Re: [PD] pidip camera settings high fps

2010-12-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hello list, everything works, now I wondered if it was possible to
change the size of the catch, I have a camera that captures from 640
to 1024, but low fps, I would like to capture at 30 fps and 640, if
the capture is small I can run at 30 fps, you can adjust the
dimensions? with pdp_scale suffice?


Best

José
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[PD] pidip camera settings high fps

2010-12-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hello list, everything works, now I wondered if it was possible to
change the size of the catch, I have a camera that captures from 640
to 1024, but low fps, I would like to capture at 30 fps and 640, catch
smaller setear possible dimensions? with pdp_scale suffice?

Best regards

José

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ah ok.  Then don't bother-- I just already had an older "Burrito" 
version installed and was trying to just quickly test some of the 
changes.

-Jonathan

--- On Thu, 12/30/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:

> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> Subject: RE: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available
> To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" , pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 3:00 AM
> If you are trying to run the app
> without installing, then copy pd.tk from pd/src/ dir into
> pd/bin/ dir. I forgot to add this as it is actually not a
> part of the actual install. I will reupload another version
> that includes this but please understand this is not the
> "default" way of things. You will likely have a much better
> experience with doing actually make install and now that
> pd-l2ork exists in a separate path from the pd-vanilla and
> extended, it should happily coexist next to them.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ico
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jonathan Wilkes [mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:05 PM
> > To: pd-list@iem.at;
> Ivica Ico Bukvic
> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now
> available
> > 
> > I tried running the non-supreme burrito version by
> running ./pd-l2ork
> > from the console and got an empty tk window with the
> following errors
> > to the terminal window:
> > tcl: /home/dude/Desktop/libmobiledevice/pd/bin/pd.tk:
> can't open
> > script
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_pd_startup"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > 
> > -Jonathan
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 12/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> > > Subject: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now
> available
> > > To: linux-audio-annou...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> > l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> pd-list@iem.at, pd-...@iem.at,
> l2ork-
> > d...@disis.music.vt.edu,
> u...@disis.music.vt.edu,
> pik...@piksel.no
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 9:57 PM
> > > Please excuse cross-posting.
> > >
> > > Dear friends and fellow FOSS enthusiasts,
> > >
> > > It is my great pleasure to share with the
> community a
> > > belated Holiday
> > > present :-) in a form of latest snapshot of L2Ork
> iteration
> > > of
> > > Pure-Data. Better than ever, the latest version
> comes with
> > > the following
> > > improvements:
> > >
> > > *implemented apply undo for array properties and
> partially
> > > implemented
> > > apply undo for graph-on-parent object properties
> (does not
> > > apply to
> > > abstractions or top-level windows currently until
> I figure
> > > out how to
> > > address the indexing of toplevel windows inside
> the glist
> > > as well as how
> > > to address to which window such an undo
> belongs).
> > > *properties are disabled when right-clicking on
> an
> > > abstraction as
> > > modifying its settings externally does not make
> sense when
> > > one does not
> > > see the actual contents inside it. So, to edit
> the
> > > properties of an
> > > abstraction, one has to open the actual
> abstraction.
> > > *fixed how new arrays are created so that they
> always fit
> > > within the
> > > specified boundaries. Please note arrays that
> have been
> > > already created
> > > in prior patches remain untouched in terms of
> graph
> > > auto-resizing
> > > (legacy code is provided in g_editor.c canvas_vis
> that
> > > deals with this
> > > if anyone wishes to convert their arrays but is
> incomplete
> > > in that it
> > > assumes all arrays require resizing--this is
> however
> > > unnecessary as
> > > simple recreation of said arrays or manual
> readjustment of
> > > their
> > > settings ought to do the trick.
> > >     -This feature needs further
> > > testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> > > *fixed how arrays deal with moving array points
> via mouse

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> If you are trying to run the app without installing, then copy pd.tk from
> pd/src/ dir into pd/bin/ dir. I forgot to add this as it is actually not a 
> part
> of the actual install. I will reupload another version that includes this but
> please understand this is not the "default" way of things. You will likely
> have a much better experience with doing actually make install and
> now that pd-l2ork exists in a separate path from the pd-vanilla and
> extended, it should happily coexist next to them.

