com) is being 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone! & FILMS

[Walter Branch]

Hi Jeff and List,

Jeff, thanks very much for making these movies available for list (and non 
list) members.  Your video archives and Mark's text archives complement each 
other very nicely.


I witnessed my first fireball a few days ago, on 12/22/05.  I left work 
early that day because I was sick.  I was driving home about 4:00 p.m. It 
was very sunny with only a few clouds.  I happend to be approaching a bridge 
over a river and about a mile of marshland and I saw it traveling from 
roughly east to west, at a very steep angle.  It was breaking up and 
disentegrating and looked a lot like the peekskill videos on Jeff's site. 
This was in broad daylight!  It was amazing.  After years of night-time 
astronomical observations, during which I have seen many sporadic 
meteorites, this was amazing.  The illusion of closeness was very real.  It 
seemed as though I could have driven over the bridge and into the marsh 
(with subsequent explanations to my wife) and there a meteorite would be - 
right in the middle of the marsh!


I will never forget it.  I hope to see one again.

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[dfreeman]

Dear Adam, List;
I have repeatedly found lots of cretaceous shale balls that have 
oxidized so much that a good magnet does nothing to them.  Even the 
metal detector doesn't recognize them.but, they are in odd 
locations, and seem to have been replaced by manganese, or manganese 
staining. Tim Heinz' site on meteorwrongs has a picture or two.  I still 
remain puzzled but have been too cheap to send them off for an irridium 
test.

Best,
Dave Freeman

Adam Hupe wrote:


Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


 


Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
   


moisture.
 


Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
   


match
 


the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
   


weight
 


after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


   


Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[Adam Hupe]

Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


> Dear List,
>
> I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
> kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
moisture.
> Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
> specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
> the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
> centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
> check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
> after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
> grams or so.
>
> Here are the links:
> http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
> http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
> http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg
>
>
> Take Care,
>
> Adam
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:56 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite
>
>
> > Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
> > been offered up to collecters?
> >
> >
> >   steve arnold, chicago
> >
> > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> >
> >
> > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
> >
> >
> > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> >
> >
> >
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Fw: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.

[Dave Carothers]

Mike,

On the off chance that you inadvertantly corrupted the Outlook .pst file,
You can also try this:  Run the Inbox Repair Tool, SCANPST.exe, to recover
the file. On Win2K and WinNT systems, the executable is located in
C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Mapi\1033\NT. You can also find it on
the Office 2000 CD-ROM in Drive:\Pfiles\Common\System\Mapi\1033\NT. In
WinXP, the file is located in C:\Program Files\Common
Files\System\Mapi\1033. For additional information on the Inbox Repair Tool,
see Microsoft Knowledge Base article

Cheers,

Dave

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> Subject: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.
>
>
> > Something just happend to my computer, so I restarted it, and when my
> > Outlook came back up, ALL inbox emails were just lost! Anyone have any
> > ideas? This is a disaster for me.
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Fw: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.

[Dave Carothers]

Mike,

This is for recovering email that has been accidently dragged and dropped
into the top level folder where it is lost from view. The top level folder
is called in:
- Outlook 97 - 'Mailbox (your, name)' folder.
- Outlook 2000 - 'Outlook Today - [Mailbox - (your, name)]' folder.
- Outlook XP 2002 - 'Outlook Today - [Mailbox - (your, name)]' folder.

If you think you might of lost email this way, you can recover it by doing
the following:

Outlook 97

Its easy. From the main Outlook screen:
1. ensure that 'folder list' is showing: click 'View' menu then 'Folder
list' to switch it on or off.
2. click on the 'Mailbox - (your.name)' folder - see any lost mail.
3. drag it back into your 'Inbox' folder.

Outlook 2000

Its relatively easy:
1. ensure that 'folder list' is showing: click 'View' menu then 'Folder
list' to switch it on or off.
2. click on the 'Outlook Today - [Mailbox (your.name)]' folder.
3. click on the 'View' menu then the 'Show Folder Home Page' option - see
missing files (if any).
4. drag it back into your 'Inbox' folder.


