any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or informatica?

2004-01-17 Thread Ryan



Something affordable. These are hot right now and 
I'd like to learn how to use them. I cant find anything on the web. 



Re: any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or

2004-01-17 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: Re: any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or informatica?



Probably best to contact them directly?

I suspect that Ab Initio in particular will be out of reach for this purpose. My understanding is that they choose their customers based on their capability to deliver a data warehouse succesfully. Just a rumor, but it makes a certain amount of sense if you want to streamline your post-sales support costs. I understand that they are more selective of potential customers than the prospective customers are of ETL tools, actually deciding not to sell to certain prospects.

Talk about business intelligence!

If this is true, then I would suspect that student discounts are not an option. Of course, it might just be a rumor...



on 1/17/04 9:44 AM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Something affordable. These are hot right now and I'd like to learn how to use them. I cant find anything on the web. 








Re: any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or

2004-01-17 Thread Ryan
Title: Re: any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or informatica?



does business objects = crystal reports? anyone can 
use crystal reports? 

why are employers picky about people with business 
objects knowledge?

https://secure.businessobjects.com/default.asp

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Gorman 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: any student versions of 
  'business objects' ab initio or
  Probably best to 
  contact them directly?I suspect that Ab Initio in particular will be 
  out of reach for this purpose. My understanding is that they choose 
  their customers based on their capability to deliver a data warehouse 
  succesfully. Just a rumor, but it makes a certain amount of sense if you 
  want to streamline your post-sales support costs. I understand that they 
  are more selective of potential customers than the prospective customers are 
  of ETL tools, actually deciding not to sell to certain prospects.Talk 
  about business intelligence!If this is true, then I would suspect that 
  student discounts are not an option. Of course, it might just be a 
  rumor...on 1/17/04 9:44 AM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Something 
affordable. These are hot right now and I'd like to learn how to use them. I 
cant find anything on the web. 


RE: any student versions of 'business objects' ab initio or infor

2004-01-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan - Some more thoughts for your consideration.
 
1. Consider studying Data Warehousing. These tools are deliberately made
easy to use, so shouldn't take much effort, but understanding how to design
a star schema will make data more accessible to any tool. A good start can
be had at http://www.ralphkimball.com http://www.ralphkimball.com  and
http://www.billinmon.com http://www.billinmon.com  
 
2. In spite of the versatility of these tools, sometimes they can't do
everything, particularly in the ETL phase. Consider learning a tool like
perl to fill the gap.
 
3. There are ways to learn about a tool without operating it. Find a group
like this dedicated to the tool. Try to locate user groups. See if you can
get a manual.
 
4. Once you've learned quite a bit about the tool, contact the local sales
rep for these tools and describe your desires. Use your winning charm. Let
them know you are sincere to have learned what you are able. They may have
some creative suggestions for you. Maybe let you sit in the back of a
training class, or slip you an old manual they are ready to toss. Offer
volunteer labor. It is in their best interest to have trained technical
people available



Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Something affordable. These are hot right now and I'd like to learn how to
use them. I cant find anything on the web. 

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