RE: Oracle Installation
Seema, Why would you need vncserver to install Oracle? Are you trying to install Oracle on the Linux box from a remote location? Julio Cesar Quijada-Reina Programmer Analyst Computer Services at Alfred State College -Original Message- Seema Singh Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Can I install oracle8i on Linux without using vncserver? Like set up the display and run runInstaller. thanks -seema _ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: QuijadaReina, Julio C INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle Installation
Hi, Can I install oracle8i on Linux without using vncserver? Like set up the display and run runInstaller. thanks -seema _ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Installation
Running the Installer from the 8.1.6 CD is not an option? -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, I want to patch 8163 on sun box.Can i copy oracle816 installer from one box to another box and use for patching? If yes, only we need to copy runInstaller.sh and runInstaller both or need to copy OUI dirctory from one server to another one? thx -seema _ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rothouse, Michael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle Installation
Hi, I want to patch 8163 on sun box.Can i copy oracle816 installer from one box to another box and use for patching? If yes, only we need to copy runInstaller.sh and runInstaller both or need to copy OUI dirctory from one server to another one? thx -seema _ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
Hi, Suse7.2 is certified with 9.0.1. It will never be certified with 9.2 and later versions. Suse has a special product SLES - Suse Linux Enterprise Server. It's based on Suse 7.2 and include many official patches and upgrades. Afaik, with Suse 7.2 you may not upgrade your kernel and be certified with Oracle. (7.2 out-of-the-box has 2.4.4) It's not always the problem, but you have a chance to forget about Oracle support when you critically need it. The current politic of Suse regarding Oracle is to support new products from now (or some time in the past) on SLES. So it's certified with 9iR2 (including RAC), iAS 9iR2, Apps 11i. Btw, Suse guys claim that Oracle uses Suse as linux development platform. I know RH has something like Suse's SLES... called RH AS (advanced server), but dunno much about it. We use 7.2 (plus 2.4.16 kernel) for several servers and pretty much happy with it. However, we will move to SLES soon. Alexandre - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:23 PM Linux Hi Ray, I have Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 running on an Suse 7.2 box configured with ext3 file systems. Both instances are working properly and without major issues. Suse 7.2 comes along with a variety of file systems , including ReiserFS , ext3 , ext2 , Aix´s JFS and other that I can´t recall now. Regards, Antonio Belloni Ray Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L u><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux 29/08/02 10:38 Please respond to ORACLE-L Not on the oracle topic: RH is pretty insecure out of the box. If you don't take steps to lock it down the machine will be compromised within the hour in our experience. There are some good web pages out on the steps that need to be taken: http://www.sans.org/newlook/projects/bastille_linux.htm http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Bill/basic_sec.html I'd suggest the use of iptables: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jns/security/iptables/ That said, I have a screaming 8.1.7.4 server running on RH 7.1. I am unhappy with the oracle support matrix for RH, however. It seems to have stalled a 7.1. I'm thinking of giving SuSE 7.2 a run since it is supported, hoping the ext3 filesystem is there. RH7.1 only has ext2. The seemed to be pushing the RH advanced server with 9i, which seems like a real Redmond, WA thing. On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:08:19AM -0800, Docherty, Heather wrote: > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > servers with 8/8i. > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > Heather > Napier University > Edinburgh, Scotland > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Docherty, Heather > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pleas
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
good, thanks for the report. I'll get there one day, since RH has been dropped on the floor, apparently. On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:23:26AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Ray, > > I have Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 running on an Suse 7.2 box configured with > ext3 file systems. Both instances are working properly and without major > issues. > > Suse 7.2 comes along with a variety of file systems , including ReiserFS , > ext3 , ext2 , Aix?s JFS and other that I can?t recall now. > > Regards, > Antonio Belloni > > > > > Ray Stell > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list >ORACLE-L > u><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: cc: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any do's and dont's for >a 9i oracle installation > on RedHat Linux > > > > 29/08/02 10:38 > > Please respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > Not on the oracle topic: > > RH is pretty insecure out of the box. If you don't take steps > to lock it down the machine will be compromised within the hour in > our experience. There are some good web pages out on the steps > that need to be taken: > > http://www.sans.org/newlook/projects/bastille_linux.htm > http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Bill/basic_sec.html > > I'd suggest the use of iptables: > > http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jns/security/iptables/ > > That said, I have a screaming 8.1.7.4 server running on RH 7.1. I am > unhappy with the oracle support matrix for RH, however. It seems to > have stalled a 7.1. I'm thinking of giving SuSE 7.2 a run since it is > supported, hoping the ext3 filesystem is there. RH7.1 only has ext2. > The seemed to be pushing the RH advanced server with 9i, which seems like > a real Redmond, WA thing. > > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:08:19AM -0800, Docherty, Heather wrote: > > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > > servers with 8/8i. > > > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I > don't > > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > > > Heather > > Napier University > > Edinburgh, Scotland > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Docherty, Heather > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > === > Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Ray Stell > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Servic
