Re: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 4/23/20 8:56 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
> much else works. This seems to happen after the screen blanks but I'm
> not sure if that's the cause since it takes a while before it happens.
> 
i don't know what's happening, but i don't think that it's the same as
ingo's problem (which seems to be expected behaviour after all)

gfardsm
IOhannes



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[PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[Martin Peach]

Hi,
Ingo reported that "
For those who are interested what the issue was:
I was moving a window with [hcs/sysgui] automatically during startup.
When the window is visible everything is ok.
When the window is hidden with [*** vis 0( most graphical objects mentioned
above stop updating their graphics.
I. e. a slider sends the values but the slider stays graphically at the
default setting that it had during creation.
Now I'm moving windows with [hcs/sysgui] only when they are visible and it
works again."

Now I'm on Windows10 running pd 0.50.1, not using [hcs/sysgui]. I use
the zoom feature since I would need a microscope to view the patch
(well not quite -- the letter 'F' in 'File' on the menu of the main Pd
window is 1.38mm high).
Anyway, the graphics freeze, in that bot types of number boxes,
arrays, radio buttons, etc.  don't update on the screen although they
remain functional otherwise.
Buttons still flash when banged via the patch or by clicking, but not
much else works. This seems to happen after the screen blanks but I'm
not sure if that's the cause since it takes a while before it happens.

Martin



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Re: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[Ingo]

For those who are interested what the issue was:

 

I was moving a window with [hcs/sysgui] automatically during startup.

When the window is visible everything is ok.

 

When the window is hidden with [*** vis 0( most graphical objects mentioned
above stop updating their graphics.

I. e. a slider sends the values but the slider stays graphically at the
default setting that it had during creation.

 

Now I'm moving windows with [hcs/sysgui] only when they are visible and it
works again.

 

Ingo

 

From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Ingo
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2020 4:34 AM
To: 'Pd-List'
Subject: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic
update)

 

Hi there,

 

I'm on Debian 32-bit with Pd 0.49.

I'm experiencing all the sudden a strange behavior with number boxes,
sliders and symbols.

They are sending values when I click and move the mouse but their graphics
do not get updated.

 

I. e. I can change the value on the output of a number box but its graphics
are not updated anymore.

If I connect

 

[prepend set]

  |

[  (

 

I can see the values but the number box itself keeps displaying "0".

 

When I open the properties of the number box and press Apply or OK the value
will be updated to the latest value but then stay there as far as displaying
goes. Still sending and receiving without any graphical update.

 

Does anybody have an idea what is happening and how I can fix this issue?

 

Thanks!

Ingo

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Re: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[Ingo]

Thanks for the suggestion, Jean-Marie! That's not an option, though!

 

I have been working on this patch for more than 10 years fulltime by now.

The graphical editor can already be turned on or off for optimized playing.

But the patches still need to be editable.

 

It's runnung perfectly on the machine that I use for programming which is the 
identical hardware as the other units that I'm using.

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. All other graphical objects except 
the ones mentioned plus the graphical array are working fine.

 

By now I'm suspecting some currupted files on the OS.

The first thing I'd like to check is the TCL/TK files.

 

I need to know where the files (all files) are located and replace them from a 
system that doesn't show those issues.

The problem is that I have over one hundred of these boxes out there - all over 
the world …
Building a new operating system and making a new image is an option.

However, many people have trouble with creating an image (even though it is 
fully automated).

 

Ingo

 

 

From: Jean-Marie Adrien [mailto:jm.adrien@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2020 10:00 AM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic 
update)

 

Hi

got some problems myself from time to time with GUI elements poorly updating 
when pd has a very big CPU load, zb several instances of pd running at 60 
percent each, developing all day on same patch while running... 

solution : simplify the patch (remove unnecessary GUI elements) or at least 
quit and relaunch

JM

 

Le 6 avr. 2020 à 04:33, Ingo mailto:i...@miamiwave.com> > 
a écrit :

 

Hi there,

 

I'm on Debian 32-bit with Pd 0.49.

I'm experiencing all the sudden a strange behavior with number boxes, sliders 
and symbols.

They are sending values when I click and move the mouse but their graphics do 
not get updated.

 

I. e. I can change the value on the output of a number box but its graphics are 
not updated anymore.

If I connect

 

[prepend set]

  |

[  (

 

I can see the values but the number box itself keeps displaying "0".

 

When I open the properties of the number box and press Apply or OK the value 
will be updated to the latest value but then stay there as far as displaying 
goes. Still sending and receiving without any graphical update.

 

Does anybody have an idea what is happening and how I can fix this issue?

 

Thanks!

Ingo

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Re: [PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[Jean-Marie Adrien]

Hi
got some problems myself from time to time with GUI elements poorly updating 
when pd has a very big CPU load, zb several instances of pd running at 60 
percent each, developing all day on same patch while running... 
solution : simplify the patch (remove unnecessary GUI elements) or at least 
quit and relaunch
JM

> Le 6 avr. 2020 à 04:33, Ingo  a écrit :
> 
> Hi there,
>  
> I'm on Debian 32-bit with Pd 0.49.
> I'm experiencing all the sudden a strange behavior with number boxes, sliders 
> and symbols.
> They are sending values when I click and move the mouse but their graphics do 
> not get updated.
>  
> I. e. I can change the value on the output of a number box but its graphics 
> are not updated anymore.
> If I connect
>  
> [prepend set]
>   |
> [  (
>  
> I can see the values but the number box itself keeps displaying "0".
>  
> When I open the properties of the number box and press Apply or OK the value 
> will be updated to the latest value but then stay there as far as displaying 
> goes. Still sending and receiving without any graphical update.
>  
> Does anybody have an idea what is happening and how I can fix this issue?
>  
> Thanks!
> Ingo
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[PD] Number Boxes, Sliders, Symbols - strange behavior (no graphic update)

[Ingo]

Hi there,

 

I'm on Debian 32-bit with Pd 0.49.

I'm experiencing all the sudden a strange behavior with number boxes,
sliders and symbols.

They are sending values when I click and move the mouse but their graphics
do not get updated.

 

I. e. I can change the value on the output of a number box but its graphics
are not updated anymore.

If I connect

 

[prepend set]

  |

[  (

 

I can see the values but the number box itself keeps displaying "0".

 

When I open the properties of the number box and press Apply or OK the value
will be updated to the latest value but then stay there as far as displaying
goes. Still sending and receiving without any graphical update.

 

Does anybody have an idea what is happening and how I can fix this issue?

 

Thanks!

Ingo

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