Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2014, Mark Szepieniec wrote: > > So I guess my problem is resolved, but I'd still like to understand better >> why my earlier solution of doing >> >> \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] >> >> didn't set a default for later instances of \placefigure. I feel like I >> might be missing some aspect of the ConTeXt philosophy, or I'm misreading >> the manual, or it's just a bug...? >> > > \setupfloat[figure] sets the values of \startplacefigure (and > \placefigure), and not for \externalfigure. The width value for > startplacefigure is not used anywhere. > > The default value of \setupfloats[width=...] is used when the float box is > empty. So, the only scenario where the value of \setupfloats[width=...] > will matter is the following: > > \starttext > \setupfloats[width=2cm] > \placefloat{}{} > > \setupfloats[width=10cm] > \placefloat{}{} > \stoptext > > Aditya > > Thanks Aditya, that's very helpful and things make more sense now. Is this stuff documented somewhere or did you consult the source code? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014, Mark Szepieniec wrote: So I guess my problem is resolved, but I'd still like to understand better why my earlier solution of doing \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] didn't set a default for later instances of \placefigure. I feel like I might be missing some aspect of the ConTeXt philosophy, or I'm misreading the manual, or it's just a bug...? \setupfloat[figure] sets the values of \startplacefigure (and \placefigure), and not for \externalfigure. The width value for startplacefigure is not used anywhere. The default value of \setupfloats[width=...] is used when the float box is empty. So, the only scenario where the value of \setupfloats[width=...] will matter is the following: \starttext \setupfloats[width=2cm] \placefloat{}{} \setupfloats[width=10cm] \placefloat{}{} \stoptext Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Christoph Reller < christoph.rel...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >> > On 11/29/2014 10:49 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote: >> > >> >> I'm trying to set a default width for figures with \setupfloat. >> However, >> >> the command doesn't seem to be picking up the width specification, even >> >> though the manual indicates it accepts a width= argument: >> >> >> >> \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] >> >> >> >> \starttext >> >> >> >> \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png]} >> >> >> >> >> >> \stoptext >> >> >> > >> > just >> > >> > \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][width=2cm]} >> > >> > >> > >> >> picture.png just gets inserted at its native size, rather than scaled >> to >> >> have the specified width. What am I doing wrong? (setting minwidth >> >> and/or maxwidth doesn't seem to work either) >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any assistance. >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> Sorry, I should have mentioned I was able to work around it by doing >> exactly that, but I'd rather not have to edit all the \placefigure >> instances if I decide to change the width. >> >> Also I'd like to use a different default width for graphics, so >> \setupexternalfigures[width=XXXcm] wouldn't work well either. >> >> I realize I could define my own macros or something to solve this, but I'm >> just puzzled that setting width in \setupfloat[figure] doesn't work. Am I >> reading the manual wrong, or is is just not implemented yet or something? >> (honest question) >> >> Thanks for your response, >> >> Mark >> > > Hi Mark, > You can use \defineexternalfigure as in the following example. > > \defineexternalfigure[whatever][width=2cm] > \starttext > \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][whatever]} > \stoptext > > See also http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Floating_Objects > > Christoph > > Thanks all for your responses. \defineexternalfigure looks like it does something very close to what I wanted. Googling it brought me to a mailing list thread where a question similar to mine was asked, so for future reference: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/069446.html. So I guess my problem is resolved, but I'd still like to understand better why my earlier solution of doing \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] didn't set a default for later instances of \placefigure. I feel like I might be missing some aspect of the ConTeXt philosophy, or I'm misreading the manual, or it's just a bug...? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > On 11/29/2014 10:49 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to set a default width for figures with \setupfloat. However, > >> the command doesn't seem to be picking up the width specification, even > >> though the manual indicates it accepts a width= argument: > >> > >> \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] > >> > >> \starttext > >> > >> \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png]} > >> > >> > >> \stoptext > >> > > > > just > > > > \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][width=2cm]} > > > > > > > >> picture.png just gets inserted at its native size, rather than scaled to > >> have the specified width. What am I doing wrong? (setting minwidth > >> and/or maxwidth doesn't seem to work either) > >> > >> Thanks in advance for any assistance. > >> > >> Mark > > Sorry, I should have mentioned I was able to work around it by doing > exactly that, but I'd rather not have to edit all the \placefigure > instances if I decide to change the width. > > Also I'd like to use a different default width for graphics, so > \setupexternalfigures[width=XXXcm] wouldn't work well either. > > I realize I could define my own macros or something to solve this, but I'm > just puzzled that setting width in \setupfloat[figure] doesn't work. Am I > reading the manual wrong, or is is just not implemented yet or something? > (honest question) > > Thanks for your response, > > Mark > Hi Mark, You can use \defineexternalfigure as in the following example. \defineexternalfigure[whatever][width=2cm] \starttext \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][whatever]} \stoptext See also http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Floating_Objects Christoph ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On 29 Nov 2014, at 11:49 , Mark Szepieniec wrote > Sorry, I should have mentioned I was able to work around it by doing > exactly that, but I'd rather not have to edit all the \placefigure > instances if I decide to change the width. > > Also I'd like to use a different default width for graphics, so > \setupexternalfigures[width=XXXcm] wouldn't work well either. > > I realize I could define my own macros or something to solve this, but I'm > just puzzled that setting width in \setupfloat[figure] doesn't work. Am I > reading the manual wrong, or is is just not implemented yet or something? > (honest question) Hi Mark, What I would probably do (again) is: 1 leave out the float dimension from the setup and use something like \definefloat[figure][figures] \setupfloat[figure][location=,spacebefore=,spaceafter=,sidespacebefore=,sidespaceafter=] or whatever you want in this respect 2 collect in a separate .tex-file, to be input in your document .tex-file, all figure-data in the form \useexternalfigure[Fig1][YourFigure1.png][width=.x\textwidth]% etc If you want a different uniform figure width you can then easily replace ijn this file all width=.x\textwidth by width=.y\textwidth. 3 In your document .tex-file use \placefigure[here][Fig1]{Title} {\externalfigure[Fig1]} This will probably give you optimal flexibility. I hope it helps. Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 11/29/2014 10:49 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote: > >> I'm trying to set a default width for figures with \setupfloat. However, >> the command doesn't seem to be picking up the width specification, even >> though the manual indicates it accepts a width= argument: >> >> \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] >> >> \starttext >> >> \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png]} >> >> >> \stoptext >> > > just > > \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][width=2cm]} > > > >> picture.png just gets inserted at its native size, rather than scaled to >> have the specified width. What am I doing wrong? (setting minwidth >> and/or maxwidth doesn't seem to work either) >> >> Thanks in advance for any assistance. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ >> listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___ >> >> > > -- > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ Sorry, I should have mentioned I was able to work around it by doing exactly that, but I'd rather not have to edit all the \placefigure instances if I decide to change the width. Also I'd like to use a different default width for graphics, so \setupexternalfigures[width=XXXcm] wouldn't work well either. I realize I could define my own macros or something to solve this, but I'm just puzzled that setting width in \setupfloat[figure] doesn't work. Am I reading the manual wrong, or is is just not implemented yet or something? (honest question) Thanks for your response, Mark ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How does \setupfloat work?
On 11/29/2014 10:49 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote: I'm trying to set a default width for figures with \setupfloat. However, the command doesn't seem to be picking up the width specification, even though the manual indicates it accepts a width= argument: \setupfloat[figure][width=2cm] \starttext \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png]} \stoptext just \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[picture.png][width=2cm]} picture.png just gets inserted at its native size, rather than scaled to have the specified width. What am I doing wrong? (setting minwidth and/or maxwidth doesn't seem to work either) Thanks in advance for any assistance. Mark ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___