Outlook XP 2002

It can be done in the web version of Outlook:
1. start Internet Explorer or other web browser.
2. into the address line type:
exchange.lancs.ac.uk/exchange
3. when asked for your user name type: lancs\(your Windows username)
then below enter your usual password.
4. click OK - see the 'Outlook Web Access' client.
5. click on 'Surname, name' folder at the top left - see your missing files.
6. drag it back into your 'Inbox' folder.


Hope this helps,

Dave
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.

[Roman Jirasek]

Hi Mike

This exact thing happened to me 3 new years eves ago.
The outlook files end in (.dbx) and when I searched my sytem
after it happened they were all gone. Either a Microsoft issue,
or a virus I have never heard of yet.

Good luck man.

Roman


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> Something just happend to my computer, so I restarted it, and when my 
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to moisture.
Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically match
the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the weight
after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


> Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
> been offered up to collecters?
>
>
>   steve arnold, chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
>
>
> Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
>
>
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
>
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[meteorite-list] AD: Holbrook 774 grams on eBay

[Jason Phillips]

Hello List,
I have a few collection meteorites getting ready to end on Ebay in a few 
hours, including a 774 gram Holbrook with Monnig #'s.

http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=jnbran

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[Jim Strope]

Steve:

Offers can be sent to:

Desert Discovery Center 
831 Main Street

Barstow, CA  92311

http://209.238.151.128/images/ebay/oldwomanmeteorite.jpg

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite



Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

[Gerald Flaherty]

Oh yea Mike, this was all the news on the list a few weeks ago with a link. 
I've seen it on the tube since then several times!!! Truly COOL! I would 
have thought it was reaL A FEW YEARS AGO!! DA. HUH?

Jerry Flaherty
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Larry and list,

About one week ago I saw an ad for a Toyota truck.  The truck was hit by a 
meteorite resulting in a huge explosion.  Cool angle shot of the meteorite 
streaming in.  After the dust settled the truck reappeared with lots of 
yahoos.


Anyone else seen this one?

Cheers,

MIke Tettenborn
owen Sound
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Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
recorded,

it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a 
news

reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
of

the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash

bag to throw away.

I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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1541 East University   If you teach a man to fish,
University of Arizonayou feed him for a 
lifetime."
Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese 
Proverb

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[Michael Farmer]

Um, no. It is Government property.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite



Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone! & FILMS

[Jeff Kuyken]

Bernd wrote:

"Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite."

Reminds me of the Magadan, Russia meteor in July, 2000. There's a video of
it about halfway down my films page.

www.meteorites.com.au/films/

If anyone wants the meteor/truck commercial it is also availale here:

http://www.meteorites.com.au/films/desertmeteor.wmv.

Cheers,

Jeff


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone!


A "stoked" Mike Farmer wrote:

"Well, after 9 years of dealing and collecting meteorites, I have finally
succeeded
in getting a complete Pasamonte stone! I recently bought a stone from a
collector,
with British Museum label, 39 grams, Nininger #197V British Museum #
1959-756."

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/pasamonte.htm

heck it out and tell me what you think.

Gee, that's  *g r e a t* ... like looking at the Holy Grail of meteorites!

" I am stoked about adding this rare little puppy to my "new" collection. "

One can really see "live" and "on-line" how excited Michael F. must have
been because in his write-up you can read that this stone "have" serious
provenance. Well, who wouldn't be overcome with such joy if we were him!

Pasamonte is a polymict, very friable, brecciated, noncumulate eucrite
and resembles my little Stannern piece that I purchased from Martin
Horejsi some time ago: black, glossy, frothy fusion crust, a shining white
interior, fragile and *beautiful*. Only difference: Stannern is monomict.

Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite.

Mike, sincere congrats on the acquisition of this "drool-worthy" beauty!

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!]

Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


  steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
 

Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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[meteorite-list] Biz bag meteorites

[joseph_town]

Advertising people are reading the list. A new trend maybe. It would be a good 
thing if only they could get the most simple things about meteorites right. 
Lets see, it's just humor, not misleading, everybody but me knows the facts. 
Put it in the biz bag.

Bill


 -- Original message --
From: "tett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> List,
> 
> Here is a link to the Toyota commercial.
> 
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34669/meteor/
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> tett
> Owen Sound, Ontario
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Lebofsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial
> 
> 
> > Darren:
> >
> > I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
> > recorded,
> > it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!
> >
> > Quoting Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
> >> reporter warning about a
> >> coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
> >> captured by a giant trash
> >> bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
> >> woman with a trash bag
> >> seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
> >> of
> >> the windsheild of her
> >> car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
> >> trash
> >> bag to throw away.
> >>
> >> I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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> > Co-editor, Meteorite  "If you give a man a fish,
> > Lunar and Planetary Laboratory   you feed him for a day.
> > 1541 East University   If you teach a man to fish,
> > University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime."
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[meteorite-list] Ad - lots of eBay auctions closing

[star-bits]

I have a bunch of eBay auctions closing over the next few hours.   Check them 
out at 

 

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

[tett]

List,

Here is a link to the Toyota commercial.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34669/meteor/

Cheers,

tett
Owen Sound, Ontario


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From: "Larry Lebofsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial



Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
recorded,

it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
of

the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash

bag to throw away.

I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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Lunar and Planetary Laboratory   you feed him for a day.
1541 East University   If you teach a man to fish,
University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime."
Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

[tett]

Larry and list,

About one week ago I saw an ad for a Toyota truck.  The truck was hit by a 
meteorite resulting in a huge explosion.  Cool angle shot of the meteorite 
streaming in.  After the dust settled the truck reappeared with lots of 
yahoos.


Anyone else seen this one?

Cheers,

MIke Tettenborn
owen Sound
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Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
recorded,

it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
of

the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash

bag to throw away.

I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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Co-editor, Meteorite  "If you give a man a fish,
Lunar and Planetary Laboratory   you feed him for a day.
1541 East University   If you teach a man to fish,
University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime."
Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

[Gerald Flaherty]

GET HER NAME
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From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial


I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news 
reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being 
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a 
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out of 
the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash bag to throw away.


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[meteorite-list] Stardust Nears End of Epic Journey; Researchers Await Its Treasure

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=21550

Office of News and Information
University of Washington, Seattle, Washington

CONTACT:
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Jan. 3, 2006

Stardust nears end of epic journey; researchers await its treasure

Donald Brownlee's heart skipped a beat six years ago when the launch of 
the Stardust spacecraft didn't happen as planned. The University of 
Washington astronomy professor has experienced many other tense times 
since the historic mission blasted off a day late, and its return to Earth 
on Jan. 15 will be just one more white-knuckle moment.

Just before 3 a.m. MST [1000 UTC], the spacecraft will jettison its return 
capsule, which will plunge into Earth's atmosphere at nearly 29,000 miles 
per hour, the greatest return speed ever recorded. A few moments later, 
after the capsule slows to just faster than the speed of sound, a 
parachute will apply the brakes and Stardust will settle to the ground on 
the Air Force's Utah Testing and Training Range southwest of Salt Lake 
City.

"There's a lot at stake. You just hope everything works, and I am 
confident it will work," said Brownlee, the mission's principal 
investigator, or lead scientist.

The return capsule contains tiny bits of dust captured two years ago as it 
spewed from a comet called Wild 2. The tennis-racquet-shaped collector 
used a remarkably light and porous material called aerogel to capture the 
particles, each much smaller than a grain of sand and traveling six times 
the speed of a bullet fired from a rifle. Earlier, the reverse side of the 
collector snared interstellar dust grains flowing into the solar system 
from other stars in our galaxy. In all, the capsule contains tens of 
thousands of comet grains and about 100 bits of interstellar dust.

