[scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned
I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200 million and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll business model. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Sammie A jazzynupe...@... wrote: I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series and make the other books into movies. Also, I hope that they get a new director and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender series. Fate. --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM  Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. The young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby. - Original Message - From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned  The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed The Last Airbender. Fate. On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote: Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that they honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the quality of all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that every Star Wars title is fantastic. But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care... Gerald Haynes http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin Hobbes who? http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun _ _ __ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all open to constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting with studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where the conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It was reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally, actually hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a director. He was also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the time so that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input in an attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be suffering from star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful too quickly. Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat! On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which ain't necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which I love), and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may have relied too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely pulled one in. With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after that things started going more South. In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling. Both love heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But whereas Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature work, M. Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be better for a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour anthology series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours with material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a scifi/horror showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics will allow him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and less reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started out with. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 6:52:54 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Keith, I wish I
[scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type this out, but the movie is due this December! Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest
Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this. Sadly, it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less devoted to it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact title -- it's early). On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? ** [AP News] NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested. Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups. But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in the (Coney Island) event. Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently. He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing governmental administration. There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump onstage. Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest televised live on ESPN. The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an emptier stomach. After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for him. Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest loves: hot dogs and competition. The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 degrees. Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool: with ice cubes melting atop his head. It feels good. He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could never eat that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from Chappaqua, N.Y. Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to stretch from D.C. to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen of Wien Riley, president of the National Hot Dog Sausage Council. Last year, Chestnut ate 68 dogs against Kobayashi's 64. That's about as many as the average American eats in a year — 60, according to the council. Coney Island is said to be the birthplace of fast food. The first hot dog was sold here around 1870 by German butcher Charles Feltman. His competitive, Polish-born employee, Nathan Handwerker, opened his own business in 1916 — Nathan's Famous, still the backdrop to the contest started here that year. According to local lore, immigrants arguing about who was most patriotic settled their dispute by testing who could eat more franks. Irishman Jim Mullen won with 13. After watching the stomach-churning feast, some of the tens of thousands of spectators could have used Pepto-Bismol — a new 2010 sponsor — before they joined the
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned
There's a horrible thought to contemplate early in the AM, B. Unfortunately, the horrible thoughts usually contain the most truth. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:24 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200 million and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll business model. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Sammie A jazzynupe...@... wrote: I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series and make the other books into movies. Also, I hope that they get a new director and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender series. Fate. --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM  Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. The young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby. - Original Message - From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned  The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed The Last Airbender. Fate. On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote: Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that they honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the quality of all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that every Star Wars title is fantastic. But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care... Gerald Haynes http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin Hobbes who? http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun _ _ __ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all open to constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting with studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where the conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It was reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally, actually hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a director. He was also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the time so that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input in an attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be suffering from star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful too quickly. Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat! On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which ain't necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which I love), and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may have relied too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely pulled one in. With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after that things started going more South. In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling. Both love heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But whereas Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature work, M. Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be better for a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour anthology series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours with material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a scifi/horror showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics will allow him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and less reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started