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
Hi Ray, I have Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 running on an Suse 7.2 box configured with ext3 file systems. Both instances are working properly and without major issues. Suse 7.2 comes along with a variety of file systems , including ReiserFS , ext3 , ext2 , Aix´s JFS and other that I can´t recall now. Regards, Antonio Belloni Ray Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L u><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux 29/08/02 10:38 Please respond to ORACLE-L Not on the oracle topic: RH is pretty insecure out of the box. If you don't take steps to lock it down the machine will be compromised within the hour in our experience. There are some good web pages out on the steps that need to be taken: http://www.sans.org/newlook/projects/bastille_linux.htm http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Bill/basic_sec.html I'd suggest the use of iptables: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jns/security/iptables/ That said, I have a screaming 8.1.7.4 server running on RH 7.1. I am unhappy with the oracle support matrix for RH, however. It seems to have stalled a 7.1. I'm thinking of giving SuSE 7.2 a run since it is supported, hoping the ext3 filesystem is there. RH7.1 only has ext2. The seemed to be pushing the RH advanced server with 9i, which seems like a real Redmond, WA thing. On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:08:19AM -0800, Docherty, Heather wrote: > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > servers with 8/8i. > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > Heather > Napier University > Edinburgh, Scotland > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Docherty, Heather > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
I got 9i release 2 running successfully on a RH7.2 and 7.3 system with no install or runtime problems. I also got release 2 to run without any problems on a Mandrake 8.1 and Mandrake 8.2. No surprise since Mandrake is based on RedHat. ltiu On Thursday 29 August 2002 03:08, Docherty, Heather wrote: > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > servers with 8/8i. > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > Heather > Napier University > Edinburgh, Scotland -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
Not on the oracle topic: RH is pretty insecure out of the box. If you don't take steps to lock it down the machine will be compromised within the hour in our experience. There are some good web pages out on the steps that need to be taken: http://www.sans.org/newlook/projects/bastille_linux.htm http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Bill/basic_sec.html I'd suggest the use of iptables: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jns/security/iptables/ That said, I have a screaming 8.1.7.4 server running on RH 7.1. I am unhappy with the oracle support matrix for RH, however. It seems to have stalled a 7.1. I'm thinking of giving SuSE 7.2 a run since it is supported, hoping the ext3 filesystem is there. RH7.1 only has ext2. The seemed to be pushing the RH advanced server with 9i, which seems like a real Redmond, WA thing. On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:08:19AM -0800, Docherty, Heather wrote: > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > servers with 8/8i. > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > Heather > Napier University > Edinburgh, Scotland > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Docherty, Heather > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat
www.suse.com/oracle Although it's not Red Hat, they have pretty good instructions and tricks for Oracle Installation, many of which are applicable to RH as well. Alexandre - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:03 PM > in case you run into troubles with make consult the RH hompages and refer to the notes for oracle 9 RH server 2.1. These hints/tips work for the distribution of RH 7.0,7.1,7.2,7.3 as well. We have Oracle rdbms 9.2.0 Enterprise edition and OID and IAS on RH 7.2 and RH 7.3. there shouldn't be any problems with the installation. In production we use these Oracle products on Sun sparc 5.8 (4 machines) and on Compaque machines (W2K) - the w2k installations are terminal. > > installing oracle 9.0.1 can be a bit tricky. > > kr mr > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 11:52 AM >>> > I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. > > I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc > servers with 8/8i. > > I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't > know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! > > OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text > prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? > > Heather > Napier University > Edinburgh, Scotland > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Docherty, Heather > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Markus Reger > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat
in case you run into troubles with make consult the RH hompages and refer to the notes for oracle 9 RH server 2.1. These hints/tips work for the distribution of RH 7.0,7.1,7.2,7.3 as well. We have Oracle rdbms 9.2.0 Enterprise edition and OID and IAS on RH 7.2 and RH 7.3. there shouldn't be any problems with the installation. In production we use these Oracle products on Sun sparc 5.8 (4 machines) and on Compaque machines (W2K) - the w2k installations are terminal. installing oracle 9.0.1 can be a bit tricky. kr mr >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 11:52 AM >>> I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc servers with 8/8i. I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? Heather Napier University Edinburgh, Scotland -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Docherty, Heather INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Markus Reger INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux
I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers. I have never run Linux before. I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc servers with 8/8i. I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I don't know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean! OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot? Heather Napier University Edinburgh, Scotland -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Docherty, Heather INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
How to tell if an o/s and oracle installation is 32 or 64 bit
