Fw: [SLUG] ask rpm
Dear Mike: Thanks! My situation is just as you said: I install a *.i386.rpm on Slackware ,then it shows a list of package-dependencies-problems BR Henry - Original Message - From: Mick Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] ask rpm On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 03:00, henry shouted from the rooftops: Dear List: I rpm -ivh SDL-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm under Slackware I got a list of *.lib.so that rpm cant find for installation. but I can find those library by locate *.lib.so Is there any config-file(like profile to change $PATH) to lead rpm to find those librarys ? My experience has been that RPM will ONLY find package dependencies amoung the packages it installs. eg if a package is dependant on motif you MUST install a motif RPM, if you use a tarball and build it yourself RPM WILL NOT be satisified. Another possibility is that the libraries have come from an earlier or later version than that required. /\/\ick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] KDE 3.0 on Sid?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:58:19PM +1000, Richard Hayes wrote: When do you think the KDE packages will be available for Sid? Currently I'm working on the 3.1 tree, not 3.0, and Chris Cheney is working on the 3.0 tree. He's very, very close to completion; we keep pausing along the way to fix stuff that should be done better. The latest addition to the do-it-right brigade is kdm - we've updated all the scripts to fix its menus and the like. Should be within 48 hours, knock on wood. -- Daniel Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED] sel need help: my first packet to my provider gets lost :-( netgod sel: dont send the first one, start with #2 msg22443/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Failing Hardware - HDA: Lost Interrupt?
Scott Ragen wrote:
On one of the boxes I maintain, is having problems with the box. It
mysteriously reboots and freezes (including the network).
The errors I get in the logs are:
Apr 10 19:10:44 fsbris kernel: hda: lost interrupt
Apr 10 19:10:44 fsbris kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
Apr 10 19:10:44 fsbris kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
This happened every now and then, its not constant.
I also checked google, and it mentioned making sure the APM settings are
correct, and perhaps turning DMA off/on, and see if it helps. APM is not
enabled in the bios, or kernel (/proc/apm is not present), and I booted up
with lilo command ide=nodma The lilo command made it worse as when there is
a heavy IDE load the error message is constant, but it doesn't freeze or
reboot!
Could this be a hardware problem, or is there somewhere else I need to look?
Well I would just check that the IDE or SCSI (whatever you use)
controller card is seated properly on the motherboard. Pull it out and
put it back in again. Then check all the cables connecting the hard
drive. Reseat them as well. Doing these things can't hurt (earth
yourself with a static strap or some alfoil from the kitchen). Then just
see how it goes.
Mike
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Re: Linux movies and songs - was - [SLUG] stopping StarOffice services
That was crap. Words do not express. Well they do... that was crap D On 0, Christopher Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of an idea I had of writing a song about linux. (somewhat similar in style to the War of the World's But still they come) A workmate told me aobut this other song which got big on TripleJ called Cows with Guns, I said to him, it's about time for another silly song to hit the charts. Then The Penguins Come. Then the penguins come, crashing through the gates Then the penguins come, the windows start to shake Then the penguins come, the demons are no match Then the penguins co-o-ome, riding on the GNU None can withstand, as they go from land to land Breaking the chains of those bound to the EULAS Sharing the good news, on the slashdot GNUs No more starving people, freshmeat with opensource for all The new Wine is flowing, Sometimes a crowd pleaser. See the penguins dancing Samba, while they're eating pizza. It's like the Sun is rising, with a Big Blue sky. But freely for everyone, you can even still use Vi. The Jobs are no problem mac, they've almost joined the herd. And though they believed Darwin, you can't see Evolution. You just can't stop the tide, that brings the penguins into shore Though they move slow, it's good to know, they've heeded the call Gnomes and other cuties (QT's) are giving it their best To empower the X GUI and liberate the desk Not as easy as it might Ximian, they strive for a common goal To bring more enlightment and functionality to us all Some penguins come with Red Hats, others have yellow dogs They're really posing a threat, as too, some say Lin does Suse and Deb, some wearing slacks, and theres a man called Drake United they will conquer, and new ground they will take Taking over servers, gathering in clusters Shattering the hopes of the bill, they're the windows-busters It marks the end to piracy, that'll catch you in the net By sharing and combining apps, all our needs are met Then the penguins come, crashing through the gates Then the penguins come, the windows start to shake Then the penguins come, the demons are no match Then the penguins co-o-ome, riding on the GNU Enjoy Chris On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:21:38 +1000 Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Croft wrote: Mike and Martin, Thanks for your help. Those services kept rising from the ashes. Yeah we could have a UNIX movie Queen of the Daemons instead of Queen of the Dammned :-) xdm and gdm are like that too, kill'em and up spawns another vampire :-) Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/02 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Cron Weird Problem from a newby
