Re: Egress filters dropping traffic

2013-07-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-06-30 22:04 +0530), Glen Kent wrote:

 Under what scenarios do providers install egress ACLs which could say for
 eg.
 
 1. Allow all IP traffic out on an interface foo if its coming from source
 IP x.x.x.x/y
 2. Drop all other IP traffic out on this interface.

Question seems to be 'when do you need to drop packets', I'm sure 10
different people would give 10 different use-cases.

One use-case for this particular ACL is that the interface is used for MGMT
only, so you allow NMS network and drop everything else.

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Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-07-01 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
Le 25/06/2013 11:43, Arturo Servin a écrit :
  And this presentation by Geoff Huston:

Thanks !

Funny thing is, the IPv4 table projection looks accurate for now.

Does it seem plausible to establish a backpressure model over a longer
period now we have some more data about new allocation policies and
general behavior ?

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Re: SixXS Contact

2013-07-01 Thread Jeroen Massar
[several replies in one (hence cc's) to not clutter the list with
non-really-nanog stuff, but it kinda deserves a reply, reply-to set to
where these things should be going in the first place]

[TLDR: contact = i...@sixxs.net, mail queue is long, human time is
limited, if you have lots of users some will feel wronged]

On 2013-06-27 16:17, K. M. Peterson wrote:
 Are there any SixXS admins who read this list?

Several, but it is not the contact point. Note that if you had searched
the NANOG archives, or googled, or read the SixXS website this would
have been clear.

But let me nevertheless answer these comments and then return to normal
live, real work and then in our spare times processing the request
queues and the insane backlog of email.

 I seem to have committed a
 faux pas with respect to requesting an account, and I'm not getting any
 responses to my attempts (to i...@sixxs.net) to clear up the issue.

In that mailbox there are currently 6396 unreplied messages, this is
spread over the last several years though (and some back-dated spam that
passed the filters creeps in there too). We used to have a near real
time statistic at http://www.sixxs.net/misc/operstats/ indicating that,
due to infrastructure changes though this does not show anymore there
though.

Your message is thus among those unreplied ones (I quickly see 3 in the
mail queue).

Unfortunately things that are not automated have to be handled by humans
and time is a rather limited resource (and getting good people who help
along is a very tricky thing as we have found out; hints appreciated).
We would love to have more time for SixXS, but there are unfortunately
only 24 hours in a day and many of that is used for real life.

Just in case: we make it a point to not prefer handling one persons case
over the rest of them. They all get handled in turn. (LIFO style in
typical case, and sometimes we then jump back a lot to resolve a few of
those too, but pretty much at random)

On 2013-06-27 16:47, Anthony Williams wrote:


  Can I piggy back on that inquiry and request a reset of my ISK points
 after committing a faux pas with respect to going negative from down v6
 tunnels and deleting. Now to create a new tunnel I need positive ISK
 points and I'm stilling at -10 with no way to boost my numbers. :(

  Reset Points: AWJ11-SIXXS   Oh Pretty please w/sugar on top.  :)

You deleted the two working tunnels you had, adding a few credits does
not resolve your problem as you have been answered in email.

Resetting your credit would quite well make the credit system useless as
people could then just waste it all, not maintain their connection and
then ask for more, but we have other ways of solving problems like this.


On 2013-06-27 21:43, Måns Nilsson wrote:
 Personally, even though I'm on the same IRC channel as one of the
 admins and could have all support I want

Extremely interesting statement. As I am sure you are not on the IRC
channel that I do actually idle at... and even if you where, SixXS does
not do help on IRC or for specific people, see above and the site.

On 2013-06-28 13:48, Måns Nilsson wrote:

 Apparently I'm not on the same IRC channel as an admin anymore:

 Just let me state that the day after I quit working with SIXXS I got
myself a HE tunnel

I am really wondering which admin you mean, and working is
impossible as it is just all done in free time. Please read the about
page, and you'll realize there are only two people who 'are' SixXS, both
of us have lots of native connectivity and for the left-over locations
have a wide array of SixXS PoPs to choose out of thus no need for
alternates; though in case of throughput/latency being better and the
need would be there that would of course be a better and thus logical
choice.

Also note that anybody who really is with SixXS would write SixXS and
not everything in caps as they know the difference in writing style and
the reason why it is written that way. (The same trick with people
writing TOR which would mean Top Of Rack, not Tor as in Tor Project)


On 2013-06-27 22:00, Andrew D Kirch wrote:[..]