Actually, I stand corrected. Because pd-l2ork is now looking for pd.tk in a 
specific folder (namely due to the way binaries were configured in 
/usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin), you will not be able to run pd-l2ork any more 
without installing.

HTH

Best wishes,

Ico


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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ah, ok.

--- On Thu, 12/30/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:

> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> Subject: RE: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available
> To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" , pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 3:00 AM
> If you are trying to run the app
> without installing, then copy pd.tk from pd/src/ dir into
> pd/bin/ dir. I forgot to add this as it is actually not a
> part of the actual install. I will reupload another version
> that includes this but please understand this is not the
> "default" way of things. You will likely have a much better
> experience with doing actually make install and now that
> pd-l2ork exists in a separate path from the pd-vanilla and
> extended, it should happily coexist next to them.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ico
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jonathan Wilkes [mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:05 PM
> > To: pd-list@iem.at;
> Ivica Ico Bukvic
> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now
> available
> > 
> > I tried running the non-supreme burrito version by
> running ./pd-l2ork
> > from the console and got an empty tk window with the
> following errors
> > to the terminal window:
> > tcl: /home/dude/Desktop/libmobiledevice/pd/bin/pd.tk:
> can't open
> > script
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_pd_startup"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> > 
> > -Jonathan
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 12/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> > > Subject: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now
> available
> > > To: linux-audio-annou...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> > l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> pd-list@iem.at, pd-...@iem.at,
> l2ork-
> > d...@disis.music.vt.edu,
> u...@disis.music.vt.edu,
> pik...@piksel.no
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 9:57 PM
> > > Please excuse cross-posting.
> > >
> > > Dear friends and fellow FOSS enthusiasts,
> > >
> > > It is my great pleasure to share with the
> community a
> > > belated Holiday
> > > present :-) in a form of latest snapshot of L2Ork
> iteration
> > > of
> > > Pure-Data. Better than ever, the latest version
> comes with
> > > the following
> > > improvements:
> > >
> > > *implemented apply undo for array properties and
> partially
> > > implemented
> > > apply undo for graph-on-parent object properties
> (does not
> > > apply to
> > > abstractions or top-level windows currently until
> I figure
> > > out how to
> > > address the indexing of toplevel windows inside
> the glist
> > > as well as how
> > > to address to which window such an undo
> belongs).
> > > *properties are disabled when right-clicking on
> an
> > > abstraction as
> > > modifying its settings externally does not make
> sense when
> > > one does not
> > > see the actual contents inside it. So, to edit
> the
> > > properties of an
> > > abstraction, one has to open the actual
> abstraction.
> > > *fixed how new arrays are created so that they
> always fit
> > > within the
> > > specified boundaries. Please note arrays that
> have been
> > > already created
> > > in prior patches remain untouched in terms of
> graph
> > > auto-resizing
> > > (legacy code is provided in g_editor.c canvas_vis
> that
> > > deals with this
> > > if anyone wishes to convert their arrays but is
> incomplete
> > > in that it
> > > assumes all arrays require resizing--this is
> however
> > > unnecessary as
> > > simple recreation of said arrays or manual
> readjustment of
> > > their
> > > settings ought to do the trick.
> > >     -This feature needs further
> > > testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> > > *fixed how arrays deal with moving array points
> via mouse
> > > by restricting
> > > them within the array bounds--this should work
> for all
> > > gui-driven array
> > > operations, while

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
If you are trying to run the app without installing, then copy pd.tk from 
pd/src/ dir into pd/bin/ dir. I forgot to add this as it is actually not a part 
of the actual install. I will reupload another version that includes this but 
please understand this is not the "default" way of things. You will likely have 
a much better experience with doing actually make install and now that pd-l2ork 
exists in a separate path from the pd-vanilla and extended, it should happily 
coexist next to them.

