Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
Dear Jackie, the responses I received were no less than I expected and hoped for. If I can resolve this at source as I will try to do then it should not develop any further. If there is no evidence then it has to be the woman's right to make an informed decision from any information/resource available ie women's experiences etc. Many Thanks, Anne Original Message - From: Jackie Doolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Anne, I wish you every success and after an extensive search not surprisingly found little level one or two research on this. You have been given all the sources I know - Perhaps the WHO Care of the Umbilical Cord: a review of the evidence may be helpful? If it should come to pass that women are informed that lotus birth will not be performed and women seeking this should birth elsewhere I am very concerned at how the new Qld child safety laws could be (mis)used after this point. Fortunately this legislation has no jurisdiction over the unborn baby but when a lotus birth is demanded by a woman in a hospital that does not 'allow' it, will this then lead hospital management to threaten to envoke this legislation, using the argument that the woman is unnecessarily putting the child at risk of infection or salt absorption? I see this mandating of what women can and can not choose as the beginning of adverserial relationships between women and health care professionals (reminiscent of Qld woman refusing C/S and finding other hospital to access VBAC). In Queensland we desparately need the legal debate between woman's rights versus neonatal rights (basis of child safety law) to be played out. Jackie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Peter Moore Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:58 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Thankyou everyone I will gather all the information etc and present this in the forum.The priority is the woman and her right to choose, I have attended women at a home LB with no problems, but unfortunatly in my position and this environment I need to make sure that they have no reason to implement unacceplble guidelines on the women, Many Thanks, Anne - Original Message - From: Kathy McCarthy-Bushby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, There is a book on lotus birth called Lotus Birth compiled by Shivam Rachana, Greenwood Press, Steeds Creek, Australia, 2000. I think i got my copy from acegraphics. The book covers some information on medical evidence with articles by Dr. Sarah Buckley Leaving well alone. A natural approach to the third stage of labour as well as some story telling by women who chose lotus birth and that's what i call women's evidence. Both forms of evidence as just as valid as each other. cheers kathy - Original Message - From: jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, I coordinate Homebirth Access Sydney and our last issue of Birthings magazine focused on Lotus Birth. It has a few birth stories in it and other information regarding the practice, how to care for the placenta, the reasons why women choose this option etc. I do have a few copies left so if you would like me to send you one just email me your address and I'll pop it in the post. You may also like to try www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_ http://www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_lotus_birth.pdf lotus_birth.pdf www.humantransformation.com.au http://www.humantransformation.com.au/ Good luck Jo _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Peter Moore Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 8:30 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with regarding the practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be allowed this, I am familiar with this practice but a couple of issues were raised : What evidence is available to support this practice ? Why do women choose to do this? Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? When will the cord/placenta separate? I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts but additional research/ evidence would be appreciated. Many Thanks Anne Brisbane. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is
Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
Dear Jo, can I e-mail you my address of list? Many Thanks Anne - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi JO, Please would you send me a copy of the Birthing Mag featuring "Lotus Birth"for the Midwives Clinic at our Unit. We have requests for info this would address I'll copy the links you've suggested for women to look at. Thank you. With kind regardsBrenda Manning http://www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, I coordinate Homebirth Access Sydney and our last issue of Birthings magazine focused on Lotus Birth. It has a few birth stories in it and other information regarding the practice, how to care for the placenta, the reasons why women choose this option etc. I do have a few copies left so if you would like me to send you one just email me your address and Ill pop it in the post. You may also like to try www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_lotus_birth.pdf www.humantransformation.com.au Good luck Jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Anne Peter MooreSent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 8:30 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with regarding the practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be "allowed" this, I am familiar with this practice buta couple ofissues were raised : What evidence is available to support this practice ? Why do women choose to do this? Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? When will the cord/placenta separate? I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts but additional research/ evidence would be appreciated. Many Thanks Anne Brisbane.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep
Just like they hide sugar in everything. Judy --- Ken WArd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having a little one with milk protein allergy I have learnt to check all labelling. They hide milk in just about everything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Emily Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2005 2:09 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep hi there im vegan so heres a few yummy dairy free breakfast ideas: u can use rice or soy milk on cereals - porridge with tahini, honey and fruit - corn puffs (organic bags sold in coles and woolies) with fruit and soy yoghurt - weet-bix are dairy free too - rye toast with avocado and tomato / baked beans (protein) / tahini and fruit / soy cream cheese and tomato - you can get nuttelex margarine if you miss butter - you can use silken tofu to make a scramble sort of like scrambled eggs and add whatever you like to it (tomato, parsely, herbs) - soy milk smoothies with fruit, honey and cinnamon .. etc etc hope you (and bub) enjoy love emily Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ??porridge/ buckwheat pancakes without eggs? wholemeal toast and jam/ honey/ avocado/ banana? It really is a change of mindset isnt it? - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep Pinky McKay wrote: Jo- as I am researching for sleep book - in one sleep study in UK - 12 % of bubs for whom no other reason for sleeplessnes was discovred, were found to be sensitive to dairy- dairy removed for 5 weeks and then challenged - all but one bub reacted again with sleeplessness. Bubs challenged again 12 months later and 10 / 15 still reacted. Allergic symptoms are not necessarily gut related - there is also a diff ! between food allergy and intolerance. Would be very suss if your breastfed bub has excema that he is sensitive to something dietary. You would need to eliminate ALL dairy - including milk in bought biscuits/ yoghurt etc etc for at least ten days - but it could be worth a try. Pinky Oh wow, I didn't realise it could show up in non-gut ways. Ok, this could be tough, but hell, it's worth it. Eggs on toast for breakfast for me! (no butter). Could he be sensitive to eggs, too? Damn, fruit for breakfast... ;) Thanks :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. http://au.movies.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Listen to over 20 online radio stations and watch the latest music videos on Yahoo! Music. http://au.launch.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre UK
Sally Tracy has emailed it to me so I dont need to bother you any more. Thanks, Sally. From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 9:50 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre UK Could someone please send me off line (so the list, so it is not inundated) , the article about the U.K birth centres being closed because of high perinatal mortality rates? I must have deleted it. Thanks, Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] Mackay
Hi Di, I'm sure it will be fine for you to come and have a look through. The Birth Centre number is: 49 686404. Our appointment days are Tues-Thurs, but on Mon Fri we may or may not be there (doing home visits etc). Hope to catch up with you. Cheers Michellediane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to the Mackay Midwives, I am going to be in Mackay for a few days next month and wondering if I can come and see your Birth Centre. Any suggestions on who to contact to arrange this. I am interested in how different midwifery models arrange their work as we are trying to get a caseload model up and running at Wyong (near Gosford). My husband would love to move there too but Im not sure I could handle the humidity! Cheers, Di. Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search
[ozmidwifery] Medicare and insurance article
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1487984.htm Friday, October 21, 2005. 6:00pm Gillard calls for Medicare numbers for midwives Labor's health spokeswoman Julia Gillard says it is time for the federal Government to get on with introducing Medicare provider numbers for midwives, to ensure women are given choices when they give birth. Earlier this year, Health Minister Tony Abbott said he would consider paying midwives Medicare benefits if their patients had been referred by doctors. Ms Gillard has told a state conference of midwives in Sydney today that midwives should also be given access to medical indemnity insurance. "Whilst the Minister for Health, Tony Abbott, has indicated some words of support about getting Medicare provider numbers for midwives, precious little appears to have been done. "Our call would be for the Minister to get on with what he has said he is prepared to do and to be seriously addressing the issue of provider numbers for midwives."
RE: [ozmidwifery] Obs first visits
At King Edwards birth centre the GP/OB review the notes only at 36 weeks. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife Learn from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look for wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find it. Lois Wilson
Re: [ozmidwifery] Jeanine Parvati
Thanks for posting this Sally. Our hearts are so heavy with the impending loss of this Goddess of birth. I know she loved her speaking trip to Australia and has very fond memories of being there. Gloria Lemay, Canada - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Jeanine Parvati Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "Learn from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look for wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find it." Lois Wilson From Jeanine Parvati's latest newsletter on her birthkeeper's website.Our dear crone-sister is ailing. She is unable to receive a liver transplantand is now in a hospice preparing to pass.She is asking for her friends/sisters/kindred spirits to tune in together atnoon on the 23rd of October for 13 minutes and to send her your prayertincture, she refers to this as settling her spiritual affairs and suggeststhat it is time to say what has been left unsaid.Her website is www.birthkeepers.com click on fall 2005 newsletter.If her name sounds familiar you may have read one of her booksJeanine'sbooks include Conscious Conception ,Prenatal Yoga (the first book on thissubject 1970's) and Hygeia , a woman's herbal. She is a woman who has made ahuge contribution to birth in this time and place, in a very unique andvisionary way.PAuline YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "NZhomebirth" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