 Yes it's a private service, yes it's run by volunteers, BUT SIXXS is
 publicly putting themselves forward as ambassadors for IPv6.  The main
 target is to create a common portal to help company engineers find their
 way with IPv6 networks deploying IPv6 to their customers
 http://www.sixxs.net/faq/sixxs/?faq=enduser in a rapid and
 controllable fashion. (Sixxs website) and For whom?  For everybody.
 The average joe and jane can use AICCU so that they can use IPv6 very
 quick and easy. (SIXXS website about us).

That is all correct. And I am actually extremely convinced that we have
overreached every single one of the goals that we have set out to
achieve: http://www.sixxs.net/faq/sixxs/?faq=why

 I'm neither Joe nor Jane,
 nor am I Tom, Dick, or Harry, and quite frankly SIXXS has been
 abrasive
 and abusive in my attempt to use their service.

Yes, it is really hard for some people to 

Ciena MPLS-VPWS

2013-07-01 Thread chris burri
Hi all,
 
I need a little help with MPLS-VPWS configuration on ciena 3916.
Could someone knowledgeable in the topic please contact me off-list?

Thank you
Chris

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EC2 issues starting at about 9am Eastern

2013-07-01 Thread alex-lists-nanog
Hello,

Is anyone seeing any EC2 issues? We started seeing them as of about 9:01am
today. The issues are manifesting with different instances sporadically not
being able to connect to each other or connect to hosts ourside EC2.

Thanks,
Alex



Re: www.att.net ipv6 traceroute

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew Petach
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:34 AM, David Hill dh...@mindcry.org wrote:

 Anyone else noticing odd ipv6 traceroutes to www.att.net
 (2001:1890:1c01:2::40)?

 For example, the first traceroute originating in Chicago, and if the
 hostnames are anything to go by:

 Chicago - Dallas - Atlanta - Miama - NYC - Amsterdam -
 Frankfurt - France - D.C. - Atlanta...

 The first 2 traceroutes are on SixXs tunnels and the third is native.

 From 2604:8800::/32 (Chicago, Sixxs)

  2  gw-122.chi-03.us.sixxs.net  25.925 ms  14.816 ms  13.645 ms
  3  uschi03.sixxs.net  18.651 ms  15.544 ms  34.06 ms
  4  2620:0:6b0:a::1  27.401 ms  15.677 ms  14.83 ms
  5  tge6-3.fr3.ord4.ipv6.llnw.net  14.482 ms  18.875 ms  21.112 ms
  6  ve8.fr3.ord.ipv6.llnw.net  28.965 ms  24.031 ms  15.947 ms
  7  tge2-1.fr3.dal.ipv6.llnw.net  39.672 ms  41.431 ms  49.888 ms
  8  tge4-1.fr3.atl1.ipv6.llnw.net  59.908 ms  62.198 ms  72.244 ms
  9  tge2-1.fr3.mia1.ipv6.llnw.net  78.641 ms  75.351 ms  74.425 ms
 10  2600:804:11f::11  91.243 ms  90.002 ms  87.802 ms
 11  2600:802::23  119.804 ms  100.727 ms  100.737 ms
 12  ge-0-3-0.IL1.NYC12.ALTER.NET  147.803 ms  145.406 ms  147.878 ms
 13  ae1.XT2.AMS2.ALTER.NET  148.699 ms ae1.XT1.AMS2.ALTER.NET  146.322 ms
  152.503 ms
 14  GigabitEthernet6-0-0.GW5.AMS6.ALTER.NET  145.967 ms  148.903 ms
  165.926 ms
 15  FastEthernet0-0.6B1.AMS6.ALTER.NET  183.716 ms  156.131 ms  194.141 ms
 16  tu3.6B1.FFT4.ALTER.NET  184.867 ms  184.005 ms  170.47 ms
 17  ffm-s1-rou-1006.DE.eurorings.net  159.565 ms *  173.012 ms
 18  ffm-s1-rou-1102.DE.eurorings.net  200.82 ms  225.979 ms  207.712 ms
 19  kehl-s2-rou-1103.DE.eurorings.net  228.884 ms  208.576 ms  203.722 ms
 20  nntr-s1-rou-1101.FR.eurorings.net  192.901 ms  210.818 ms  210.279 ms
 21  * 2001:680:0:134:222:226:160:1  189.452 ms  171.714 ms
 22  2001:1890:c00:c001::1171:ecca  192.306 ms  164.33 ms  192.835 ms
 23  2001:1890:c00:c001::ee71:ecca  222.488 ms  218.21 ms  194.537 ms
 24  2001:1890:ff::12:122:105:90  214.309 ms  216.21 ms  216.51 ms
 25  wswdc22crs.ipv6.att.net  206.215 ms  220.884 ms  202.472 ms
 26  attga21crs.ipv6.att.net  213.776 ms  220.918 ms  205.205 ms
 27  attga409me3.ipv6.att.net  190.66 ms  228.532 ms  200.606 ms
 28  2001:1890:c00:8802::11cc:6c6d  217.65 ms  222.145 ms  210.213 ms