HTH,

Best wishes,

Ico

> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Wilkes [mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:05 PM
> To: pd-list@iem.at; Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available
> 
> I tried running the non-supreme burrito version by running ./pd-l2ork
> from the console and got an empty tk window with the following errors
> to the terminal window:
> tcl: /home/dude/Desktop/libmobiledevice/pd/bin/pd.tk: can't open
> script
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_pd_startup"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> invalid command name "pdtk_post"
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:
> 
> > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> > Subject: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available
> > To: linux-audio-annou...@lists.linuxaudio.org, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
> l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, pd-list@iem.at, pd-...@iem.at, l2ork-
> d...@disis.music.vt.edu, u...@disis.music.vt.edu, pik...@piksel.no
> > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 9:57 PM
> > Please excuse cross-posting.
> >
> > Dear friends and fellow FOSS enthusiasts,
> >
> > It is my great pleasure to share with the community a
> > belated Holiday
> > present :-) in a form of latest snapshot of L2Ork iteration
> > of
> > Pure-Data. Better than ever, the latest version comes with
> > the following
> > improvements:
> >
> > *implemented apply undo for array properties and partially
> > implemented
> > apply undo for graph-on-parent object properties (does not
> > apply to
> > abstractions or top-level windows currently until I figure
> > out how to
> > address the indexing of toplevel windows inside the glist
> > as well as how
> > to address to which window such an undo belongs).
> > *properties are disabled when right-clicking on an
> > abstraction as
> > modifying its settings externally does not make sense when
> > one does not
> > see the actual contents inside it. So, to edit the
> > properties of an
> > abstraction, one has to open the actual abstraction.
> > *fixed how new arrays are created so that they always fit
> > within the
> > specified boundaries. Please note arrays that have been
> > already created
> > in prior patches remain untouched in terms of graph
> > auto-resizing
> > (legacy code is provided in g_editor.c canvas_vis that
> > deals with this
> > if anyone wishes to convert their arrays but is incomplete
> > in that it
> > assumes all arrays require resizing--this is however
> > unnecessary as
> > simple recreation of said arrays or manual readjustment of
> > their
> > settings ought to do the trick.
> >     -This feature needs further
> > testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> > *fixed how arrays deal with moving array points via mouse
> > by restricting
> > them within the array bounds--this should work for all
> > gui-driven array
> > operations, while array alterations via snapshots and other
> > external
> > ways of manipulating arrays remain unbound so as to allow
> > for
> > traditional data-flow debugging--this may change down the
> > road in part
> > due to introduction of the magicGlass option and in part
> > due to belief
> > that data monitoring should only report ranges specified by
> > the graph.
> >     -This feature needs further
> > testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> > *added new feature for arrays where they report a bang
> > through the
> > _changed send (if one is provided)
> > whenever they have been
> > altered by a mouse click'n'drag--this in conjunction with
> > array graph
> > auto-resizing makes arrays formidable alternatives for
> > multisliders.
> >     -This feature needs further
> &g

Re: [PD] pidip error color mode

2010-12-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi, thanks, I solved the web camera connection, but has a considerable
latency, the features are: ubuntu lucid 10.04, pentium 4 at 2.66 and 2
gb ram, NVIDIA GeForce 6200, goes slow, very slow, the system takes 5
minutes to start, and the latency of the camera is obvious, what
camera you recommend?, the previous problem was that the camera was
not supported. I can speed up the fps? ...
Regards

José

2010/12/29 Bastiaan van den Berg :
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 14:11, Jose Luis Santorcuato
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I am working with the library PiDiP, I have previously worked
>> with osx and linux ubuntu, had worked with the netbook acer and had no
>> problems, but now I get the following error when trying to open the
>> video window (i want to show a live video from webcam, easy in olds
>> projects):
>>
>> pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1497715271
>>
>> also pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1195724874
>
> You could try starting pd like this :
>
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so pd
>
> This will put the convert library of libv4l between pd and v4l, and it will
> convert colormodels (and mjpeg for example) into a format that should be
> supported.
>
> Let me know if it works :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> buZz
>



