[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Ineiev]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

  Status:   Cancelled => Wait reply 
 Open/Closed:  Closed => Open   

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Follow-up Comment #10:

Sorry, I didn't take into account the category of the item.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Ineiev]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

  Status:  Wait reply => Cancelled  
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Follow-up Comment #9:

No response; cancelling.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Follow-up Comment #8, task #10496 (project administration):

Hi,

There are some issues pending from the project registration
process. Is the project in Savannah ready for review?

Thanks!


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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

  Status: In Progress = Wait reply 


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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

Category:Project Approval = Approved Projects to be
Reviewed
  Status:Done = In Progress

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Follow-up Comment #7:

Hi,

There are some issues pending from the project registration
process. Is the project in Savannah ready for review?

Thanks!


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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

  Status: In Progress = Done   

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Follow-up Comment #6:

Paul responded on the list
http://www.mail-archive.com/savannah-register-public@gnu.org/msg14564.html,
again here are my responses:

_I'll try get to this - I'll probably be a little busy this week and next. If
you want to proceed with it, that'd be great. I'm confident I and others will
fix the issues soon. Setting up the Savannah project will allow me to get
other maintainers involved on this._

Fine, I will approve it right away. I will keep the task open so you can
notify us when you are ready for a review in the version control system of
your choice.

_The one issue we were thinking to not fix though is putting the full-sized
GPL headers into /all/ the files. There are certain files where this is
overkill and not warranted (e.g. because unlicensed copying of just that file
will never ever be something that would bother us), e.g. the NEWS and TODO
files. We're thinking instead to add a short, one-liner to remind the reader
the file is available for distribution under the terms in the accompanying
COPYING file._

Again, please think not about you prosecuting infringements, but about
downstream redistributors worrying about file provenance. If e.g. Debian picks
up the package they will be more comfortable if they can audit the license for
every file, silly as it may be, and be assured that they can legally
distribute all files. The one-liner is probably fine for this purpose.

Thanks, and enjoy your stay on Savannah!



I've approved your project--welcome on board! :-)

You'll receive a mail notification with further instructions shortly.

--
Happy hacking!


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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Follow-up Comment #5, task #10496 (project administration):

Hi Paul,

Since this submission has been stalled for so long because of the admission
process I would like to move it forward. Would you like me to approve it so
you can work on the outstanding issues inside Savannah? I can always keep the
task open so you let us know when you are ready for a final review.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Follow-up Comment #4, task #10496 (project administration):

Hi,

Paul responded on the savannah-register-public mailing list, so I am
including his replies here and answering too.

* You speak about Linux, but we prefer that you use GNU/Linux: it gives
credit to the GNU project besides the Linux kernel. Read the Hosting
requirements https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php for more
details.

_Oops, yes._

* Some documentation files (NEWS, README, Changelog...) lack the required GPL
header.

_The ChangeLog file is deprecated iirc. We'll remove it. For stuff like a
README file, I'm not eniterly sure it makes sense to add a GPL header - it
would detract from the immediacy of the content. Further, I do not anticipate
ever caring about copyright infringement on such files, and anyway it should
already be clear from the COPYING file that these are GPLed (the header is
added to more important files, like C source, just to ensure readers can't
miss the fact)._

For the README file, you can always add the license header at the bottom so
as to keep it readable. Keep in mind that we have to worry not only about
copyright infringement, but also about protecting all users of the package.
Having clear copyright assignments helps make the status of each file legally
sound.

* There are a few PNG files in there, but it's not clear where they come
from. The best solution is usually to state in the README or some similar file
the license for each one.

_You're probably looking at a 'make dist' tarball, and the PNGs come from the
'Dia' files in the same directory, I think._

Probably, so these aren't needed? In this case they can just be removed
safely, right?

* Please upload a new tarball with these issues solved, and let us know when
it's ready for a new review, OK?

_Ok, that will take a week or so - am on holidays. ;)_

Good for you, the task will be left open.

* Finally, you say that Quagga is a fork of GNU Zebra; while forks are
sometimes necessary (and GNU Zebra seems to have stopped development in 2005),
it might be better to help the original package move along. Have you contacted
the authors of GNU Zebra, and/or the GNU project, to see if they would like
some contributors?

