RE: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I agree.When training new Java programmers, I start them out on Textpad. IDE's provide great shortcuts, but do not help you understand the language. Alot of programmers change jobs frequently, so locking yourself into an IDE is not a very good idea. Our solution = Textpad + Ant + Command Prompt + MS Visual SourceSafe Regards, Tom Pridham http://www.oakscape.com -Original Message- From: Chad Stansbury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:08 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it? I think this is generally true for experienced developers. I tend to steer clear of all the Java IDEs since I'm at the stage in my career where debuggers aren't necessary... and I'd rather code than waste my time learning an IDE that probably won't be around in 2 or 3 years (they tend to become obsolete rather quickly nowadays). For me, Ant + TextPad + DOS prompt + WinCVS is very potent combination. Chad Stansbury - Original Message - From: Josh P. Motto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it? I had the same experience as you - so I copy-and-paste everything right into the DD... it's a lot faster for me than trying to figure out what the GUI tool is doing to my files... --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
Thanks. I thought it was just me. If you like vi try vim from vim.org. It's ported to lots of platforms and has some nice features. Thanks again, Joe --- Ray Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found that using vi or ultraedit + Ant has been a much better combination. --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I think this is generally true for experienced developers. I tend to steer clear of all the Java IDEs since I'm at the stage in my career where debuggers aren't necessary... and I'd rather code than waste my time learning an IDE that probably won't be around in 2 or 3 years (they tend to become obsolete rather quickly nowadays). For me, Ant + TextPad + DOS prompt + WinCVS is very potent combination. Chad Stansbury - Original Message - From: Josh P. Motto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it? I had the same experience as you - so I copy-and-paste everything right into the DD... it's a lot faster for me than trying to figure out what the GUI tool is doing to my files... --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I have found that using vi or ultraedit + Ant has been a much better combination. --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
I had the same experience as you - so I copy-and-paste everything right into the DD... it's a lot faster for me than trying to figure out what the GUI tool is doing to my files... --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: Is EJBMaker Worth it?
Well in general I don't like these kinds of GUI's, but when you are looking at a really big project thats starting from scratch its a nice to be able to look at it from this higher level view. I mean if you have 20+ sizable entities, a handful of dependant objects, and alot of relationships to maintain (especially in EJB2.0 stuff), its a really nice thing to have this guy crank out the stubs and the ejb-jar.xml for the top level. I really wish that the EJBMaker actually worked right. I can't get it to reload the .skeleton file, it also doesn't seem to make the object relationships -- HMPH.. -Original Message- From: Josh P. Motto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:48 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Is EJBMaker Worth it? I had the same experience as you - so I copy-and-paste everything right into the DD... it's a lot faster for me than trying to figure out what the GUI tool is doing to my files... --- Joe Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with EJBMaker for several hours now, and I can't help but think that it would have been faster to do it by hand. Does anyone else have an encouraging experience? Thanks, Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