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[PD] understanding fexpr~ example

2010-12-29 Thread ronni montoya
Hi Dear list, i was experimenting with the lorenz example that comes
with the fexpr~ help file.
Can anybody explain me how that example internally works?
how is fexpr~ generating the waveform in this case?


thanks in advance

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I tried running the non-supreme burrito version by running ./pd-l2ork 
from the console and got an empty tk window with the following errors 
to the terminal window:
tcl: /home/dude/Desktop/libmobiledevice/pd/bin/pd.tk: can't open script
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_pd_startup"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"
invalid command name "pdtk_post"

-Jonathan

--- On Wed, 12/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic  wrote:

> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic 
> Subject: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available
> To: linux-audio-annou...@lists.linuxaudio.org, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, 
> l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, pd-list@iem.at, pd-...@iem.at, 
> l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, u...@disis.music.vt.edu, pik...@piksel.no
> Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 9:57 PM
> Please excuse cross-posting.
> 
> Dear friends and fellow FOSS enthusiasts,
> 
> It is my great pleasure to share with the community a
> belated Holiday
> present :-) in a form of latest snapshot of L2Ork iteration
> of
> Pure-Data. Better than ever, the latest version comes with
> the following
> improvements:
> 
> *implemented apply undo for array properties and partially
> implemented
> apply undo for graph-on-parent object properties (does not
> apply to
> abstractions or top-level windows currently until I figure
> out how to
> address the indexing of toplevel windows inside the glist
> as well as how
> to address to which window such an undo belongs).
> *properties are disabled when right-clicking on an
> abstraction as
> modifying its settings externally does not make sense when
> one does not
> see the actual contents inside it. So, to edit the
> properties of an
> abstraction, one has to open the actual abstraction.
> *fixed how new arrays are created so that they always fit
> within the
> specified boundaries. Please note arrays that have been
> already created
> in prior patches remain untouched in terms of graph
> auto-resizing
> (legacy code is provided in g_editor.c canvas_vis that
> deals with this
> if anyone wishes to convert their arrays but is incomplete
> in that it
> assumes all arrays require resizing--this is however
> unnecessary as
> simple recreation of said arrays or manual readjustment of
> their
> settings ought to do the trick.
>     -This feature needs further
> testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> *fixed how arrays deal with moving array points via mouse
> by restricting
> them within the array bounds--this should work for all
> gui-driven array
> operations, while array alterations via snapshots and other
> external
> ways of manipulating arrays remain unbound so as to allow
> for
> traditional data-flow debugging--this may change down the
> road in part
> due to introduction of the magicGlass option and in part
> due to belief
> that data monitoring should only report ranges specified by
> the graph.
>     -This feature needs further
> testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> *added new feature for arrays where they report a bang
> through the
> _changed send (if one is provided)
> whenever they have been
> altered by a mouse click'n'drag--this in conjunction with
> array graph
> auto-resizing makes arrays formidable alternatives for
> multisliders.
>     -This feature needs further
> testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> *when an array subpatch is opened and resized, the array
> automatically
> now resizes to properly fill the window.
>     -This feature needs further
> testing--feedback is most appreciated.
> *fixed where array was not visible after reopening the
> patch if any of
> its points touched upon y graph limits.
> *fixed couple of segfaults caused by gridflow
> incompatibility--more
> problems remain with gridflow library compatibility, likely
> due to
> widgetbehavior  and possibly also magicGlass
> incompatibility. Further
> investigation is necessary.
> *fixed memory leak in the disis_phasor~ external where the
> destructor
> was never properly called and updated its documentation
> (available in
> the l2ork_addons package).
> *fixed highlighting of signal nlets where nlet would revert
> to
> non-signal appearance after being highlighted/connected.
> *reintroduced array listview (this was a regression in
> respect to
> pd-extended).
> *improved appearance of the array listview.
> *fixed a few broken links in the pddp documentation and
> added new
> l2ork-specific array features to

[PD] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Please excuse cross-posting.

