Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
Jeff Smith wrote: Hi again, Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit. So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD, from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu Edgy/Feisty. When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? I guess you have to setup OSFONTDIR (in texmf.cnf). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Hi Idris On 10 Nov 2007, at 04:14, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: [you left this out] Sorry, it was just to refer to the discussion The doc-odt-markdown-context workflow seems pretty useful as is. See also I will try it more in depth. My main problem for now is to work from pdfs. Because they're past issues. Once I have new contributions, I will be there for sure :). I'm also curious to see if mine could be a more general approach to (word--)pdf--context conversion. Just started on it. http://code.google.com/p/pandoc/wiki/ConTeXtImprovements Oh, yes, quite useful. But has anyone replied to this on pandoc list? I thought none. I'm working on something else related to this issue that I hope to say more about in the coming weeks ;-) Looking forward to see the news :) Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/ Looks impressive... I think so Looks VERY impressive... Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks etc.? Mmh, maybe you're are referring to the original source? The output one is bare bone (what I need) In any case, I upload the wrong reconstructed pdf (too late at night...) The reconstructed pdf (pdf --xml--context--pdf) is this one, where footnotes are handled correctly (an important point for me). http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/text.pdf I rendered it with XeConTeXt. As noted by Mojca, there are some problems with double apices In relation to footnote 1, this is what is coded in source : Sign and Reality Did you also try pdftohtml -- html -- context? No. You are suggesting via pandoc? Good point. The exported html is very clean. In general it seems that the idea is not to generate information related to document structure (as this should be inferred from pdf) favoring appearance description. Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote: Hi again, Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit. So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD, from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu Edgy/Feisty. When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax has changed a bit since January until now. Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't available ack in January). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
On 10 Nov 2007, at 12:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Only as a note: all the opening quotation marks are wrong! Ok, Thanks Mojca, my fault. it was a problem of encoding, now I set pdftohml to utf8 and everything's fine Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
In any case, I upload the wrong reconstructed pdf (too late at night...) (Sorry, I'm always making too many typos: I uploaded, indeed) -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Hi Saji, Thanks, I've already looked at it. I will surely take into account your idea, as I'd like to convert to context my wiki pages (with wikka wiki). At the end, the problem is html to context. Powerful library indeed, as far as I can understand Ruby. Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:59:18 -0700, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/ Looks impressive... I think so Looks VERY impressive... Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks etc.? Mmh, maybe you're are referring to the original source? The output one is bare bone (what I need) In any case, I upload the wrong reconstructed pdf (too late at night...) Ah! I had a feeling that was too good to be true ;-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Yes, Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks etc.? but cropmarks are the easy parts using layers... :) Best -a- Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote: Hi again, When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] Ah, interesting. And what exactly is the content of Font Name? for example if fc-list displays: Bitstream Charter:style=Regular does that whole string go into the space for Font Name? Here is a more complex example: DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript. The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned. I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) -- John Culleton Precision Typesetting Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:24:32 -0500 John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote: Hi again, When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] Ah, interesting. And what exactly is the content of Font Name? for example if fc-list displays: Bitstream Charter:style=Regular The font name is Bitstream Charter, the style entry is only needed for italic or bold style and you can write Bitstream Charter/I for italic or Bitstream Charter/B for the bold style. does that whole string go into the space for Font Name? Here is a more complex example: DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique I would say you can write DejaVu Sans for the normal version and DejaVu Sans Condensed for the narrow version. Choosing the bold and italic styles should be possible with the feature tags in ConTeXt but I never tried the new font setups for XeTeX in ConTeXt. I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript. The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned. I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On 11/10/07, John Culleton wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote: Hi again, When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] Ah, interesting. And what exactly is the content of Font Name? for example if fc-list displays: Bitstream Charter:style=Regular does that whole string go into the space for Font Name? Unless it's broken this should work: \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Bitstream Charter] Here is a more complex example: DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript. I don't know how it works in that case, I should test. Xserif uses /B, /I and /BI to get \bf, \it and \bi working. I have no idea how XeTeX handles condensed bold oblique, but I would guess that you can provide \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][DejaVu Sans Condensed] The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned. I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) But you need XeTeX for that. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On Nov 10, 2007 6:07 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax has changed a bit since January until now. Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't available ack in January). Wow. I'm the worst ConTeXt user ever. I've asked for help several times now it's mostly been because I was too careless. In this case, my document had no \setupbodyfont. I've always used the Xserif way. *reddens in shame* :-( That being said, I'm interested to know more about the new sytax. Is it documented anywhere? Thanks, and sorry! Jeff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Andrea Valle wrote: Yes, Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks etc.? but cropmarks are the easy parts using layers... :) \setuplayout[marking=on|color] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
On 11/10/07, Jeff Smith wrote: On Nov 10, 2007 6:07 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: You can either use \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt] or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax has changed a bit since January until now. Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't available ack in January). Wow. I'm the worst ConTeXt user ever. I've asked for help several times now it's mostly been because I was too careless. In this case, my document had no \setupbodyfont. I've always used the Xserif way. *reddens in shame* :-( That being said, I'm interested to know more about the new sytax. Is it documented anywhere? Of course not :) You can say (features=default is optional) \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][name:Font Name][features=default] which means that XeTeX will call the font \font\somefont=FontName;mapping=tex-text,... (tex-text is implied by features=default) Back in January and before one achived the same by saying \definefontsynonym[SomeFont]['Font Name;mapping=tex-text'][encoding=uc] Now encoding=uc is not needed any more since it's implied when one runs XeTeX or LuaTeX. To be honest, it's not completely clear to me what should happen with type-xtx typescripts (how to remove uc encoding from there). The other possibility is to say \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][file:lmroman12-regular][features=default] which means that XeTeX will load the font lmroman12-regular.otf from texmf tree, the equivalent in plain XeTeX being \font\somefont=[lmroman12-regular];mapping=tex-text,... When there is neither file: nor name: prefix (\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to load a font in this order - lmr12 (good old tfm fonts) - lmr12 - [lmr12] (the order might change) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
When there is neither file: nor name: prefix (\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to load a font in this order - lmr12 (good old tfm fonts) - lmr12 - [lmr12] The last two items meaning, respectively: • lmr12 Try and load the *font name* lmr12 as an installed font (first string in the output of fc-list, Display Name in Apple Fontbook, etc.)—This is the recommended option in XeteX, by the way • [lmr12] Try and load the *file name* lmr12 from the texmf tree (as looked up by the kpathsea library) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
