[libreoffice-projects] minutes of the ESC call ...

2014-05-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
* Present:
+ Kendy, Bjoern, Stephan, cloph, Lionel, Eike, Miklos, Norbert, Markus,
  Cedric. Eilidh, David, Michael S., Andras, Astron, Jacobo

* Completed Action Items
+ add HackFest hardware / Amazon VMs to Board budget planning (Michael)
+ poke Sophie to check updating is checked in MozTrap (Cloph)
+ added bibisect repo (Miklos)
 
* Dropped Action Items:
+ chasing build / test intermittency:
+ turn the SAL_WARN into a fprintf & send to Cloph ? (Kendy)
+ run the 'make slowcheck' 20x from the top-level & report (Cloph)
=> seems to be fixed by commits on master meanwhile
+ will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)

* Pending Action Items:
+ crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
[ calc is working, writer problems can't easily be nailed down,
  have to use multiple processes ]
[ calc numbers increased a bit - but not as bad as expected ]
+ encourage icon authors to put them into git (Astron)
+ fix the Java bridge for MSVC2012 for 4.3 (Stephan/Michael S.)
+ Add StarOffice OOoXML export removal to 4.2 release notes (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.3 status
   + failing unit tests oddness - the hunt ...
   + investigating Windows test failures (spellchecking)
+ 4.3.0 feature freeze:
   + next week May, 19th -- release date overlap with OSCON
   + take that to QA (Bjoern)
+ 4.2.5 RC1 - when ?
+ freeze in two weeks
+ no trouble expected
+ Android / iOS remote
+ no news
+ Credits:
+ punted until mmmeks is back
http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/
+ bit out of date: worth updating for 4.3 ?
+ 'Contributors to Bundled Templates' - oddly coloured heading.
+ can we separate rows better for readability ?
   + embolden bold name perhaps ?
+ tracking tags in Redmine a stupid idea? (Bjoern)

* LibreOffice 4.3.0 alpha1 bibisect:
+ see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions
+ 182 new builds
+ Cloph did some Windows bibisect builds for Florian UI stuff
 
* 4.3 Features Page (Michael)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3
+ please update it !
 
* Address & Leak Sanitizer (Moggi/Sberg)
+ gcc/clang compiler stuff from GOOG for tracking buffer overruns etc.
+ works mostly out of the box
+ distribute build to the QA team?
+ runtime thing/instrumented build that spits out leaks etc. found during a 
run
+ enable for development/make check? (mst)
+ some junit/java trickiness here (libjpipe.so)
+ QA guys reporting back on bugzilla?
   + sure (sberg)
AI: + send example (Markus)
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-May/061142.html

* FISL Brazil Update (Fridrich)
+ punted -- no Fridrich

* UX update (Astron)
+ start menu bug updated -- not too good an idea
+ vendor spamming etc.
+ discussion at http://wordpress.com/my-stats/
+ autotext stuff?

* GSoC update (Fridrich/Cedric?)
+ where are we supposed to be at as of now ?
+ coding starts next week
+ add students with commit accounts [ for their branches ]
AI: + add them to commiter group (Norbert)

* Distro branches & commits (Michael)
punted -- no Michael

* unit test documents bloating up git repo: (Michael)
+ might be mine (Miklos)
+ automated task?
+ test fail on too big file?
+ these docs are not commited with evil intend, they are sneaking in 
(Bjoern)
+ test failure on big docs might hurt local testing (Bjoern)
+ git-hook would prevent pushing unsuited docs though (Bjoern)
+ even easier (Miklos)
+ gerrit doesnt show how big a binary is (mst)
+ git hook would handle that too (Norbert)
+ people would evade that (Norbert)
+ external repo? (Norbert)
+ raising awareness should be enough for now (Bjoern)
AI: + update git hook (Miklos)
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ new data ?
  