Re: [scifinoir2] Video: Pentagon’s Shape-Shifting Bot Folds Into Boat, Plane
I could see a billion military apps for something like that. Bet someone's still cooking with the project in secret. On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Video: Pentagon’s Shape-Shifting Bot Folds Into Boat, Plane - By Noah Shachtmanhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/author/noah_shachtman/ [image: Email Author] noah.shacht...@gmail.com - June 29, 2010 | - 11:19 am | - Categories: Science!http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/category/science/ - Even for the Pentagon’s science-fiction division, it seemed like a stretch. But in 2007, Darpa really did launch an effort to build programmable matter that could reconfigure itself on commandhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/03/darpa_wants_a_s/. Then, two years later, Harvard and MIT researchers really did make progress building “self-folding origamihttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter/” that just might be able to twist themselves into different shapes. Yesterday, Darpa-backed electrical engineers at the two schools released the stunning results: a shape-shifting sheet of rigid tiles and elastomer joints that can fold itself into a little plane or a boat on demand. It’s “a first step towards making everyday objects whose mechanical properties can be programmedhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-06/hu-ssa062810.php,” Harvard’s Robert Wood says in a statement. The sheet, less than a half-millimeter thick, “is studded with thin foil actuators and flexible electronics. The demonstration material contains 25 total actuators, divided into five groupings. A shape is produced by triggering the proper actuator groups in sequence,” the statement explains. The shape-shifter takes a four-step approach to figures out how to rearrange itself. Step one: Take a 3-D model of a completed origami shape, and then reverse-engineer it to see what kind of “folding paths” are needed to get there. Step two: Take that information to “produc[e] a discrete folding plan” for each tile group, Wood and his fellow researchers note in the *Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences*. “The third algorithm receives each of the individual plans [and] assembles them onto one sheet…. Finally, the fourth algorithm chooses the optimum arrangement [to] minimize either the number of actuators or number of actuator groups.” From there, the thin little machine gets to transforming itself. In Darpa’s dreams, this work will eventually lead to everything from morphing aircraft to self-styling uniforms to a “universal spare parthttp://www.afcea.org/signal/articles/templates/Signal_Article_Template.asp?articleid=1964zoneid=263 .” But in the meantime, a piece of robotic origami that can fold itself into a boat or a plane is wild enough. *See Also:* - Darpa Wants a Shape-Shifterhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/03/darpa_wants_a_s/ - Universal 'Rubik's Cube' Could Become Pentagon Shape-Shifterhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter/ - Shape-Shifting Robots in Actionhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/01/shape-shifting/ - Roomba Maker Will Build Blob 'Botshttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/06/drone-maker-wil/ - Video: Pentagon Blob-Bot Changes Shape, Lurches Aheadhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/video-pentagon-blob-bot-changes-shape-lurches-ahead/ Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/video-pentagon-shape-shifter-folds-itself-into-boat-plane/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Fpolitics+%28Wired%3A+Politics%29#ixzz0slNhZWTQ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Frequency Rotation: Jermaine Jackson, Escape From The Planet
I REMEMBER. (Eerie synthesiser noises) More please. :-) robo-funk Brent Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com writes: Have I been living under a rock, to have missed this? === Frequency Rotation: Jermaine Jackson, ÒEscape From The Planet Of The Ant MenÓ [ http://www.tor.com/community/users/JasonHeller ]Jason Heller [Image] Each week, Frequency Rotation probes a different song with a speculative-fiction theme. Genre, musical quality, and overall seriousness may vary. ÒRemember Michael Jackson,Ó the headlines have been screaming over the past couple weeks. The anniversary of the pop iconÕs death is upon us, and fan and hater alike had better get used to the exhaustive media tributes (and fresh rounds of reissues, lawsuits, and Jackson family drama) that will be popping up every summer from now until the end of existence. Personally, I donÕt mind. I love spectacle, and I love Michael JacksonÑand the two, after all, go hand in hand. His video for ÒThrillerÓ fricasseed my tender brain when I was a kid, and his revamping of trashy genre tropes was uncannily in sync with my own warped development at the time. Michael, though, isnÕt the only Jackson with geek cred: Behold the secret science-fiction life of Jermaine Jackson. More at: [ http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/07/frequency-rotation-jermaine-jackson-escape-from-the-planet-of-the-ant-men?j=24116312e=truthseeker_...@yahoo.coml=15162145_HTMLu=276428062mid=83886jb=0 ]http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/07/frequency-rotation-jermaine-jackson-escape-from-the-planet-of-the-ant-men?j=24116312e=truthseeker_...@yahoo.coml=15162145_HTMLu=276428062mid=83886jb=0 -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type this out, but the movie is due this December! Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest
Yeah, I've seen one of those, where this heavyset guy travels around trying to consume outrageously large portions of food, such as burgers the size of dinner plates and whatnot. I don't get the appeal at all. There was a Looney Tunes--or maybe it was Merry Melodies--cartoon from way back in the day about a little pig who always gorged himself at meals. He ends up having a nightmare where he's force fed by a mad scientist until his body is literally at the bursting point. But despite this, on his way to escape, he can't resist eating one more morsel and--kablam! The screen is awash in color as he explodes. Immediately the young pig wakes up, shaken badly by the dream--until Mom calls for dinner, at which point he runs to the table and proceeds to push his siblings aside and inhale his food as always. Shows like this remind of that cartoon. Back when I was a kid, a lot of the black parents used to point to that cartoon when they'd chastise us kids for being greedy. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:15:59 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this. Sadly, it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less devoted to it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact title -- it's early). On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? ** [AP News] NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested. Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups. But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in the (Coney Island) event. Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently. He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing governmental administration. There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump onstage. Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest televised live on ESPN. The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an emptier stomach. After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for him. Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest loves: hot dogs and competition. The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 degrees. Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce
[scifinoir2] Nanoparticle vaccine cures type 1 diabetes in mice
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Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest
There's a woman doing a show like that now too. Why I dunno. Do we need multiple people eating gigantic portions of food? On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, I've seen one of those, where this heavyset guy travels around trying to consume outrageously large portions of food, such as burgers the size of dinner plates and whatnot. I don't get the appeal at all. There was a Looney Tunes--or maybe it was Merry Melodies--cartoon from way back in the day about a little pig who always gorged himself at meals. He ends up having a nightmare where he's force fed by a mad scientist until his body is literally at the bursting point. But despite this, on his way to escape, he can't resist eating one more morsel and--kablam! The screen is awash in color as he explodes. Immediately the young pig wakes up, shaken badly by the dream--until Mom calls for dinner, at which point he runs to the table and proceeds to push his siblings aside and inhale his food as always. Shows like this remind of that cartoon. Back when I was a kid, a lot of the black parents used to point to that cartoon when they'd chastise us kids for being greedy. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:15:59 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this. Sadly, it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less devoted to it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact title -- it's early). On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? ** [AP News] NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested. Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups. But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in the (Coney Island) event. Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently. He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing governmental administration. There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump onstage. Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest televised live on ESPN. The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an emptier stomach. After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for him. Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest loves: hot dogs and competition. The two
Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest
AP is having a little fun with this story. Major League Eating is a scam. Kobi is right not to sign, but he definitely shouldn't have rushed the stage. He's in much better shape than the cops on the scene, so when it looked liek he wasn't gonna go politely, the cops probably figured better safe than sorry, and cuffed him. I'm waiting to read the first draft of the script before Will Ferrell and Ben Stiller get it. This is a movie that BOTH of them need. On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? ** [AP News] NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested. Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups. But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in the (Coney Island) event. Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently. He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing governmental administration. There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump onstage. Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest televised live on ESPN. The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26- year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an emptier stomach. After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for him. Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest loves: hot dogs and competition. The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 degrees. Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool: with ice cubes melting atop his head. It feels good. He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could never eat that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from Chappaqua, N.Y. Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to stretch from D.C. to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen of Wien Riley, president of the National Hot Dog Sausage Council. Last year, Chestnut ate 68 dogs against Kobayashi's 64. That's about as many as the average American eats in a year — 60, according to the council. Coney Island is said to be the birthplace of fast food. The first hot dog was sold here around 1870 by German butcher Charles Feltman. His competitive, Polish-born employee, Nathan Handwerker, opened his own business in 1916 — Nathan's Famous, still the backdrop to the contest started here that year. According to local lore, immigrants arguing about who was most
Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest
Yeah, this has all the markings of a comedic movie, doesn't it? Actually, I'd rather seen a good documentary on the topic that lets the humour speak for itself. As for Kobi being in shape, yeah. If I remember correctly, he has serious washboard abs and is in great shape overall, unlike most of his competition. I think he doesn't eat anything close to this food on a regular basis. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:57:23 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest AP is having a little fun with this story. Major League Eating is a scam. Kobi is right not to sign, but he definitely shouldn't have rushed the stage. He's in much better shape than the cops on the scene, so when it looked liek he wasn't gonna go politely, the cops probably figured better safe than sorry, and cuffed him. I'm waiting to read the first draft of the script before Will Ferrell and Ben Stiller get it. This is a movie that BOTH of them need. On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? ** [AP News] NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested. Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups. But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in the (Coney Island) event. Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently. He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing governmental administration. There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump onstage. Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest televised live on ESPN. The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an emptier stomach. After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for him. Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest loves: hot dogs and competition. The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 degrees. Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool: with ice cubes melting atop his head. It feels good. He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could never eat that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from Chappaqua, N.Y. Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to stretch from D.C. to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen of Wien Riley, president of the National
Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal self-hatred. As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type this out, but the movie is due this December! Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Will New Spider-Man Take Movies in Dark Direction?