 From 2a02:2528::/32 (Switzerland, Sixxs)

  2  gw-91.gva-01.ch.sixxs.net  28.932 ms  28.415 ms  29.091 ms
  3  2a02:2528:ff:1::4  28.082 ms  28.873 ms  41.525 ms
  4  ge0-1.gv1.ip-max.sixxs.net  29.546 ms  37.835 ms  29.366 ms
  5  ge3-14.ar01.gva253.ip-max.net  30.502 ms  32.925 ms  29.370 ms
  6  ae1.cr01.gva253.ip-max.net  45.019 ms  41.335 ms  47.675 ms
  7  xe0-0-1.cr01.gva252.ip-max.net  28.903 ms  33.530 ms  41.954 ms
  8  po1.br01.gva252.ip-max.net  39.794 ms  34.197 ms  28.843 ms
  9  r1gva1.core.init7.net  28.849 ms  32.812 ms  31.988 ms
 10  r1zug1.core.init7.net  47.583 ms  42.633 ms  37.785 ms
 11  r1glb1.core.init7.net  36.323 ms  56.574 ms  34.909 ms
 12  r1zrh1.core.init7.net  50.896 ms  56.617 ms  42.967 ms
 13  ae0-12.zur11.ip6.tinet.net  42.462 ms  41.909 ms  41.557 ms
 14  xe-0-1-1.nyc20.ip6.tinet.net  128.395 ms
 xe-0-1-2.nyc20.ip6.tinet.net  127.736 ms
 xe-0-1-1.nyc20.ip6.tinet.net  120.968 ms
 15  nyiix.iij.net  121.285 ms  121.758 ms  120.904 ms
 16  nyc002bb10.iij.net  121.436 ms  122.211 ms  120.475 ms
 17  abn001bb10.iij.net  121.829 ms  123.181 ms  121.787 ms
 18  2600:803:92f::1  143.860 ms  125.196 ms  179.323 ms
 19  2600:802::23  139.937 ms  132.728 ms  140.416 ms
 20  ge-1-2-0.il1.nyc12.alter.net  130.477 ms
 ge-0-3-0.il1.nyc12.alter.net  130.349 ms  140.231 ms
 21  * * *
 22  gigabitethernet6-0-0.gw5.ams6.alter.net  349.594 ms  129.648 ms
 gigabitethernet7-0-0.gw5.ams6.alter.net  130.583 ms
 23  fastethernet0-0.6b1.ams6.alter.net  138.677 ms  169.896 ms  402.511 ms
 24  tu3.6b1.fft4.alter.net  379.628 ms  156.939 ms  138.227 ms
 25  * * *
 26  ffm-s1-rou-1102.de.eurorings.net  219.035 ms  227.354 ms  236.133 ms
 27  kehl-s2-rou-1103.de.eurorings.net  228.896 ms  221.190 ms  239.280 ms
 28  nntr-s1-rou-1101.fr.eurorings.net  219.410 ms  226.779 ms  230.940 ms
 29  2001:680::134:222:226:160:1  247.598 ms  243.938 ms  218.783 ms
 30  2001:1890:c00:c001::1171:ecca  217.493 ms  242.119 ms  217.778 ms
 31  2001:1890:c00:c001::ee71:ecca  238.297 ms  219.211 ms  218.524 ms
 32  2001:1890:ff::12:122:105:90  257.048 ms  250.699 ms  252.160 ms
 33  wswdc22crs.ipv6.att.net  248.764 ms  268.970 ms  416.443 ms
 34  *
 attga21crs.ipv6.att.net  239.030 ms  241.492 ms
 35  attga409me3.ipv6.att.net  249.902 ms  268.800 ms  253.631 ms
 36  2001:1890:c00:8802::11cc:6c6d  260.203 ms  236.484 ms  245.413 ms

 From 2001:1b60::/32 (Germany, Native)

  2  2001:1b60:0:1:0:1:0:1  0.275 ms  0.247 ms  0.237 ms
  3  Pironet.FRA-12-eth012-615.v6.lambdanet.net  3.199 ms  3.198 ms  4.578
 ms
  4  ae5.irt1.fra44.de.v6.as13237.net  6.518 ms  6.499 ms  6.507 ms
  5  xe-0-3-0-0.fra21.ip6.tinet.net  6.570 ms  6.563 ms  6.543 ms
  6  

Re: EC2 issues starting at about 9am Eastern

2013-07-01 Thread Alessandro Ratti
Il giorno lunedì 1 luglio 2013, ha scritto:

 Hello,

 Is anyone seeing any EC2 issues? We started seeing them as of about 9:01am
 today. The issues are manifesting with different instances sporadically not
 being able to connect to each other or connect to hosts ourside EC2.


