Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-15 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

 On 03/14/2012 01:22 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 snip
 For me it shows that some people get nervous because they see that the
 stuttering engine of AOO runs better and better. So let us oil the
 engine that it runs constantly and smooth.
 
 Juergen
 
 
 +1
 
 After the first AOO release, some of this may end.
 

Well, at least we will be able to address those clueless enough
to wonder What has the project been up to these several months...
When we do release, we should emphasize how much of an effort it
was to do the required due-diligence and alterations to get the
IP clearance passed, which was:

  1. Non-trivial
  2. A benefit to the *entire* OOo ecosystem

since it seems that such efforts had not been done for ages.
With AOOo, we now have a release that has gone thru intense
clearance...



Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Joe Schaefer
+1!



- Original Message -
 From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:08 PM
 Subject: Let barking dogs bark
 
 I would recommend that no one respond to the following:
 
     http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/
 
 It really serves no purpose to do so.
 
 I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
 kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
 and the project grow.



Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 3/14/12 6:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

I would recommend that no one respond to the following:

http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/

It really serves no purpose to do so.

I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
and the project grow.

thanks for sharing and screwing my quitting time today ;-)

Well it's again a blog that I don't like but there are so many :-(

For me it shows that some people get nervous because they see that the 
stuttering engine of AOO runs better and better. So let us oil the 
engine that it runs constantly and smooth.


Juergen


Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 I would recommend that no one respond to the following:

 +1


+1, as in the Arab proverb: The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on.

-Rob


 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/

 It really serves no purpose to do so.

 I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
 kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
 and the project grow.



Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni

On 03/14/12 12:09, Joe Schaefer wrote:

+1!



- Original Message -

From: Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Let barking dogs bark

I would recommend that no one respond to the following:

 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/

It really serves no purpose to do so.

I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
and the project grow.


FWIW, somewhere there is a quote from one of my emails that
some people seem to think is hostile towards LO. I was actually
recognizing the virtues of Microsoft (they are the market leaders
for some reason, right?).

Whatever people want to read from my words is not really under
my control but hopefully someone will pick here that all I say is
my strict personal opinion and that my opinions don't necessarily
imply a position from either Apache or the FreeBSD foundations.

Pedro.


Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
 On 03/14/12 12:09, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 +1!



 - Original Message -

 From: Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:08 PM
 Subject: Let barking dogs bark

 I would recommend that no one respond to the following:

     http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/

 It really serves no purpose to do so.

 I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
 kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
 and the project grow.

 FWIW, somewhere there is a quote from one of my emails that
 some people seem to think is hostile towards LO. I was actually
 recognizing the virtues of Microsoft (they are the market leaders
 for some reason, right?).

 Whatever people want to read from my words is not really under
 my control but hopefully someone will pick here that all I say is
 my strict personal opinion and that my opinions don't necessarily
 imply a position from either Apache or the FreeBSD foundations.


I once did an entire blog post where I did not mention LibreOffice at
all, by name, by allusion, or by indirect reference.  And that post
offended them most of all.  It is impossible to avoid offending
someone if they are intent on being offended.

-Rob

 Pedro.


Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Carl Marcum

On 03/14/2012 01:22 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
snip

For me it shows that some people get nervous because they see that the
stuttering engine of AOO runs better and better. So let us oil the
engine that it runs constantly and smooth.

Juergen



+1

After the first AOO release, some of this may end.

It just seems funny that the closer the release gets, the more of this 
we see :)


Maybe there's a campaign going on and we weren't invited :)

Best regards,
Carl


Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 I would recommend that no one respond to the following:


 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/03/14/brand-confusion/

 It really serves no purpose to do so.

 I would also suggest that those who intent is to simply stir this
 kind of stuff up to simply shut the f*ck up, and let the coders code
 and the project grow.


Agreed...carry on folks!

-- 

MzK

Follow your bliss.
 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell


Re: Let barking dogs bark

2012-03-14 Thread Kevin Sisco
People always want to hinder progress.


On 3/14/12, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote:
 On 03/14/2012 01:22 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 snip
 For me it shows that some people get nervous because they see that the
 stuttering engine of AOO runs better and better. So let us oil the
 engine that it runs constantly and smooth.

 Juergen


 +1

 After the first AOO release, some of this may end.

 It just seems funny that the closer the release gets, the more of this
 we see :)

 Maybe there's a campaign going on and we weren't invited :)

 Best regards,
 Carl