I have browsed the mailing list on any cron issues, but could not find an answer to the problem I am currently experiencing. So here goes. I just got my own server that had Linux pre-installed on there. My cron problem are 1. jobs that I created as root in /var/spool/cron is not getting executed. 2. How do I give crontab access to other users on the server ? Issue 1: Cron not working === Below is detailed instructions on what I did, and why I think this is the problem. I cannot resolve it due to my lack of knowledge on cron, linux etc ... 1. I first checked to see if cron is actually running. The output is pasted below. [root@ensim admin]# ps -aef | grep cron root 1200 1 0 Jan05 ?00:00:00 crond root 17364 8290 0 04:02 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/sbin/cronolog /home/v root 17365 8290 0 04:02 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/sbin/cronolog /home/v root 17366 8290 0 04:02 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/sbin/cronolog /home/v root 18530 18528 0 07:01 ?00:00:00 awk -v progname=/etc/cron.hourly [root@ensim admin]# - 2. As a test, as root I created a simple cron job as per below 2.1. crontab -e 2.2. 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * touch /tmp/i-was-here 2.3. Saved the file (It said cron started) I went to /var/spool/cron, and I can see that the cron job was created. Output below -- [root@ensim cron.daily]# cd /var/spool/cron [root@ensim cron]# ls -al total 16 drwx--2 root root 4096 Jan 15 08:39 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Jun 2 2000 .. -rw---1 root root 276 Jan 15 08:39 root [root@ensim cron]# -- As a double check, I tried crontab -l, with this output [root@ensim cron]# crontab -l # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.15106 installed on Tue Jan 15 08:39:25 2002) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $) 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * touch /tmp/i-was-here [root@ensim cron]# But my problem is that when I check the /tmp directory every 5 minutes I see no file called i-was-here . I checked the cron and messages logs in /var/log, and I see nothing that shows that the job is even getting executed. I have gone through Red hat manual about automated tasks, but they do not say much how to debug these kind of issues. Do I have to enter anything in the directories cron.d, cron.daily, etc ... ? If so what do I enter there ? Issue 2: Giving others access to cron === At present on this server, only root and user admin can run crontab. What do I have to do to give other user account that I create access to crontab when they connect via SSH ? Does it matter if the account on Apache is virtual host or IP based site ? Thanks in advance Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RE: Install successful; connection dies @ 40 secs.
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 14:57, Adam Bogacki wrote: Dave, I've done a 'find . -name syslog -print' search and could not find a file by that name. should be in /var/log. my debian systems have a syslog file anyway. maybe messages file instead. Just go to /var/log then do ls -ltr to see which logs have been written to most recently (they'll be at the end of the list). *** Does anyone know what 'signal 15' refers to ? it's the TERM signal, ie. it was shutdown (see 'man kill') but that's referring to inn which I doubt is relevent to your problem (and you probably don't want to be running a news server anyway). I enabled the 'debug' option in /etc/ppp/options but running it again did not give me any error information. I did not find /etc/syslog.conf to be very clear on how to set up an error file. should go to /var/log/debug or else syslog or messages file. try the ls -ltr I suggested above. It's possible it's not setup in /etc/syslog.conf though. I've had no previous trouble with authentification, certainly none with the XP drive, and the lcp echo timeout settings are the standard defaults. Where do I get to read up on lcp echo timeout/interval options ? 'man pppd' and the files under /usr/doc/ppp. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Install successful; connection dies @ 1 min.
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 14:15, Adam Bogacki wrote:
I've had no trouble with primus internet services or the modem before.
I could not find the noccp option in either /etc/ppp/options or in
it's listed in the man page for my pppd ('man pppd')
/etc/ppp/peers (the latter being full of non alpha-numeric symbols).
it's a directory!
Dave.
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[SLUG] More on WINE
Hi, I use Codeweaver WINE successfully to run a proprietary legal research CD and (seldom now since installing OpenOffice.org) M$ Office. However, I have never been able to install these in a Windoze-free system since the setup programs fall over. Is there some trick to getting the setup programs to work? Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.usyd.edu.au/~alant Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 419 638 170 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] right click on an iBook
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Denis Crowdy wrote: On my imac running Debian woody, I have this entry in /etc/sysctl.conf: dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 87 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 88 This gives me a middle button with F11 and a right button with F12. Then restart procps with: /etc/init.d/procps.sh restart Works perfectly how on earth would I have known that without SLUG? David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:10, Peter Hardy wrote: http://crossover.codeweavers.com It's wine, with funky extensions. It was written to let you use win32 plugins in linux-based browsers, but also lets you run the installed programs from the commandline. The newest version, in addition to QuickTime, Word/Excel/PowerPoint viewers, and shockwave, supports WMP. Peter, have you tried out this software? Will it let you run applications too? Is it stable enough to use reliably (not including the instability of the software being run by it ;-)? I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). -- ** * Simon Wong * ** signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I am a guys - but would love to meet linux chix. Computer groups are anti social enough, without having a seperate groups for gals.