Which region?




 Thanks,
 Alex



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Re: www.att.net ipv6 traceroute

2013-07-01 Thread Robert Glover
On 07/01/2013 07:34 AM, David Hill wrote:
 Anyone else noticing odd ipv6 traceroutes to www.att.net
 (2001:1890:1c01:2::40)?

 For example, the first traceroute originating in Chicago, and if the
 hostnames are anything to go by:

 Chicago - Dallas - Atlanta - Miama - NYC - Amsterdam -
 Frankfurt - France - D.C. - Atlanta...


Looks OK from here:

(From 2607:4B00::/32 - SF Bay Area, Native):

mushroom#traceroute www.att.net 
Translating www.att.net...domain server (216.139.32.37) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.att.net (2001:1890:1C01:2::40)

  1 2001:550:2:C::2:1 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  2 2001:550::142 40 msec
2001:550::113 52 msec
2001:550::142 48 msec
  3 2001:550::1040 40 msec
2001:550::1041 48 msec
2001:550::1040 48 msec
  4 2001:550:4::4C 44 msec 36 msec 44 msec
  5 2001:550:3::7A 40 msec 40 msec 44 msec
  6 sffca22crs.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:FF::12:122:86:122) 112 msec
108 msec 112 msec
  7 la2ca22crs.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:FF::12:122:31:133) 104 msec
112 msec 108 msec
  8 dlstx22crs.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:FF::12:122:28:177) 108 msec
104 msec 112 msec
  9 attga21crs.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:FF::12:122:28:173) 108 msec
100 msec 108 msec
 10 attga409me3.ipv6.att.net (2001:1890:FF::12:122:120:244) 112 msec
124 msec 100 msec
 11  *
2001:1890:C00:8802::11CC:6C6D 108 msec 104 msec
 12  *  *  *
 13  *  *  *
 14  *  *  *


-Robert



Re: www.att.net ipv6 traceroute

2013-07-01 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
David Hill writes:
  Anyone else noticing odd ipv6 traceroutes to www.att.net
  (2001:1890:1c01:2::40)?
  

David,

We see what's going on.  It currently affects only a portion of the v6
Internet.  Working on a fix...

Jay B.





ALTDB question.

2013-07-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hello,

A quick question for all.

It's my understanding that the Maintainer object needs to be created first. 
This is accomplished by sending the template to db-ad...@altdb.net

This is not an automated process, but gets done manually. If there is any 
discrepancy then one gets a reply back with the error .

a) Am I correct in my understanding of above ?
b) Is there any auto reply to confirm email receipt ? or only replies are after 
the request is either complete or sent back for missing / incorrect info ?
c) What would be the appropriate amount of time to wait for such a reply ?
d) Is there a way to check to see if the Maintainer object has been created ?

Many thanks in advance.
I dealing with Altdb for the first time, so am looking for some base for what 
to expect and or not to expect.


Regards.
 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom



Re: ALTDB question.

2013-07-01 Thread Jon Lewis

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:


Hello,

A quick question for all.

It's my understanding that the Maintainer object needs to be created first. 
This is accomplished by sending the template to db-ad...@altdb.net

This is not an automated process, but gets done manually. If there is any 
discrepancy then one gets a reply back with the error .

a) Am I correct in my understanding of above ?
b) Is there any auto reply to confirm email receipt ? or only replies are after 
the request is either complete or sent back for missing / incorrect info ?
c) What would be the appropriate amount of time to wait for such a reply ?
d) Is there a way to check to see if the Maintainer object has been created ?


Once created, your maintainer object will be visible in the whois served 
by whois.altdb.net.


If you're just getting started with IRR, no offense intended towards 
ALTDB, but I'd suggest using any of the other free ones.  ARIN and RIPE 
are both, AFAIK, free for anyone to use and support better authentication 
than ALTDB.  Also, AFAIK, ALTDB has been a one (or few?) person volunteer 
effort, and from time to time, there have been service outages, reliant on 
one or a few people for resolution.  ARIN and RIPE are staffed and better 
financially backed.


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