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/91821848a3a50229b8b96e91e9eb053a8ebc5d9a/
 
* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
  
* Gerrit review request (Caolan)
+ lots of stuff building up there that needs review; help appreciated.
+ better shape than last week
+ we need to be more vicious on abandoning old ones 
AI: + walk through old changes, nag people, abandon changes (Bjoern)
 
* Coverity Update (Caolan/Markus)
+ seems like a lot going on there, how are the stats ?
AI: + needs a new build scheduled (moggi)

* collect all bibisects at dev-downloads (Bjoern)
+ AFAIK e.g. Miklos has a bibisect repo "somewhere"
+ suggesting to have all bibisects with a copy at 
http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/bibisect/ too
+ more importantly: have all available bibisects listed at 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect
   + done by now (Miklos)

* C++1

Re: [libreoffice-projects] Multilingual planet - which way to go?

2014-05-15 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
I think one per language is the way, with a lang selector so we can
maintain the same idea as was requested for askbot.
El may 15, 2014 11:44 AM, "Cor Nouws"  escribió:

> Hi Christian,
>
> Christian Lohmaier wrote (15-05-14 15:28)
>
> > But before spending time on setting it up that way: is this what what
> > NL-Projects want/expect? Please state your opinion :-)
>
> I see/expect verry little content that could make it worth to have one
> specifically for Dutch.
>
> > Would one for English, one for "all others" also be an option, or is
> > this a fundamentally bad idea?
>
> The latter, IMHO ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Cor
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Multilingual planet - which way to go?

2014-05-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Christian,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (15-05-14 15:28)

> But before spending time on setting it up that way: is this what what
> NL-Projects want/expect? Please state your opinion :-)

I see/expect verry little content that could make it worth to have one
specifically for Dutch.

> Would one for English, one for "all others" also be an option, or is
> this a fundamentally bad idea?

The latter, IMHO ;)

Cheers,
Cor

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[libreoffice-projects] AskBot: tags per language

2014-05-15 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

good news, everyone - the next step of AskBot improvements is done: Our 
AskBot instance now supports tags per language.


Thanks a lot to Evgeny for implementing it!

We're continuing to improve the system, the next task taken care of will 
be the handling of duplicates.


Florian

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[libreoffice-projects] Multilingual planet - which way to go?

2014-05-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

this mail is more or less a call for vote about what approach is preferred.

In the past there was discussion/requests to have multilang planet.

Problem is that currently used planet aggregator at
planet.documentfoundation.org doesn't expose filtering abilities, so
there has been reservation with regard to allowing non-English
submissions.

The main question is now to whether have one huge planet where ~
everyone is aggregated, no matter what language, and whoever only
wants english has to use filtersettings himself, or whether to setup
multiple independent planets, each focused on one language/set of
languages.

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/400 basically is about
the first variant (all aggregated with filter capability).

But before spending time on setting it up that way: is this what what
NL-Projects want/expect? Please state your opinion :-)

Would one for English, one for "all others" also be an option, or is
this a fundamentally bad idea?

"I want…

[ ] …a single, multilanguage planet
[ ] …separate planets per (set of) languages
[ ] … (own suggestion)"


ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-projects] New features on newdesign site: sortable tables (und user defined forms)

2014-05-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

a script to sort tables by clicking on the table's heading was added
to the newdesign site.

To use it, create a table with a separate header definition and assign
the class "tablesorter".

A mimimalistic example:
This is the caption for the table

Header 1header 2



c
45


b
1


a
444




Currently there is no visual hint as to what sorting is used and that
the table can be sorted - style suggestions welcome :-)

See http://tablesorter.com/docs/ for example(s).

Another addition is the user forms module that was used by some
NL-Project on the old site already - it allows to create feedback
forms that send the submissions via email and/or stores them in the
database.

In case you make use of it:
Please always use with a Spam Protection field and/or monitor it for
abuse. (currently uses ReCaptcha)

ciao
Christian

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