Listers, Here is a little summary of commands to identify the bit version of an o/s and 2 methods of identifying whether a database is a 32 bit or 64 bit installation Operating System Compaq Tru 64 - will be 64 bit HP-UX /usr/sbin/swlist | grep -E '32|64' returns HPUXEng64RT B.11.00.01 English HP-UX 64-bit Runtime Environment if 64 bit Sun isalist -v If the return contains the phrase 'sparcv9' then it is a 64 bit o/s Oracle Version To check Oracle version - 2 methods do a file on $ORACLEHOME/bin/oracle returns either ELF-32 or ELF-64 executable Within sqlplus desc v$session and look for the definition of saddr (if raw(4) then 32 bit else if raw(8) 64 bit) John Hallas Office: ( 016356 ) 77929 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: oracle installation problem
You have successfully install the software, but it fails during database creation. Finish your installation without creating a database, and perform the following steps: 1. Run Database wizard to create a database. 2. At the end of the Database Wizard choose the option to have the files created into an empty directory. 3. Make sure that the parameter file is located at the correct directory, or start the instance NOMOUNT with the pfile option. 4. From there onwards you can proceed with the database creation. You can edit the .bat file that is created with the database wizard, and run the commands line by line if the above is not the solution, in order to find where the problem lies. Regards Theodoros Demosthenous Manager, Product Services Edams Technology Ltd Tel.: +357 22 478300 (Main) Tel.: +357 22 478408 (Direct) Fax: +357 22 478578 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.edams.com -Original Message- Sent: 01 July 2002 11:18 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Check that you have the right path for it. Also check that you have the directory created - Oracle does not create one for you. Alexandre - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 7:33 AM > when we install oracle 8.1.6 on Windows NT > > following error occoured. > > ora-01503 : create control file failed > > after instalation following message desplayed > - > global db name :ghytwo > database system identifier(sid);orcl > internal account password:oracle > sys acc pas. :change_on_install > system account password :manager > > Also listener.ora file not genereted(empty) > > Please suggest solution. It is urgent. > > Atul > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Atul Kumar Srivastav > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Theodoros Demosthenous INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: oracle installation problem
Check that you have the right path for it. Also check that you have the directory created - Oracle does not create one for you. Alexandre - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 7:33 AM > when we install oracle 8.1.6 on Windows NT > > following error occoured. > > ora-01503 : create control file failed > > after instalation following message desplayed > - > global db name :ghytwo > database system identifier(sid);orcl > internal account password:oracle > sys acc pas. :change_on_install > system account password :manager > > Also listener.ora file not genereted(empty) > > Please suggest solution. It is urgent. > > Atul > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Atul Kumar Srivastav > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
oracle installation problem
when we install oracle 8.1.6 on Windows NT following error occoured. ora-01503 : create control file failed after instalation following message desplayed - global db name :ghytwo database system identifier(sid);orcl internal account password:oracle sys acc pas. :change_on_install system account password :manager Also listener.ora file not genereted(empty) Please suggest solution. It is urgent. Atul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Atul Kumar Srivastav INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ? - THANKS
THANKS a lot , Brian , and all who replied !! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 058-548133 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Mon, May 06, 2002 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next time include the release/version you're looking for, ya know!!! As for what needs to be done as root, here's the doc's, now it's your turn to dig. HP-UX, 7.3.3 http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/server73x/AR73/toc.htm http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp/server.733/a52813_1/doc.html http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp/server.733/a43837_2/toc.htm HP-UX, 8.0.5 http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64527.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64525.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64526.pdf HP-UX, 8.1.5 http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.815/a67162/toc.htm http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.815/a67163/toc.htm HP-UX, 8.1.6 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_installguide_816.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_adminguide_816.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_relnotes_816.pdf HP-UX, 8.1.7 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_installguide_817.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_adminguide_817.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/linux_relnotes_817.pd HP-UX, 9.0.1 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_relnotes.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_install.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_installcl.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_unix_admin.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_unix_install.pdf http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp.htm http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64527.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/content.html http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/content.html Brian P. MacLean Oracle DBA, OCP8i Andrey Bronfin esoft.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/02 04:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Hi ! As weird as it sounds - i could not locate the Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX neither on Metalink nor on Google. The only one i was able to find was the "Quick start guide" , which is not a replacement for the full one. Could u please refer me to a URL where i can get one ? I'm especially interested in a pre-/post-installation steps needed to be taken as root. Thanks a lot ! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 058-548133 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrey Bronfin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrey Bronfin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ?