"It's really quite an epic thing. I think it tends to get overlooked 
because it's just a little mission, and there aren't any people on board," 
Brownlee said. "But the really big part of the research is just getting 
ready to start, when the material goes to the laboratory. The train is 
headed for the station and we're all waiting for it."

Stardust is part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's 
series of Discovery missions and is managed by the Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. Besides the UW, other collaborators are 
Lockheed Martin Space Systems; The Boeing Co.; Germany's Max-Planck 
Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics; NASA's Ames Research Center; and 
the University of Chicago.

After the capsule touches down in the Utah desert, a canister bearing the 
aerogel collector grid will be removed and taken to the Johnson Space 
Center in Houston, where the samples will be cataloged and sent to 
scientists around the world. Brownlee expects them to provide key 
information on the formation of the solar system 4.6 billion years ago and 
possibly to shed light on the origins of life on Earth. Scientists are 
likely to study Stardust's treasure for decades to come.

Stardust was launched on Feb. 7, 1999, and set off on three giant loops 
around the sun. It began collecting interstellar dust in 2000 and met Wild 
2 (pronounced Vilt 2) on Jan. 2, 2004, when the spacecraft weathered a 
hailstorm of comet particles and snapped exceptional close-up photographs 
of the comet's surface. During its 2.88 billion-mile voyage Stardust made 
one pass by Earth to get a speed boost from the planet's gravity, and 
later staged a dress-rehearsal for the comet encounter when it maneuvered 
very close to Asteroid 5535 Annefrank.

The tensest moment other than the comet encounter came in November 2000, 
while the spacecraft was cruising along some 130 million miles from the 
sun. A huge solar flare, 100,000 times more energetic than usual, engulfed 
Stardust and its special digital cameras that help the spacecraft know 
where it is by viewing the stars and making comparisons with a 
comprehensive star chart stored in the onboard computer. The high-energy 
solar flare electrified pixels in the cameras, producing dots that the 
computer interpreted as stars. Suddenly the spacecraft did not know where 
it was and, in a preprogrammed act of self-preservation, it turned its 
solar panels toward the sun, losing communication with Earth.

Ground controllers finally found a faint signal and were able to contact 
Stardust and correct the problem. A little more than three years later the 
spacecraft finally met the target that scientists had been aiming for 
since 1974, when a close encounter with Jupiter altered Wild 2's orbit and 
brought it to the inner solar system. That made the mission feasible.

Scientists have collected thousands of meteorites and cosmic dust 
particles on Earth, Brownlee noted, but with few exceptions the origin of 
those materials is unknown. Now there will be samples of material from 
another known body in space, and those grains can be compared with all the 
previously collected meteorites and bits of dust to see if t

[meteorite-list] Field Museum of Natural History Meteorite Collection

[Michael Fowler]

Hi List,

I have an urge to visit the Field Museum meteorite collection.  This  
happens to me periodically, and since I live in the Chicago area,  
it's no big deal.


However, it would be much more fun to do it with a kindred spirit.   
I'm extending an invitation to any list members from near or far  
wanting to visit the museum to link up.


My own schedule is very flexible this time of year.  Any one  
interested, let me know, on or off list.


Thanks,

Mike Fowler
Chicago
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773-991-0590
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RE: [meteorite-list] Paint Could Alter Asteroids Course

[Kevin Forbes]

The mind half boggles, how about the effect of volatiles evaporating from 
the paint? e.g. land a lump of material that begins to vapourise when 
illuminated by the Sun. Paint and thinners, the vapour from the material 
will at first possibly provide more thrust than the variation between light 
dark bits...
I also am thinking, if the material was of a high gloss, it would work 
better than , say, a powdery coating, such as talcum powder.

Kevin, VK3UKF.




Paint could alter asteroids course
The Scotsman (United Kingdom)
December 31, 2005

Scientists have spoken of their plans for a project to stop asteroids
hitting the earth.