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
The utterly stupid thing that we have here is that a bunch of males are the ones who have an opion on this topic So far I have no seen any thing from the ladies side. Does this mean that men have to stick their nose on other peoples business? Or is it that they want to control what happens? Reguardless of your position. :) I am a guys - but would love to meet linux chix. And comments like that are why LinuxChix exists, I suspect. Computer groups are anti social enough, without having a seperate groups for gals. It's like the Debian-SIG in my mind. If you're not interested in Debian, it doesn't matter. Don't go. If you have a special interest that you'd like to have get-togethers for, then go and organise one. Other peoples hobbies and interests aren't your concern. Women that go to SLUG are allowed to meet each other while you're not looking. It's not a crime, or even in any way unreasonable. You could always try to start a LinuxGuys, but I suspect most people don't see any point in doing so. I certainly don't see any. There's plenty of men using Linux that a special support group and general social get-together would be totally redundant. I can however see plenty of merit in LinuxChix. If there's a problem, then it's not with LinuxChix. Calling LinuxChix anti-social is, in my opinion, a symptom of the problem that causes it to exist. Comments like would love to meet linux chix are hardly likely to make women feel welcome and feel equally respected in the community, and that is great shame. If everytime I went to a LUG meeting or posted to a list I felt that everyone was checking me out or thinking he uses linux! And he's a guy! Phwoar! or otherwise making my gender by the major issue in every thing I do in the community, I would be extremely uncomfortable. There's far more to me than the fact that I'm a man, and I suspect most women have a similar opinion of themselves. Put yourself in women's shoes; don't you think there's a reasonable chance you might be offended by people that posted what you just did? Doesn't that alone justify the existence of LinuxChix? I hope I'm not being too presumptuous in defending LinuxChix like this, seeing as I'm not a member and know relatively little about it and its motivations (heck, I don't even know if I'm capitalising its name correctly :). What I have heard about them has been quite positive, though. And finally, apologies for the length. I fear this has grown into a little bit of a rant :( Regards, -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Kevin Saenz Security Analyst mobile: +61418455661 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
Wouldn't the ladies just be talking in the LinuxChix lists? They don't need to contribute to this thread... Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Saenz Sent: Friday, 12 April 2002 10:22 AM To: Andrew Bennetts Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney The utterly stupid thing that we have here is that a bunch of males are the ones who have an opion on this topic So far I have no seen any thing from the ladies side. Does this mean that men have to stick their nose on other peoples business? Or is it that they want to control what happens? Reguardless of your position. :) I am a guys - but would love to meet linux chix. And comments like that are why LinuxChix exists, I suspect. Computer groups are anti social enough, without having a seperate groups for gals. It's like the Debian-SIG in my mind. If you're not interested in Debian, it doesn't matter. Don't go. If you have a special interest that you'd like to have get-togethers for, then go and organise one. Other peoples hobbies and interests aren't your concern. Women that go to SLUG are allowed to meet each other while you're not looking. It's not a crime, or even in any way unreasonable. You could always try to start a LinuxGuys, but I suspect most people don't see any point in doing so. I certainly don't see any. There's plenty of men using Linux that a special support group and general social get-together would be totally redundant. I can however see plenty of merit in LinuxChix. If there's a problem, then it's not with LinuxChix. Calling LinuxChix anti-social is, in my opinion, a symptom of the problem that causes it to exist. Comments like would love to meet linux chix are hardly likely to make women feel welcome and feel equally respected in the community, and that is great shame. If everytime I went to a LUG meeting or posted to a list I felt that everyone was checking me out or thinking he uses linux! And he's a guy! Phwoar! or otherwise making my gender by the major issue in every thing I do in the community, I would be extremely uncomfortable. There's far more to me than the fact that I'm a man, and I suspect most women have a similar opinion of themselves. Put yourself in women's shoes; don't you think there's a reasonable chance you might be offended by people that posted what you just did? Doesn't that alone justify the existence of LinuxChix? I hope I'm not being too presumptuous in defending LinuxChix like this, seeing as I'm not a member and know relatively little about it and its motivations (heck, I don't even know if I'm capitalising its name correctly :). What I have heard about them has been quite positive, though. And finally, apologies for the length. I fear this has grown into a little bit of a rant :( Regards, -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Kevin Saenz Security Analyst mobile: +61418455661 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
