Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Alan Braslau schrieb am 13.10.2022 um 00:43: On 12/10/22 12/10/22, 14:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks. \setupexternalfigure [location=default] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [ left={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}, right={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}] I *like* cow delimiters (but shouldn't the right one be reflected?) ;-) Better? \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [ left={\offset[y=.5\strutdp]{\externalfigure[cow][height=\dimexpr\strutht+.5\strutdp\relax]}\nbsp}, right={\nbsp\mirror{\offset[y=.5\strutdp]{\externalfigure[cow][height=\dimexpr\strutht+.5\strutdp\relax]}}}] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
On 12/10/22 12/10/22, 14:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks. \setupexternalfigure [location=default] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [ left={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}, right={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}] I *like* cow delimiters (but shouldn't the right one be reflected?) ;-) Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks. \setupexternalfigure [location=default] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [ left={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}, right={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}] \starttext \quotation{\input weisman } \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
On 2022-10-11 15:06, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context wrote: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: Am 11.10.22 um 20:00 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context: Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} \stoptext The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a macro \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} Should this be default? But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas? Try \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) Note that this does not fix the problem when the quotation begins a footnote. See the thread "Hanging punctuation misalignment in footnotes" (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2014/077122.html or https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg73516.html, pick your favorite archiver), where the problem is described. An test example follows: \setuplayout [width=9cm, height=12cm] \definefontfeature [default] [default] [protrusion=quality] \setupalign [hanging] \setupquotation [method=font] \setupnote [endnote] [location=none] \setupnotation [footnote] [numberconversion=set 2] \setupnotation [footnote] [align=hanging] \setupwhitespace [medium] \setupbodyfont [libertinus] \showframe \starttext \quotation{{\em Cantharides}} is the reported message from Sir Francis Drake upon defeating the Spanish Armada.\endnote{\quotation{{\em Vovi}} is reportedly the message from James Broun|-|Ramsay on taking Oudh. Both are as likely as the attribution of \quotation{{\em peccavi}} to Napier after his defeat of the Ameer of Scinde.}\footnote{“{\em Vovi}” is reportedly the message from James Broun|-|Ramsay on taking Oudh. Both are as likely as the attribution of \quotation{{\em peccavi}} to Napier after his defeat of the Ameer of Scinde.} {\tfx This problem appears intractable. See \quotation{Re: [NTG-context] Hanging punctuation misalignment in footnotes} on the mailing list, where Wolfgang explains that the problem is struts.} \placenotes[endnote] \stoptext A solution is welcomed. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Hans Hagen > via ntg-context > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 21:12 > An: Denis Maier via ntg-context > Cc: Hans Hagen > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking > > On 10/12/2022 8:49 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning > >> Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 > >> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl > >> Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm > >> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking > >> > >> Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: > >>> Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: > >>>> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] > >>> > > > > Just a quick request for clarification: What does that actually do? > uses glyph in font instead (most opentype have them) Instead of what? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
On 10/12/2022 8:49 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] Just a quick request for clarification: What does that actually do? uses glyph in font instead (most opentype have them) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 > An: ntg-context@ntg.nl > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking > > Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: > > Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: > >> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] > > Just a quick request for clarification: What does that actually do? Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) Oops, I answered only to Leah: I agree. Someone (Hans or Wolfgang, probably) told me at one time, or I picked it up from a discussion on the list, and it’s part of my default setup since. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: > Am 11.10.22 um 20:00 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context: >> Hello, >> I noticed the following problem: >> \showframe >> \startluacode >>fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } >> \stopluacode >> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] >> \setupalign[hanging] >> \starttext >> This text is unquoted. >> “This text is quoted manually.” >> \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} >> This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very >> supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. >> This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not >> \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} >> \stoptext >> The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a >> macro >> \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} >> Should this be default? >> But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas? > > Try > \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) -- Leah Neukirchenhttps://leahneukirchen.org/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Am 11.10.22 um 20:00 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context: Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} \stoptext The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a macro \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} Should this be default? But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas? Try \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking
Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} \stoptext The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a macro \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} Should this be default? But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas? -- Leah Neukirchenhttps://leahneukirchen.org/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___