Researchers from Glasgow University are looking into the possibility of
spraying lumps of rock and ice with paint to knock them off course.

Spraying the asteroids using a robot droid in space would heat or cool
the surface using the sun's rays, hopefully diverting them from hitting
the planet.

It is thought this method would be much more effective than that
fictionally used by film star Bruce Willis in the blockbuster
Armageddon, where he and a team drilled a nuclear bomb into the core of
a massive rock.

Dr Gianmarco Radice, who is leading the research, told the Daily Record
newspaper: "With an asteroid you are faced with the danger posed by one
piece of rock.

"Blow it to pieces and you could be faced with the even bigger problem
of many more smaller pieces of rock hurtling towards the earth.

"Ours would be an unmanned mission. There would be no need for Bruce
Willis."

The £300,000 three-year study into asteroids at the university is being
backed by the Government's Engineering and Physical Sciences Research
Council.

The main threat is currently a 390-metre wide asteroid called Apophis,
which Nasa believes could hit earth on April 13, 2036.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone!

[bernd . pauli]

A "stoked" Mike Farmer wrote:

"Well, after 9 years of dealing and collecting meteorites, I have finally 
succeeded
in getting a complete Pasamonte stone! I recently bought a stone from a 
collector,
with British Museum label, 39 grams, Nininger #197V British Museum # 1959-756."

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/pasamonte.htm

Check it out and tell me what you think.

Gee, that's  *g r e a t* ... like looking at the Holy Grail of meteorites!

" I am stoked about adding this rare little puppy to my "new" collection. "

One can really see "live" and "on-line" how excited Michael F. must have
been because in his write-up you can read that this stone "have" serious
provenance. Well, who wouldn't be overcome with such joy if we were him!

Pasamonte is a polymict, very friable, brecciated, noncumulate eucrite
and resembles my little Stannern piece that I purchased from Martin
Horejsi some time ago: black, glossy, frothy fusion crust, a shining white
interior, fragile and *beautiful*. Only difference: Stannern is monomict.

Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite.

Mike, sincere congrats on the acquisition of this "drool-worthy" beauty!

Bernd

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RE: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Scale off Stonys

[Kevin Forbes]

Hi Pete and list, interesting read this one, just an untried thought after 
years of cleaning ancient coins now and then, the caliche is a carbonate, I 
am assuming, it should dissolve rapidly in HCl or Hydrochloric acid, dilute 
to slow it. Also, I had success on certain coins removing bad stuff by 
heating and quenching in water, SSS and it flaked off.

Cheers, Kevin.


From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Scale off Stonys
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:45:34 -0500
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Hello, List,

...so quiet in here...everyone still hung-over, eh?

A while ago I posted a request for any suggestions to make getting scale 
off of stone meteorites any easier, without a response.


I tried a few things myself and I'll pass on the results for anyone who is 
interested:


De-scalers like CLR or Limeaway are messy, smelly and potentially 
dangerous, even in a diluted form down to 25% with distilled water - and it 
changed the appearance of the surface somewhat.


A furnace humidifier "scale-be-gone" solution was the same disappointment.


Hydrogen Peroxide, however, was a definite help, and at the household 3%, 
it's relatively safe.


I submerged the intended stone in the peroxide for about an hour, and while 
keeping it wet I started cleaning.
It is still a meticulous task - I still needed to use the dental picks, but 
the scale comes off a lot easier and in bigger chips, and doesn't appear to 
harm the meteorite.


I soak the stones in alcohol when I'm done to displace the water.

I'll try 10% later, and if there's an marked advange I'll post the 
results...unless someone else tries it first...


I suggest you wear disposable gloves, though, as the stuff will bleach your 
fingertips.


Any input or further suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Pete


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

[Larry Lebofsky]

Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this recorded, 
it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
> reporter warning about a
> coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
> captured by a giant trash
> bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
> woman with a trash bag
> seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out of
> the windsheild of her
> car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a trash
> bag to throw away.
> 
> I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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