Next time include the release/version you're looking for, ya know!!! As for what needs to be done as root, here's the doc's, now it's your turn to dig. HP-UX, 7.3.3 http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/server73x/AR73/toc.htm http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp/server.733/a52813_1/doc.html http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp/server.733/a43837_2/toc.htm HP-UX, 8.0.5 http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64527.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64525.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64526.pdf HP-UX, 8.1.5 http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.815/a67162/toc.htm http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.815/a67163/toc.htm HP-UX, 8.1.6 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_installguide_816.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_adminguide_816.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_relnotes_816.pdf HP-UX, 8.1.7 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_installguide_817.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/hp-ux_adminguide_817.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/pdf/linux_relnotes_817.pd HP-UX, 9.0.1 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_relnotes.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_install.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_hp_installcl.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_unix_admin.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_unix_install.pdf http://uisnt1.humboldt.edu/otn/library/doc/hp.htm http://otn.oracle.com/doc/hp/server.805/a64527.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/content.html http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/content.html Brian P. MacLean Oracle DBA, OCP8i Andrey Bronfin esoft.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/02 04:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Hi ! As weird as it sounds - i could not locate the Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX neither on Metalink nor on Google. The only one i was able to find was the "Quick start guide" , which is not a replacement for the full one. Could u please refer me to a URL where i can get one ? I'm especially interested in a pre-/post-installation steps needed to be taken as root. Thanks a lot ! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 058-548133 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrey Bronfin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messa
RE: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ?
http://docs.oracle.com/ I will let you do your own searching to find the proper one:-) -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 4:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi ! As weird as it sounds - i could not locate the Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX neither on Metalink nor on Google. The only one i was able to find was the "Quick start guide" , which is not a replacement for the full one. Could u please refer me to a URL where i can get one ? I'm especially interested in a pre-/post-installation steps needed to be taken as root. Thanks a lot ! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 058-548133 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrey Bronfin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ?
go to http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/content.html and scroll down on the page to HPUX... - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:03 AM > Hi ! > As weird as it sounds - i could not locate the Oracle Installation guide for > HP-UX neither on Metalink nor on Google. > The only one i was able to find was the "Quick start guide" , which is not a > replacement for the full one. > Could u please refer me to a URL where i can get one ? > I'm especially interested in a pre-/post-installation steps needed to be > taken as root. > Thanks a lot ! > > > DBAndrey > > * 03-9254520 > * 058-548133 > * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Andrey Bronfin > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
where to find Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX ?
Hi ! As weird as it sounds - i could not locate the Oracle Installation guide for HP-UX neither on Metalink nor on Google. The only one i was able to find was the "Quick start guide" , which is not a replacement for the full one. Could u please refer me to a URL where i can get one ? I'm especially interested in a pre-/post-installation steps needed to be taken as root. Thanks a lot ! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 058-548133 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrey Bronfin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: oracle installation on linux error
Hi, did you mount the cdrom as read only ? If you have it in your fstab, check for an ro entry in the cdrom line. I personally prefer to build a stage on a disk to install oracle from. In case of patches being published, you can go ahead and apply the patches to the stage (if they are of the kind that can be applied to the stage as in 8.0.5 on SuSE 6.2 i.e.). > "Bunyamin K. Karadeniz" schrieb: > > When I try to setup oracle on Linux Mandrake 7 , I encounter an error. > > When I try to run /mnt/cdrom/orainst/oratab.sh it gives error GROUPS > :readonly variable. Why can that be? > > I run the script as the root user. > > Bunyamin > > > - > This Mail has been checked for Viruses > Attention: Encrypted mails can NOT be checked! > > ** > > Diese Mail wurde auf Viren geprueft > Hinweis: Verschluesselte mails koennen NICHT auf Viren geprueft > werden! > - -- | Regards, | | Stefan Jahnke | | BOV AG | | @:D2 Vodafone, Abt.: FBOM | | Tel.: 0211/533-4893| -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stefan Jahnke INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
oracle installation on linux error
When I try to setup oracle on Linux Mandrake 7 , I encounter an error. When I try to run /mnt/cdrom/orainst/oratab.sh it gives error GROUPS :readonly variable. Why can that be? I run the script as the root user. Bunyamin
template for description of Oracle installation
I'am searching for a template of a good looking description of an Oracle installation. Can anybody help me ? Regards, sh476622 --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: sh.476622 sh476622 INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
Well, in reality, there is only one way. You must shamelessly advertise
yourself and invent some legends about yourself ("I saved Priceline...").