_Yes we did. We were in contact with RMS and the FSF about this even before
the fork - which was quite a while ago. The original GNU project is mostly
dead in terms of community and development, relative to Quagga. Unfortunately,
they were not willing to hand the project on._

_As per Karl, things just are as they are in this regard._

That is fine then.

_I'll try address your issues soon. I will probably submit a tarfile without
the auto-generated bits next time (maintainer clean kind of thing)._

If you think this can take too long you are free to close this task and
resubmit when you are ready; whatever suits you better.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Karl Berry]

Follow-up Comment #2, task #10496 (project administration):

Alex, you're right in general to mention the possibility of collaborating
with an existing package (like GNU Zebra).  However, in this particular case
Paul and I have exchanged many emails over many years about the situation, and
it seems the two packages have to remain separate for the foreseeable future,
unfortunately.


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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Follow-up Comment #3, task #10496 (project administration):

Thanks, Karl; of course it was just a suggestion, and maybe I should have
said so. Anyway you understand that it's better to be sure that the GNU
project had given its blessings to the fork, or at least that a friendly merge
had been tried.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Alex Fernandez]

Update of task #10496 (project administration):

  Status:None = In Progress
 Assigned to:None = alexfernandez  

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Follow-up Comment #1:

Hi Paul,

Sorry for the delay; there is a bit of a backlog after the summer Holidays. I
am reviewing your submission on behalf of Savannah, and there are a few issues
with it:
* You speak about Linux, but we prefer that you use GNU/Linux: it gives
credit to the GNU project besides the Linux kernel. Read the Hosting
requirements https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php for more
details.
* Some documentation files (NEWS, README, Changelog...) lack the required GPL
header.
* There are a few PNG files in there, but it's not clear where they come
from. The best solution is usually to state in the README or some similar file
the license for each one.

Please upload a new tarball with these issues solved, and let us know when
it's ready for a new review, OK?

Finally, you say that Quagga is a fork of GNU Zebra; while forks are
sometimes necessary (and GNU Zebra seems to have stopped development in 2005),
it might be better to help the original package move along. Have you contacted
the authors of GNU Zebra, and/or the GNU project, to see if they would like
some contributors?

Thanks, Alex.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

[Paul Jakma]

URL:
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 Summary: Submission of Quagga Routing Software
 Project: Savannah Administration
Submitted by: paul
Submitted on: Sat Jul 10 09:06:09 2010
 Should Start On: Sat Jul 10 00:00:00 2010
   Should be Finished on: Tue Jul 20 00:00:00 2010
Category: Project Approval
Priority: 5 - Normal
  Status: None
 Privacy: Public
Percent Complete: 0%
 Assigned to: None
 Open/Closed: Open
 Discussion Lock: Any
  Effort: 0.00

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Details:

A new project has been registered at Savannah 
This project account will remain inactive until a site admin approves or
discards the registration.


= Registration Administration =

While this item will be useful to track the registration process, *approving
or discarding the registration must be done using the specific Group
Administration
https://savannah.gnu.org/siteadmin/groupedit.php?group_id=10589 page*,
accessible only to site administrators, effectively *logged as site
administrators* (superuser):

* Group Administration
https://savannah.gnu.org/siteadmin/groupedit.php?group_id=10589


= Registration Details =

* Name: *Quagga Routing Software*
* System Name:  *quagga*
* Type: non-GNU software  documentation
* License: GNU General Public License v2 or later



 Description: 
Quagga is a routing software suite, providing implementations of OSPFv2,
OSPFv3, RIP v1 and v2, RIPng and BGP-4 for Unix platforms, particularly
FreeBSD, Linux, Solaris and NetBSD. Quagga is a fork of GNU Zebra which was
developed by Kunihiro Ishiguro.


 Other Software Required: 
GNU Readline, GPLv3, http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/php/chet/readline/rltop.html

ncurses, MIT, http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.html

Net-SNMP (optional), BSD / MIT,  http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/




 Tarball URL: 
http://www.quagga.net/download/quagga-0.99.16.tar.gz






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