I see another studio doesn't get the point. Where's the fun, wisecracks, etc.? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: Personally, you can mark me in the Who gives a frell? column... http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/07/spider-mans-greatest-hits/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Re: Fun Show THe Good Guys On Fox Tonight
Still loving this show. I mean, how can you note love a series with lines like, He's a cop...only porn stars and cops have moustaches like that...or, you're amazing with that computer--you're like a 'computer machine whisperer...or my fav, uttered by a crook betrayed by an informant, I trusted you! I taught you how to drive a stick! Again, since it's from the Burn Notice creator, I'm not surprised at how fun it is. Which means I fear it'll be canceled, alas. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 7, 2010 8:49:47 PM Subject: Fun Show THe Good Guys On Fox Tonight Anyone else watch this show's premiere a few weeks ago? It's from Burn Notice creator Matt Nix. I found the first show to be hilarious. It's a campy, non-stop action fest that has the humour and even look of something from the '70s. The silly hyperkinetic energy and jokes puts me in mind of things like Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit, or the better Police Squad stuff. The characters are quirky, especially Brad Whitford, who looks and acts like a cop from a '70s picture. The plots are convoluted and improbable, but oh so fun. The premiere had something to do with a pawn shop and a hair dryer, and before the show was done, we're caught up in gunplay--a lot of it--and car chases across Dallas. Look closely and you can definitely feel the Burn Notice energy, along with the feel of other fun cable shows like Psych. Not sure how long it'll last, but it's definitely a fun, silly time--something that unfortunately might have a better chance on USA or one of the other cable channels. *** http://www.fox.com/goodguys/about/ From Matt Nix (Burn Notice), comes THE GOOD GUYS, a new action comedy about what happens when an old-school cop and a modern-day detective expose the big picture of small crime. Once upon the 1970s, DAN STARK (Bradley Whitford) and his partner, Frank Savage, were big-shot Dallas detectives. So big, in fact, that they were lauded as American heroes after saving the Governor's son. Thirty years later, Dan Stark is a washed-up detective who spends most of his time drunk or re-hashing his glory days. A stranger to modern police work who would much rather trust his old-school police instincts, Dan has the reputation as being a bit of a wild card. Able to skate by on the heroic deeds of his yesteryear, he is still a semi-active presence on the force, and with the help of his liquor of choice, occasionally comes through to solve a petty crime. Dan's new partner, JACK BAILEY (Colin Hanks), is an ambitious, by-the-book and overall good detective, but is sometimes a bit too snarky for his own good. His habit of undermining himself has earned him a dead-end position in the department, and he is stuck solving annoying petty theft cases that nobody else wants. Worse, he's been given the thankless task of babysitting Dan, the drunk pariah who can never keep partners for long. Jack may not see it, but he has little chance of getting out of his situation; his knack for making enemies at the station has assured he is not going anywhere. His only ally is ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY LIZ TRAYNOR (Jenny Wade), a quick witted former girlfriend whom Jack hasn't quite gotten over and the one person he turns to for help with his current professional predicament. Until Jack finds his way out of this situation, he is stuck awaiting the day when he can turn everything around, get back to solving actual cases and return to being a real detective. On one fairly typical day, as Jack and Dan are pursuing a Code 58, the Dallas police code for routine investigations, which puts them hot on the case of a stolen humidifier, they inadvertently become engaged in a shootout over a stolen golf bag belonging to a notorious drug smuggler. This starts Jack and Dan on a wild chase to retrieve the bag, recover the contents inside and go after the drug smuggler - all while dodging his hired assassin! The excitement of the case reminds Dan of the way he and Frank busted punks back in the good old days, and he convinces Jack to go along for the ride. Needless to say, many departmental rules are again broken in the reckless pursuit, showing their boss, LIEUTENANT ANA RUIZ (Diana Maria Riva), that Jack and Dan will be spending many more days in the Property Crimes Division, assigned to investigate seemingly minor crimes in order to keep them out of major trouble. THE GOOD GUYS is produced by Fox Television Studios. Matt Nix and Mikkel Bondesen serve as executive producers. Tim Matheson will direct the pilot episode.
Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response. Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on re-watching all of these soon. Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I read was that there were writing direction issues. I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal self-hatred. As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type this out, but the movie is due this December! Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at:
[scifinoir2] Anyone Seen the Film Man from Earth?