Dear friends and fellow FOSS enthusiasts,

It is my great pleasure to share with the community a belated Holiday
present :-) in a form of latest snapshot of L2Ork iteration of
Pure-Data. Better than ever, the latest version comes with the following
improvements:

*implemented apply undo for array properties and partially implemented
apply undo for graph-on-parent object properties (does not apply to
abstractions or top-level windows currently until I figure out how to
address the indexing of toplevel windows inside the glist as well as how
to address to which window such an undo belongs).
*properties are disabled when right-clicking on an abstraction as
modifying its settings externally does not make sense when one does not
see the actual contents inside it. So, to edit the properties of an
abstraction, one has to open the actual abstraction.
*fixed how new arrays are created so that they always fit within the
specified boundaries. Please note arrays that have been already created
in prior patches remain untouched in terms of graph auto-resizing
(legacy code is provided in g_editor.c canvas_vis that deals with this
if anyone wishes to convert their arrays but is incomplete in that it
assumes all arrays require resizing--this is however unnecessary as
simple recreation of said arrays or manual readjustment of their
settings ought to do the trick.
-This feature needs further testing--feedback is most appreciated.
*fixed how arrays deal with moving array points via mouse by restricting
them within the array bounds--this should work for all gui-driven array
operations, while array alterations via snapshots and other external
ways of manipulating arrays remain unbound so as to allow for
traditional data-flow debugging--this may change down the road in part
due to introduction of the magicGlass option and in part due to belief
that data monitoring should only report ranges specified by the graph.
-This feature needs further testing--feedback is most appreciated.
*added new feature for arrays where they report a bang through the
_changed send (if one is provided) whenever they have been
altered by a mouse click'n'drag--this in conjunction with array graph
auto-resizing makes arrays formidable alternatives for multisliders.
-This feature needs further testing--feedback is most appreciated.
*when an array subpatch is opened and resized, the array automatically
now resizes to properly fill the window.
-This feature needs further testing--feedback is most appreciated.
*fixed where array was not visible after reopening the patch if any of
its points touched upon y graph limits.
*fixed couple of segfaults caused by gridflow incompatibility--more
problems remain with gridflow library compatibility, likely due to
widgetbehavior  and possibly also magicGlass incompatibility. Further
investigation is necessary.
*fixed memory leak in the disis_phasor~ external where the destructor
was never properly called and updated its documentation (available in
the l2ork_addons package).
*fixed highlighting of signal nlets where nlet would revert to
non-signal appearance after being highlighted/connected.
*reintroduced array listview (this was a regression in respect to
pd-extended).
*improved appearance of the array listview.
*fixed a few broken links in the pddp documentation and added new
l2ork-specific array features to the pddp documentation.

Latest snapshot is available from the usual place:
http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56

Complete changelog since 11/25/2010 is available here:
http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/Changelog

Happy belated Holidays!

Best wishes,

Ico


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Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes


--- On Sun, 12/19/10, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:

> From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" 
> Cc: "PD List" , "Hans-Christoph Steiner" 
> Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 1:54 AM
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes
> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, so currently I have links inside canvas-help.pd
> to table-help.pd, pd-help.pd, graph-help.pd, and a special
> note about "Put" menu arrays with a link to
> array-help.pd.  array-help.pd is necessary to have
> there because triggering the help patch for the "Put" menu
> array is so obscure (I wonder if anyone here even knows what
> to click to get it.)
> 
> I don't know how you can possibly not get it.

That's probably because you've never gotten it.  Clicking on the graph 
that contains the array opens up 'canvas-help.pd'.  But you can open 
a help patch named 'array-help.pd' when you:

a) right-click on the "Put" menu array and choose "Open",
b) mouse-over an array element until the arrow cursor changes directions,
c) right-click and choose help.

