Re: [uf-discuss] Species microformat - test page and Operator

2007-05-09 Thread Tane Piper

A possible interesting development that could help the cause of this
much-debated uf:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-05/eol-wls050507.php

World's leading scientists announce creation of 'Encyclopedia of Life'
Biodiversity, science communities unite behind epic effort to promote
biodiversity, document all 1.8 million named species on planet.

More can be found out about it here:

http://www.eol.org/home.html

Tane

On 2/28/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The new beta of Operator:

http://www.kaply.com/weblog/2007/02/16/operator-07a-is-
available/

The Firefox extension for parsing microformats detects the species
microformat which is currently under development,

A test page has been created:

http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/records/lists-2004uf.htm

to which I'll be adding further examples over the next week or two.

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Andy Mabbett
 http://www.pigsonthewing.org.uk/uFsig/

Welcome to the world's longest week!
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Re: [uf-discuss] Yahoo introduces no-search microformat like function

2007-05-09 Thread David Mead

My first post to this list
(http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-January/008164.html)
was actually asking this very question about using microformats to
show which areas of a web page spiders should concentrate on.

Ryan sent me the link to the robots-exclusion page but with the recent
crunch at work I haven't gone back to it.

I'm not with Yahoo or any other search engine but I think it's
something that I would like to look at further and with Yahoo's news
it would seem like sense to dig into this a little more.

Dave

On 5/8/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On May 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Ben Ward wrote:

 On 4 May 2007, at 22:19, Ted Drake wrote:

 What's the traction for something like this and no-follow to get
 integrated into the microformat platform?

 Well, robots-nocontent is not part of the the robots-exclusion
 draft, which in itself has not been updated for over 18 months.

 I contacted Priyank yesterday and he confirmed that Search have not
 implemented any of the robots-exclusion draft itself, nor have they
 implemented an opposite 'robots-content' class.

 I will email him again to see if we can get a concise specification
 of the indexing behaviour for robots-nocontent page sections so
 that it can at least be documented. If Peter Janes is still active
 here or if anyone else has an interest in picking up the robots-
 exclusion spec then it will be up to them and their work within the
 process to determine if the implementation can be documented as
 part of it.

 It seems like as good a time to ask; does anyone in the community
 still have an active interest in Robots-Exclusion? Are there any
 implementations?

 (Since I know disclosure is appreciated: If it's not already clear
 from the communications documented in this message, I recently
 started working for Yahoo! Europe. With relevance to this issue
 though, I am not in any way involved in Yahoo! Search. In a more
 general sense, at this time, none of my contributions to this list
 are representative of Yahoo! and so on and so forth yada yada)

AFAIK, there has been 0 interest in robots-exclusion since before we
even launched mf.org. However, if yahoo search is interested in
implementing this, I'd encourage anyone with influence there to point
them at our wiki and encourage them to go through the process.

-ryan
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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread Mike Kaply

On 5/8/07, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think this was the page mentioned a while back

http://spaces.live.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboardexample.html

btw ...

I have Firebug (useful DOM-Inspector-like tool) installed in Firefox and on
that page noticed it is showing some parsing errors generated by Operator
(such as No fn specified) as javascript errors


Those to blank microformats for pasting are technically invalid.

Personally I think the live clipboard is a red herring.

What we need to investigate is something like operator that works in
page for microformats. I have thought about this, but it's not high on
my list.

Mike
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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread John Beales

What we need to investigate is something like operator that works in
page for microformats. I have thought about this, but it's not high on
my list.

Mike


I'm going to try to see about making a favelet for IE that uses Brian
Suda's XSL, or Technorati's implementation or something, (when I
actually get going I'll E-mail those of you responsible asking
permission - don't worry).  It's a bit of a stop-gap but hopefully it
can start letting IE users at least see the value of an hCard.

John
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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread Brian Suda

On 5/9/07, John Beales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What we need to investigate is something like operator that works in
 page for microformats. I have thought about this, but it's not high on
 my list.

 Mike

I'm going to try to see about making a favelet for IE that uses Brian
Suda's XSL, or Technorati's implementation or something, (when I
actually get going I'll E-mail those of you responsible asking
permission - don't worry).  It's a bit of a stop-gap but hopefully it
can start letting IE users at least see the value of an hCard.


--- the microformats wiki has a list of existing bookmarklets[1], if
you create any new ones, please be sure to add them to the list.

-brian

[1] - http://microformats.org/wiki/bookmarklets


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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/9/07 10:53 AM, John Beales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What we need to investigate is something like operator that works in
 page for microformats. I have thought about this, but it's not high on
 my list.
 
 Mike
 
 I'm going to try to see about making a favelet for IE that uses Brian
 Suda's XSL, or Technorati's implementation or something, (when I
 actually get going I'll E-mail those of you responsible asking
 permission - don't worry).  It's a bit of a stop-gap but hopefully it
 can start letting IE users at least see the value of an hCard.

See favelets here for the Technorati Contacts and Events Feeds services:

http://technorati.com/contacts/

http://technorati.com/events/

Tantek

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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/9/07 11:17 AM, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/9/07, John Beales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What we need to investigate is something like operator that works in
 page for microformats. I have thought about this, but it's not high on
 my list.
 
 Mike
 
 I'm going to try to see about making a favelet for IE that uses Brian
 Suda's XSL, or Technorati's implementation or something, (when I
 actually get going I'll E-mail those of you responsible asking
 permission - don't worry).  It's a bit of a stop-gap but hopefully it
 can start letting IE users at least see the value of an hCard.
 
 --- the microformats wiki has a list of existing bookmarklets[1], if
 you create any new ones, please be sure to add them to the list.
 
 -brian
 
 [1] - http://microformats.org/wiki/bookmarklets

Thanks Brian.

Aforementioned bookmarklet/favelets added to that page.

In addition I created a page for internet-explorer-extensions to parallel
the one for firefox and linked to it from the implementations page to
hopefully make it easier to discover/find.

http://microformats.org/wiki/internet-explorer-extensions

http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations

Thanks,

Tantek

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Live Clipboard (was Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?)

2007-05-09 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/8/07 6:08 PM, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this was the page mentioned a while back
 
 http://spaces.live.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclipsample/clipboa
 rdexample.html

Added to implementations page.

http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations#Live_Clipboard

Thanks,

Tantek

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Re: [uf-discuss] uF Tools for Internet Explorer?

2007-05-09 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/8/07 2:39 PM, John Beales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have Operator  Tails for Firefox, but the majority of users out
 there are still using IE, and if they could use something, even a
 bookmarklet, to export hCards from web pages

Those certainly exist.


 it would make
 evangelizing a whole lot easier.

Understandably!


 Maybe I just missed them in the wiki.  If so a link would be great.  Thanks!

They weren't very easy to find.

I've added this page which now links to them:

 http://microformats.org/wiki/internet-explorer-extensions

If/when you come across additional tools for Internet Explorer, please add
them to that page.

Thanks!

Tantek

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