Anyone ever seen this indie film? It's based on a story by the late Jerome Bixby. Bixby wrote a handful of episodes for the original Trek series, the screenplay for the movie Fantastic Voyage, and the famous Twilight Zone episodes It's a Good Life and its years-later sequel, It's Still a Good Life. I've heard a smattering of really good reviews about this movie over the last couple of years that make me want to chase it down. Always a good find to discover a truly original scifi flick, you know? The film stars John Billingsley (Phlox on Enterprise), Tony Todd (Candy Man, several Star Trek eps), and William The Greatest American Hero Katt. Anyone see it? ** http://latefilm.com/jerome-bixbys-the-man-from-earth-trailer http://latemag.com/is-jerome-bixbys-the-man-from-earth-this-years-sleeper-hit In amongst the myriad of DVDs on my desk was a screener from Starz for Jerome Bixby's The Man from Earth. It sat there for a while amongst the others not particularly standing out, then on a whim I watched it last night. When it started it seemed like general low budget independent stuff and I figured it might be somewhere between poor or OK. How ever by the end of the movie I was exceedingly surprised. I have a feeling that this story was the now sadly deceased Jerome Bixby's ( Fantastic Voyage ) magnum opus. Director Richard Schenkman's film is very minimalist, really its not much more than a play filmed on location, which at first I thought was a bit of a shame, but actually maybe that was just the right way to do it, take a step back and let the late Bixby weave his storytelling magic. This really has a chance of being the single best piece of screenwriting you will see on a screen large or small this year (really!). Which with the writers on strike in Hollywood should remind people just how important good writers really are. I know Independent, low budget film can be a bit jarring to a lot of viewers, but as this story unfolds you will forget that this was shot in just eight days I promise. Yes it is a bit of a shame Schenkman and the cast which includes Tony Todd (Candyman), David Lee Smith (CSI: Miami's IAB Sergeant Rick Stetler) and John Billingsley (Enterprise's Dr. Phlox) did not have the time and budget to polish this more, but a diamond in the ruff is still a diamond and this little film certainly sparkles. After watching this I went in search of reviews and only found a few, but then I started to notice the feedback of everyday viewers on Amazon , The IMDB and such places and for the vast majority the word Excellent is being thrown around. Word of mouth could really push this film, I know the person I saw it with would not shut up about it. I think Starz should keep an eye on the feedback and maybe up the marketing budget for this because they really could have this years independent smash on their hands. 8 People, 1 room and a thought inducing tale about a man who has (maybe) walked the earth for 14,000 years make this the little film that could.
[scifinoir2] Re: Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
There's a big budget cgi Captain Harlock coming out. It looks great. http://bit.ly/cjDwdP --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response. Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on re-watching all of these soon. Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I read was that there were writing direction issues. I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal self-hatred. As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type this out, but the movie is due this December! Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato Here's the advanced trailer:
Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
I remember that Speed Racer ep--I've seen 'em all a million times. There's the Great Race, where they race across mountains at night in the driving rain. Remember taht one? Speed had to take the Car Acrobatic Team, whose cars had wings on them that allowed them to jump across chasms and someone turn 360 spins while doing so! A whole bunch of racers died in that one. A live action Robotech? That could be really good or really horrible, depending on who does it.But then, that applies to most cartoon-to-movie translations, especially the more fantastical anime. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 10:15:37 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response. Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on re-watching all of these soon. Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I read was that there were writing direction issues. I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal self-hatred. As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is
Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
Speaking of wild cars--and did Speed Racer have anything else?--do you remember the ep where there was an engine so powerful and fast that it was too dangerous to drive? Pops was part of the team that built it, and it was so powerful that every test driver died in fiery crashes. So the creative team decided it was too much for man to control, and buried the engine in a graveyard like some kind of mythical creature or magical artifact! It was great: the engine was found by some unsavory types who planned to race cars with it. They'd created a spray that could give a man temporary super confidence and skill. This was the only one a mortal could the car. Problem was, once the spray wore off, the dude was not only no longer brave, but was reduced to a quivering, whimpering fearful mass. Speed ends up driving the car and is zooming through the streets at night. Drunk with its power, he starts laughing at first, then has trouble focusing. He then starts saying the car is going so fast it's taking him to another dimension--a dimension bourne of speed, then passes out. It was hilarious! I think the engine was the GRX. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 10:15:37 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response. Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on re-watching all of these soon. Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I read was that there were writing direction issues. I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal self-hatred. As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. The