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installations?
I've thought that it would be interesting and lucrative work offering
third party apps companies my services in modeling and designing
databases.
Problem is, they don't understand how bad they truly are. Anyone
have ideas on selling ignorant ( no disrespect intended ) folks on
why they need the services of good modelers and DBA's?
Jraed
On Friday 20 April 2001 03:55, Thater, William wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
>
> ->If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know
> that ->it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If
> you ->haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes,
worse
> than ->Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc.
>
> take a look at MetaSolv's TBS.;-) i'll stack it up against Remedy
> anyday. can you say circular references? i knew you could.;-)
>
> --
> Bill Thater Certifieable ORACLE DBA
> Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> You gotta program like you don't need the money,
> You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
> You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
> It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
> ~~
> Another megabytes the dust.
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Re: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
Remedy is a different beast all right. I found out about the schema thing when a PL/SQL function I wrote to retrieve dates (stored in seconds since the epoch) went awry, and the Oracle Discoverer templates I set up for our engineers stopped working. There are a couple tables, ARSCHEMA and I think it's FIELDS that will tell you what the table and field names are. Seagate(Crystal Reports) has an ODBC driver (ugh) that I'm told map these, or you can do what I did which is to create your own view using dynamic SQL. Good Luck. David A. Barbour Oracle DBA Jared Still wrote: > > So, he hasn't told you yet that the schemas are > generated on the fly? > > Jared > > On Friday 20 April 2001 06:00, Lanteigne, Mike wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Funny you mention Remedy. I've been recently introduced to Remedy here at > > my new job. I was about to refresh our QA database with production data > > when I discovered the schema's were different! I took a look at the two > > schemas and WOW, was that a shock (uglyy). Seems the DEV schema is > > different from QA schema too. Next week I will meet with one the > > consultants that implemented the app here. I hope there is some method to > > the apparent madness (at least mapping between schemas). > > > > Mike Lanteigne > > > > The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official position > > of my employer or the organization through which the internet was accessed. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Seley, Linda [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:30 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject:RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE > > > installation > > > > > > With your 'free time' now would be a good time to work on putting Remedy > > > out > > > of business. ;-) It wouldn't be too hard and you'd be the hero of > > > countless DBAs! > > > > > > Linda > > > (who is very grateful never to have had to deal with AR but sure heard > > > some > > > ugly stories!) > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:50 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > installations? > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments embedded > > > > > > On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a > > > > method for modification of a normalized design. There should be > > > > disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase > > > > in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding). > > > > > > > > I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure, > > > > documented in industry journals, and so forth. > > > > > > > > In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using > > > > pure normalized designs? > > > > > > In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers > > > with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code > > > for > > > a normalized database. > > > > > > I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely > > > normalized > > > > > > database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found > > > it necessary for some reason. > > > > > > We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started > > > doing physical modeling. Sigh. > > > > > > If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know > > > that > > > it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If you > > > haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes, worse > > > than Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc. > > > > > > ( 'where is he going with this?' you ask ) > > > > > > One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a > > > normalized > > > schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business. The schema > > > is that bad. > > > > > > > Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper? > > > > > > Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join. I assume &
Re: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
So, he hasn't told you yet that the schemas are generated on the fly? Jared On Friday 20 April 2001 06:00, Lanteigne, Mike wrote: > Hello all, > > Funny you mention Remedy. I've been recently introduced to Remedy here at > my new job. I was about to refresh our QA database with production data > when I discovered the schema's were different! I took a look at the two > schemas and WOW, was that a shock (uglyy). Seems the DEV schema is > different from QA schema too. Next week I will meet with one the > consultants that implemented the app here. I hope there is some method to > the apparent madness (at least mapping between schemas). > > Mike Lanteigne > > The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official position > of my employer or the organization through which the internet was accessed. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Seley, Linda [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:30 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject:RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE > > installation > > > > With your 'free time' now would be a good time to work on putting Remedy > > out > > of business. ;-) It wouldn't be too hard and you'd be the hero of > > countless DBAs! > > > > Linda > > (who is very grateful never to have had to deal with AR but sure heard > > some > > ugly stories!) > > > > -Original Message- > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:50 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > installations? > > > > > > > > Comments embedded > > > > On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > > ... > > > > > As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a > > > method for modification of a normalized design. There should be > > > disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase > > > in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding). > > > > > > I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure, > > > documented in industry journals, and so forth. > > > > > > In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using > > > pure normalized designs? > > > > In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers > > with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code > > for > > a normalized database. > > > > I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely > > normalized > > > > database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found > > it necessary for some reason. > > > > We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started > > doing physical modeling. Sigh. > > > > If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know > > that > > it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If you > > haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes, worse > > than Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc. > > > > ( 'where is he going with this?' you ask ) > > > > One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a > > normalized > > schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business. The schema > > is that bad. > > > > > Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper? > > > > Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join. I assume > > other databases are faster than in years past as well. > > > > > pss, aren't you *ever* going to tell us what happened at your last > > > job? > > > > Sorry, thought I had. > > > > My previous employer laid off several folks. I wasn't among them > > however. Damagement decided to take this opportunity to redeploy several > > positions to HQ in Houston TX. > > > > If you've spent any time in the Pacific NorthWest, you may understand why > > I chose to stay here. Likewise if you've been to Houston :) > > > > ( hope I didn't offend any Texicans :) > > > > I'm taking this opportunity to attempt a slight career change and get > > into > > the contracting side of things. > > > > Jared > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat C
RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
OH crappers, we just put Remedy in here. They are running it in SQL Server though. They just let me have a second DBA. Maybe I will give him responsibility over that one:-) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L installations? Comments embedded On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote: ... > As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a > method for modification of a normalized design. There should be > disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase > in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding). > > I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure, > documented in industry journals, and so forth. > > In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using > pure normalized designs? In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code for a normalized database. I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely normalized database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found it necessary for some reason. We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started doing physical modeling. Sigh. If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know that it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If you haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes, worse than Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc. ( 'where is he going with this?' you ask ) One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a normalized schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business. The schema is that bad. > > Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper? > Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join. I assume other databases are faster than in years past as well. > pss, aren't you *ever* going to tell us what happened at your last > job? Sorry, thought I had. My previous employer laid off several folks. I wasn't among them however. Damagement decided to take this opportunity to redeploy several positions to HQ in Houston TX. If you've spent any time in the Pacific NorthWest, you may understand why I chose to stay here. Likewise if you've been to Houston :) ( hope I didn't offend any Texicans :) I'm taking this opportunity to attempt a slight career change and get into the contracting side of things. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
Hello all, Funny you mention Remedy. I've been recently introduced to Remedy here at my new job. I was about to refresh our QA database with production data when I discovered the schema's were different! I took a look at the two schemas and WOW, was that a shock (uglyy). Seems the DEV schema is different from QA schema too. Next week I will meet with one the consultants that implemented the app here. I hope there is some method to the apparent madness (at least mapping between schemas). Mike Lanteigne The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official position of my employer or the organization through which the internet was accessed. > -Original Message- > From: Seley, Linda [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:30 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE > installation > > With your 'free time' now would be a good time to work on putting Remedy > out > of business. ;-) It wouldn't be too hard and you'd be the hero of > countless DBAs! > > Linda > (who is very grateful never to have had to deal with AR but sure heard > some > ugly stories!) > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:50 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > installations? > > > > Comments embedded > > On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > ... > > As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a > > method for modification of a normalized design. There should be > > disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase > > in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding). > > > > I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure, > > documented in industry journals, and so forth. > > > > In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using > > pure normalized designs? > > In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers > with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code > for > a normalized database. > > I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely > normalized > > database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found > it necessary for some reason. > > We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started > doing physical modeling. Sigh. > > If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know > that > it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If you > haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes, worse than > Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc. > > ( 'where is he going with this?' you ask ) > > One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a > normalized > schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business. The schema > is that bad. > > > > > Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper? > > > > Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join. I assume other > databases are faster than in years past as well. > > > pss, aren't you *ever* going to tell us what happened at your last > > job? > > Sorry, thought I had. > > My previous employer laid off several folks. I wasn't among them however. > Damagement decided to take this opportunity to redeploy several positions > to HQ in Houston TX. > > If you've spent any time in the Pacific NorthWest, you may understand why > I chose to stay here. Likewise if you've been to Houston :) > > ( hope I didn't offend any Texicans :) > > I'm taking this opportunity to attempt a slight career change and get > into > the contracting side of things. > > Jared > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Jared Still > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- >
RE: Where can I find real-life-examples about ORACLE installation
With your 'free time' now would be a good time to work on putting Remedy out of business. ;-) It wouldn't be too hard and you'd be the hero of countless DBAs! Linda (who is very grateful never to have had to deal with AR but sure heard some ugly stories!) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L installations? Comments embedded On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote: ... > As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a > method for modification of a normalized design. There should be > disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase > in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding). > > I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure, > documented in industry journals, and so forth. > > In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using > pure normalized designs? In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code for a normalized database. I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely normalized database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found it necessary for some reason. We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started doing physical modeling. Sigh. If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know that it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast. If you haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it. Yes, worse than Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc. ( 'where is he going with this?' you ask ) One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a normalized schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business. The schema is that bad. > > Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper? > Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join. I assume other databases are faster than in years past as well. > pss, aren't you *ever* going to tell us what happened at your last > job? Sorry, thought I had. My previous employer laid off several folks. I wasn't among them however. Damagement decided to take this opportunity to redeploy several positions to HQ in Houston TX. If you've spent any time in the Pacific NorthWest, you may understand why I chose to stay here. Likewise if you've been to Houston :) ( hope I didn't offend any Texicans :) I'm taking this opportunity to attempt a slight career change and get into the contracting side of things. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seley, Linda INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle installation
Remember that if you use Oracle Migrate from 7.x to 8.x, instead of export/import, you will get an icky performance hit the first time your data is hit. This is when the block-level changes will take place. So, after your migration is "complete", you will probably want to do FTSs on all tables before opening the DB up to The Masses. The changes will be taken care of for you if you use export/import. Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 08:26 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle installation > > > Yeah I can see that absolutely. I just completed migrating a > test database > that we are testing for migration from 7.3.4 to 8.1.6. The reason I > migrated it was because it had originally been on an > UltraSparc 1 that had > 192 MB of RAM and the thing would hardly run on that > hardware. We ended up > having to move it to another machine because of the lack of > resources on the > original machine. So yeah, I can see how doing this on a > machine with 128 > MB of RAM would take more than a day. > --- This message has been scanned for viruses with Trend Micro's Interscan VirusWall. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle installation
Yeah I can see that absolutely. I just completed migrating a test database that we are testing for migration from 7.3.4 to 8.1.6. The reason I migrated it was because it had originally been on an UltraSparc 1 that had 192 MB of RAM and the thing would hardly run on that hardware. We ended up having to move it to another machine because of the lack of resources on the original machine. So yeah, I can see how doing this on a machine with 128 MB of RAM would take more than a day. -::YEX::- <)))>< -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 14 March, 2001 6:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Anyone tried install Oracle8i in Solaris with 128 Mbyte of memory ? Is a stand alone server Oracle 8.1.6, not a production, is not hang but more than 1 day to finish create a database ??? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle installation
Hi, Anyone tried install Oracle8i in Solaris with 128 Mbyte of memory ? Is a stand alone server Oracle 8.1.6, not a production, is not hang but more than 1 day to finish create a database ??? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle Installation on DiskArray
Hi, Thanks to those who replied. I was wondering whether which RAID level to implement. My database is not a very critical 24x7 database. It is a development database. There are going to be only a few users accessing this database. Infact the data as such is not very important as it is test data. Any suggestions on which RAID level to implement? TIA Sanjay
Oracle Installation on DiskArray -
Hi, My company is planning to install Disk Array on Solaris. After that, I am going to install Oracle. I just wanted to know whether is there any special consideration or steps to be taken to install Oracle on this Solaris? If so what are the steps? Where can I get that steps from? I am using Solaris 8 with Oracle 817 Sanjay
