Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-19 Thread Daniel Walrond
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 07:03:36PM +1000, Dave Harrison wrote:
 Stuart Henderson wrote:
  On 2006/04/09 17:43, Dave Harrison wrote:
  I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a
  PPPoA link (yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_
  PPPoE) under OpenBSD
  
  in-tree: ueagle(4) otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch
  drivers
 
 Is it not possible to configure in a way similar to a ppp  PPPoE
 setup ??
 
 I have a modem that I'm connecting to via ethernet, then it plugs into
 the phone line.
 
 Can I drive PPPoA with the ppp daemon ??

If you're using a ADSL router which you plug your OpenBSD box into via
ethernet I see two ways of connecting. Either get your ADSL modem to do
the PPPoA connection, or make your OpenBSD box do PPPoE and your ADSL
modem to do a bridge connection using ATM. I've posted on the list of
how I get my OpenBSD box to do the PPP connection (last month if you
look though the archives for PPPoA).

I may as well turn last months email into html since it seems to be a
common question and there's little on the subject using Google.


Dan



PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Dave Harrison
Hi all,

I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a PPPoA link
(yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_ PPPoE) under OpenBSD and
drawing a blank.  The FAQ says that it seems to be possible, but the ppp man
page doesn't seem to have any references, and all my googling is drawing a blank
too.

Can anyone point me at the place where some doco on doing this is ?  Is it even
possible ??

Thanks for you help,
Dave



Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Dave Harrison
Stuart Henderson wrote:
 On 2006/04/09 17:43, Dave Harrison wrote:
 I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a PPPoA link
 (yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_ PPPoE) under OpenBSD
 
 in-tree: ueagle(4)
 otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch drivers

Is it not possible to configure in a way similar to a ppp  PPPoE setup ??

I have a modem that I'm connecting to via ethernet, then it plugs into the phone
line.

Can I drive PPPoA with the ppp daemon ??

Dave



Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/09 17:43, Dave Harrison wrote:
 I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a PPPoA link
 (yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_ PPPoE) under OpenBSD

in-tree: ueagle(4)
otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch drivers



Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/09 19:03, Dave Harrison wrote:
  in-tree: ueagle(4)
  otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch drivers
 
 Is it not possible to configure in a way similar to a ppp  PPPoE setup ??

No.

 I have a modem that I'm connecting to via ethernet, then it plugs
 into the phone line.

Those work like routers in 'bridge' mode and are usually used
with PPPoE. Did you already try PPPoE? It is probably the simplest
way to do what you want and typically it *does* work in UK.

 Can I drive PPPoA with the ppp daemon ??

Yes, with ueagle.



Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Shane J Pearson

Hi Dave,

On 2006.04.09, at 7:03 PM, Dave Harrison wrote:

Is it not possible to configure in a way similar to a ppp  PPPoE  
setup ??


I have a modem that I'm connecting to via ethernet, then it plugs  
into the phone

line.


Does your MODEM have a half bridge mode? My DSL MODEM/router employs  
a half bridge mode, but calls it MODEM mode. With that mode, you  
can have the MODEM log in to your ISP and deal with PPPoE or PPPoA  
and then the MODEM just passes the IP traffic to its ethernet port.  
In that mode you can leave the MODEM/routers DHCP server switched on  
and your connected machine will get the IP assigned from your ISP  
through the MODEM.


I used to use PPPoE with my provider in Australia, but tried PPPoA  
using this method and it works great. I wanted to try PPPoA because I  
was having some stability issues with PPPoE, however the problem  
turned out to be the MODEM. I stuck with PPPoA because I can use an  
MTU of 1500. The MODEM deals with the logging in and PPPoA and my  
firewall just sees the IP traffic without any NAT being done in the  
MODEM.


Maybe this a possible solution for you?


Shane



Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:55:49 +0100
Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006/04/09 17:43, Dave Harrison wrote:
  I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a PPPoA
link
  (yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_ PPPoE) under
OpenBSD

 in-tree: ueagle(4)
 otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch drivers
I have a USB Speedtouch modem attached to my router:
ugen0 at uhub0 port 2
ugen0: ALCATEL Speed Touch USB, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2

I have been using PPPoA + OpenBSD for some time now, without problems.

Cheers,
Jasper

--
Humppa is a serious thing!

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