Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
On 3/30/12 8:41 AM, Richard Elling wrote: On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: USB drives tend to ignore cache flush commands, which can appear as unreliable disks. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you rarely plug them. Is the kind of size (3.5 TB) and scale mentioned above available in usb drives? Any chance of mirrored pairs as described? Something like: http://sharecenter.dlink.com/ShareCenter_Meet_The_Family Kinda makes DIY look expensive. This is probably a fine box, but it's it's own network fileserver running it's own OS and (presumably) filesystem. Like ReadyNAS, QNAP boxes, etc. I.e. it presumably won't let you plug in existing ZFS disks and access existing data on them, unless I'm missing the internal implementation. Of course for more than suck the data off the old disks over USB, once this may be more reliable then using USB day-to-day. Hugh. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Hugh McIntyre wrote: On 3/30/12 8:41 AM, Richard Elling wrote: On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: USB drives tend to ignore cache flush commands, which can appear as unreliable disks. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you rarely plug them. Is the kind of size (3.5 TB) and scale mentioned above available in usb drives? Any chance of mirrored pairs as described? Something like: http://sharecenter.dlink.com/ShareCenter_Meet_The_Family Kinda makes DIY look expensive. This is probably a fine box, but it's it's own network fileserver running it's own OS and (presumably) filesystem. Like ReadyNAS, QNAP boxes, etc. yes, I was looking for the more traditional USB+RAID boxes, but they seem to be disappearing from the store shelves (good riddance) -- richard -- DTrace Conference, April 3, 2012, http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/dtrace.conf ZFS Performance and Training richard.ell...@richardelling.com +1-760-896-4422 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com writes: Probably not the most reliable, but definitely the easiest, way to get access to your data is to use USB disks because VirtualBox allows direct USB passthrough. My boss uses OpenSolaris with USB drives to get access to the ZFS pool running on his Linux system. [...] There are actually 3 pair of disks that were set up in mirrored zpools: 2 @ 500 gb (Older IDE) 2 @ 500 gb (oldish sata) 2 @ 750 gb (slightly newer sata) [...] Richard Elling richard.ell...@richardelling.com writes: On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Probably not the most reliable, but definitely the easiest, way to get access to your data is to use USB disks because VirtualBox allows direct USB passthrough. My boss uses OpenSolaris with USB drives to get access to the ZFS pool running on his Linux system. USB drives tend to ignore cache flush commands, which can appear as unreliable disks. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you rarely plug them. Is the kind of size (3.5 TB) and scale mentioned above available in usb drives? Any chance of mirrored pairs as described? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Richard Elling richard.ell...@richardelling.com writes: On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Probably not the most reliable, but definitely the easiest, way to get access to your data is to use USB disks because VirtualBox allows direct USB passthrough. My boss uses OpenSolaris with USB drives to get access to the ZFS pool running on his Linux system. USB drives tend to ignore cache flush commands, which can appear as unreliable disks. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you rarely plug them. Is the kind of size (3.5 TB) and scale mentioned above available in usb drives? Any chance of mirrored pairs as described? Something like: http://sharecenter.dlink.com/ShareCenter_Meet_The_Family Kinda makes DIY look expensive. -- richard -- DTrace Conference, April 3, 2012, http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/dtrace.conf ZFS Performance and Training richard.ell...@richardelling.com +1-760-896-4422 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
Probably not the most reliable, but definitely the easiest, way to get access to your data is to use USB disks because VirtualBox allows direct USB passthrough. My boss uses OpenSolaris with USB drives to get access to the ZFS pool running on his Linux system. Jon On 26 March 2012 01:52, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I have several disks from a period when I had a hardware setup of OI on its own physical machine. I'm now trying to run OI as a Virtualbox Guest on a 64bit win 7 machine. I've had it running for some time but just using some small virtual disks to play around with. The win7 box is a Sager (NP8760)Laptop with: Inel Core i7 CPU Q820 @1.73 1.73 cpus (8) - Clevo W870CU mobo and 8GB ram. (The setup described below is expected to be temporary until such time as I can dedicate a physical machine to OI as before.. . probably a good while) I would like to set up those retired disks (which were left exported when I retired the machine) in some kind of exterior holder and access them as disks for the virtual OI. How best to accomplish that? I have 1 fire wire and 3 usb2 ports 1 esata on the win7 machine and the possibility of adding a second NIC by way of the laptops expansion card slot. Just a bit lost as to how to set things up so that the virtual OI b151 can see those disks, import and continue using them as its native disks. Is there some kind of housing with no OS that would stand as the disk holders, but the OS and controllers would be on the virtual OI guest, running on win 7. Or really any way at all to accomplish the idea of using those disks and data sets by way of a Virtual Guest running OI. There are actually 3 pair of disks that were set up in mirrored zpools: 2 @ 500 gb (Older IDE) 2 @ 500 gb (oldish sata) 2 @ 750 gb (slightly newer sata) I'd like to be able to use them all from the Virtual guest OI setup. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Probably not the most reliable, but definitely the easiest, way to get access to your data is to use USB disks because VirtualBox allows direct USB passthrough. My boss uses OpenSolaris with USB drives to get access to the ZFS pool running on his Linux system. USB drives tend to ignore cache flush commands, which can appear as unreliable disks. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you rarely plug them. -- richard -- DTrace Conference, April 3, 2012, http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/dtrace.conf ZFS Performance and Training richard.ell...@richardelling.com +1-760-896-4422 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Revive retired disks with data sets on them with vitual OI
I have several disks from a period when I had a hardware setup of OI on its own physical machine. I'm now trying to run OI as a Virtualbox Guest on a 64bit win 7 machine. I've had it running for some time but just using some small virtual disks to play around with. The win7 box is a Sager (NP8760)Laptop with: Inel Core i7 CPU Q820 @1.73 1.73 cpus (8) - Clevo W870CU mobo and 8GB ram. (The setup described below is expected to be temporary until such time as I can dedicate a physical machine to OI as before.. . probably a good while) I would like to set up those retired disks (which were left exported when I retired the machine) in some kind of exterior holder and access them as disks for the virtual OI. How best to accomplish that? I have 1 fire wire and 3 usb2 ports 1 esata on the win7 machine and the possibility of adding a second NIC by way of the laptops expansion card slot. Just a bit lost as to how to set things up so that the virtual OI b151 can see those disks, import and continue using them as its native disks. Is there some kind of housing with no OS that would stand as the disk holders, but the OS and controllers would be on the virtual OI guest, running on win 7. Or really any way at all to accomplish the idea of using those disks and data sets by way of a Virtual Guest running OI. There are actually 3 pair of disks that were set up in mirrored zpools: 2 @ 500 gb (Older IDE) 2 @ 500 gb (oldish sata) 2 @ 750 gb (slightly newer sata) I'd like to be able to use them all from the Virtual guest OI setup. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
