Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-22 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 21.02.2011 um 18:52 schrieb Johannes Kuester:

> The Google Docs version --
> https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxWgi9nKtBIUNGNmYWM3ZDgtMjUwYy00YjZkLWExZWQtNDY1MDZmMTQ3MGI3&hl=en
> -- does not look like ConTeXt. But I think this is not the typeset and
> published version.


The published book is typeset in pdfTeX with ConTeXt MkII, with hz machinery 
used, resulting in quite nicely balanced lines.

Those Google Docs are scanned (watch OCR mistakes!) and use horrible font 
substitution.


Best example: Preface (=Vorwort), page 6, third paragraph, line 7: "den icaipöq 
(Kairos)"

This "icaipöq" was once greek: "καιρός" :o)


Steffen


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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2011-02-21 um 18:57 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
   I wonder how the author of the  
Wikipedia

article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
version of the dissertation?


PS: In this matter I wouldn’t even trust the pdf metadata --
   could be a fake like the rest.


Good idea, I’ll change the metadata of all of my InDesign works :*)

(BTW: Did werksatz enhance \fakethesis to use real text?)

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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2011-02-21 <17:43:08>, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> > Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
> > version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
> > was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>   From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
>   Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)  

Yeah, we should release a module that scrapes online newspaper
sites using luasocket and randomly inserts the content via
Context xml processing. In combination with [1] this should make
future political candidates dependent on Context to a degree [pun
not intended] that would allow us to coerce them into generous
public funding for the project …

Philipp, who had incredible fun following these developments
 during the last week

[1] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/030558.html


> I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?

PS: In this matter I wouldn’t even trust the pdf metadata --
could be a fake like the rest.

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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> The dissertation was typeset (for publication) by  werksatz • Büro für 
> Typografie und Buchgestaltung. Berlin,
> and my guess is that they are using ConTeXt.

  Yep!

  From http://werksatz.com/framesk.html

Wir bieten Ihnen hochwertigen Buchsatz mit dem Satzsystem
ConTeXt der niederländischen Firma Pragma ADE.

and the next sentence hints that they are probably reading this list.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Johannes Kuester
The Google Docs version --
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxWgi9nKtBIUNGNmYWM3ZDgtMjUwYy00YjZkLWExZWQtNDY1MDZmMTQ3MGI3&hl=en
-- does not look like ConTeXt. But I think this is not the typeset and
published version.

I suppose by the "Satz:" entry on p. 5, the Wikipedia author guessed
that it was typeset in ConTeXt.

And yes, it will definitely bring some attention to ConTeXt.
When you look at "Links auf diese Seite" (i.e. "What links here"),
the article on the dissertation is the first untypical / unexpected link:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Linkliste/ConTeXt

Johannes

On 02/21/2011 06:43 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
>> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
>> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>   From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
>   Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?
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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Matthias Weber
The dissertation was typeset (for publication) by  werksatz • Büro für 
Typografie und Buchgestaltung. Berlin,
and my guess is that they are using ConTeXt.

Matthias


On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

>> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
>> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
>> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>  From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
>   Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?
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Re: [NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?

  From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
he doesn't..."

Arthur

P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
version of the dissertation?
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[NTG-context] Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt

2011-02-21 Thread Johannes Kuester
Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?

See
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_und_Verfassungsvertrag._Konstitutionelle_Entwicklungsstufen_in_den_USA_und_der_EU
(in section "Äußere Form").

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