Then you will receive enlightenment from Pd's generous help docs:

sorry, couldn't find help patch for "array.pd"

Though it's certainly to the point, I thought a user might want a 
tad bit more information than that, so I made an array-help.pd 
patch, and linked to it in canvas-help.pd for those few boring users 
who choose not to click random spots within a patch until something 
helpful and relevant happens.

-Jonathan

> Do you expect
> that you can get it by right-clicking the array's label ?
> Because, it doesn't work for any other label (IEMGUI...),
> so, why would it work for Array's label ?
> 
> > That's true, but just because it's possible to do that
> doesn't mean that [inlet] and [outlet] are relevant enough
> to show in the help patch for [table], any more than showing
> [list] in the help patch for [metro].
> > Also, it doesn't work the other way around--
> [tabread], [tabwrite], etc. are not relevant to [pd].
> 
> Actually, when you have a [table], you don't have one
> object, you have two of them.

Three of them.  There's also a graph within the table.

> When you have [table foo],
> receive-symbol "pd-foo" sends to a canvas, whereas
> receive-symbol "foo" sends to the internal t_array object,
> which has all of the array-specific methods. This has to be
> made clear, because it's not like an inheritance-like
> pattern.
> 
> An inheritance-like pattern (or interface pattern) would
> be, for example, to have one single help-patch for most of
> the common methods in iemguis, those that have exactly the
> same behaviour, to emphasise that they are one single family
> (even though inheritance in pd is mostly in our
> imagination). It's a matter of documenting things in a
> non-repetitive, synthetic manner, and with a mindset that
> encourages consistency.

How do you make that system of documentation consistent across 
libraries?  (And show links across libraries?)

> 
> When you have one class that seemingly would include one
> complete other helpfile's content but not the other way
> around, that would usually be an inheritance pattern, but
> it's not here, because instead, it's mostly that a canvas
> has a t_array tacked onto it, vs not.
> 
> It can't be called delegation pattern either, because in a
> delegation pattern, you have two objects, of which you only
> send to one, which will forward the message to the other one
> whenever appropriate. This is not the case here, because you
> can send to two different receive-symbols, and you have to
> send to the correct one.
> 
> I could have said a lot less, but I just thought I'd give
> you some more doc ideas.
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] pidip error color mode

2010-12-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Yes, i used that...maybe i dont considered v4l2ill try and comment...

Thanks

José

2010/12/29 Bastiaan van den Berg :
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 14:11, Jose Luis Santorcuato
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I am working with the library PiDiP, I have previously worked
>> with osx and linux ubuntu, had worked with the netbook acer and had no
>> problems, but now I get the following error when trying to open the
>> video window (i want to show a live video from webcam, easy in olds
>> projects):
>>
>> pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1497715271
>>
>> also pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1195724874
>
> You could try starting pd like this :
>
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so pd
>
> This will put the convert library of libv4l between pd and v4l, and it will
> convert colormodels (and mjpeg for example) into a format that should be
> supported.
>
> Let me know if it works :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> buZz
>



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Re: [PD] pidip error color mode

2010-12-29 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 14:11, Jose Luis Santorcuato <
santorcuat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, I am working with the library PiDiP, I have previously worked
> with osx and linux ubuntu, had worked with the netbook acer and had no
> problems, but now I get the following error when trying to open the
> video window (i want to show a live video from webcam, easy in olds
> projects):
>
> pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1497715271
>
> also pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1195724874
>

You could try starting pd like this :

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so pd

This will put the convert library of libv4l between pd and v4l, and it will
convert colormodels (and mjpeg for example) into a format that should be
supported.

Let me know if it works :)

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[PD] pidip error color mode

2010-12-29 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi all, I am working with the library PiDiP, I have previously worked
with osx and linux ubuntu, had worked with the netbook acer and had no
problems, but now I get the following error when trying to open the
video window (i want to show a live video from webcam, easy in olds
projects):

pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1497715271

also pdp_v4l2: unsupported color model: 1195724874



What is it?

Greetings

Josè

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