P.S. I was impressed that Codeweavers WINE ran Quickbooks error free first time. Other WINE's have had trouble with Quickbooks and MYOB. No more Windows! Yeah! This is good news. Thanks for that. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: Linux movies and songs - was - [SLUG] stopping StarOffice ser vices
Who said it was meant to be good ? as I said... ... another silly song ... Chris On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:37:38 +1000 Dane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was crap. Words do not express. Well they do... that was crap D On 0, Christopher Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of an idea I had of writing a song about linux. (somewhat similar in style to the War of the World's But still they come) A workmate told me aobut this other song which got big on TripleJ called Cows with Guns, I said to him, it's about time for another silly song to hit the charts. Then The Penguins Come. Then the penguins come, crashing through the gates Then the penguins come, the windows start to shake Then the penguins come, the demons are no match Then the penguins co-o-ome, riding on the GNU None can withstand, as they go from land to land Breaking the chains of those bound to the EULAS Sharing the good news, on the slashdot GNUs No more starving people, freshmeat with opensource for all The new Wine is flowing, Sometimes a crowd pleaser. See the penguins dancing Samba, while they're eating pizza. It's like the Sun is rising, with a Big Blue sky. But freely for everyone, you can even still use Vi. The Jobs are no problem mac, they've almost joined the herd. And though they believed Darwin, you can't see Evolution. You just can't stop the tide, that brings the penguins into shore Though they move slow, it's good to know, they've heeded the call Gnomes and other cuties (QT's) are giving it their best To empower the X GUI and liberate the desk Not as easy as it might Ximian, they strive for a common goal To bring more enlightment and functionality to us all Some penguins come with Red Hats, others have yellow dogs They're really posing a threat, as too, some say Lin does Suse and Deb, some wearing slacks, and theres a man called Drake United they will conquer, and new ground they will take Taking over servers, gathering in clusters Shattering the hopes of the bill, they're the windows-busters It marks the end to piracy, that'll catch you in the net By sharing and combining apps, all our needs are met Then the penguins come, crashing through the gates Then the penguins come, the windows start to shake Then the penguins come, the demons are no match Then the penguins co-o-ome, riding on the GNU Enjoy Chris On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:21:38 +1000 Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Croft wrote: Mike and Martin, Thanks for your help. Those services kept rising from the ashes. Yeah we could have a UNIX movie Queen of the Daemons instead of Queen of the Dammned :-) xdm and gdm are like that too, kill'em and up spawns another vampire :-) Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/02 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/02 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 11:22:25AM +1000, Kennedy, Adam wrote: Wouldn't the ladies just be talking in the LinuxChix lists? They don't need to contribute to this thread... The ladies are welcome to do whatever they like, just like the guys and the three-legged gerbils. Over-analysing everyone's actions and motivations is just going to spark pointless flamewars... basically, I don't see this discussion heading anywhere productive. -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] right click on an iBook
David was once rumoured to have said: On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Denis Crowdy wrote: On my imac running Debian woody, I have this entry in /etc/sysctl.conf: dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 87 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 88 This gives me a middle button with F11 and a right button with F12. Then restart procps with: /etc/init.d/procps.sh restart Works perfectly how on earth would I have known that without SLUG? This actually is documented in the kernel documentation tree (IIRC) - but the details are somewhat vauge - the general attitude is if you're using a USB enabled Mac, buy a real 2 or 3 button mouse. (The M$ Optical Wheel mouse works fine with USB Macs + OS X, OS 9 and Linux for example, and they only cost between $40-60). As for the non-USB-enabled powermacs? that can be fixed easily with a ~$60 PCI USB card ;) Almost any OHCI USB card (I bought an elcheapo PC one) can be dropped into any PCI powermac and they'll just work - except under OS 9, which requires that you download and install the USB support extensions, then it just works. In the long term, getting a multi-button mouse will be somewhat more comfortable than using keys on your keyboard for a desktop system - unfortunately laptop mac users are stuck with their internal one-button trackpads unless they like lugging a mouse around with their laptops. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:05:16PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a guys - but would love to meet linux chix. And comments like that are why LinuxChix exists, I suspect. Computer groups are anti social enough, without having a seperate groups for gals. It's like the Debian-SIG in my mind. If you're not interested in Debian, it doesn't matter. Don't go. If you have a special interest that you'd like to have get-togethers for, then go and organise one. Other peoples hobbies and interests aren't your concern. Women that go to SLUG are allowed to meet each other while you're not looking. It's not a crime, or even in any way unreasonable. You could always try to start a LinuxGuys, but I suspect most people don't see any point in doing so. I certainly don't see any. There's plenty of men using Linux that a special support group and general social get-together would be totally redundant. I can however see plenty of merit in LinuxChix. If there's a problem, then it's not with LinuxChix. Calling LinuxChix anti-social is, in my opinion, a symptom of the problem that causes it to exist. Comments like would love to meet linux chix are hardly likely to make women feel welcome and feel equally respected in the community, and that is great shame. If everytime I went to a LUG meeting or posted to a list I felt that everyone was checking me out or thinking he uses linux! And he's a guy! Phwoar! or otherwise making my gender by the major issue in every thing I do in the community, I would be extremely uncomfortable. There's far more to me than the fact that I'm a man, and I suspect most women have a similar opinion of themselves. Put yourself in women's shoes; don't you think there's a reasonable chance you might be offended by people that posted what you just did? Doesn't that alone justify the existence of LinuxChix? I hope I'm not being too presumptuous in defending LinuxChix like this, seeing as I'm not a member and know relatively little about it and its motivations (heck, I don't even know if I'm capitalising its name correctly :). What I have heard about them has been quite positive, though. And finally, apologies for the length. I fear this has grown into a little bit of a rant :( Regards, -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] memory above 64mb.
Hi, Jeff and Slugs in general, Thanks for the replies, Yes the memory problem is fixed. The systemis a Compaq pentium 166 and it is running with 3xSIMMS at 96Mb. This is possible on some configurations. There has been a lot of talk about systems needing pairs on Pentium systems but that is only true on some motherboards - not all of them. Most probably the BIOS software makes it that way. Anyway i've had heaps of Pentium machines with odd numbered simms even down to one. I've posted a reply about debian not recognising the memory but as the problem is with our email system then maybe the email didn't get through. I put the line append="mem=96M" in the "correct" area of lilo.conf and away it went. However we're still having problems with this email box. I'm not surprised as it was running qpopper/exim with 32Mb memory and 350-400 users!96Mb is all it will take. Blessed thing still chugging away 4 years or so since it was first built by someone long gone. I'm not surprised it's having a bit of trouble now as it probably had only a dozen users when first built. Slowly over time people have added users to it and it still has been chugging away. They are thinking of putting in either Exchange/Notes/Groupwise as their email solution. Why not Linux! Anyway i'm building a new box with Postfix at the moment to see how it handles it. There is still the impression that "where do you get support from Linux if no one owns it?" type of thing. As I point out there are heaps of Linux savvy people and companies around that can support it. Trouble is Linux is unheard of by the "IT steering committees". They have only heard about Exchange and Notes. Linux needs to get some credibility with the committees and bean counters before it has a serious look in. How do you do that? Ben
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:52:29PM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:05:16PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a guys - but would love to meet linux chix. And comments like that are why LinuxChix exists, I suspect. Computer groups are anti social enough, without having a seperate groups for gals. It's like the Debian-SIG in my mind. If you're not interested in Debian, it doesn't matter. Don't go. If you have a special interest that you'd like to have get-togethers for, then go and organise one. Other peoples hobbies and interests aren't your concern. Women that go to SLUG are allowed to meet each other while you're not looking. It's not a crime, or even in any way unreasonable. I'd also like to point out that, unless it's any different from the Melbourne chapter, guys are welcome. As long as they're not just there to check out all the LinuxChix. Somehow, I doubt they appreciate being rounded up just to be drooled at. If there's a problem, then it's not with LinuxChix. Calling LinuxChix anti-social is, in my opinion, a symptom of the problem that causes it to exist. Comments like would love to meet linux chix are hardly likely to make women feel welcome and feel equally respected in the community, and that is great shame. Yea, and that's part of the reason why LinuxChix exists. Feel free to go there if you can keep your eyes and tongue in check. And finally, apologies for the length. I fear this has grown into a little bit of a rant :( 'Sall good. :) -- Daniel Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED] DanielS liedra: mind if i sigquote that? liedra sure :) liedra can I sigquote that? cdlu yeah, that's a quote I'm going to have to start using DanielS cdlu: it was growing at the rate of ~5 a day before i realised i was an irc addict, and went out and acquired a life and a gf cdlu daniels: i became an irc addict when i got a sympathetic girlfriend msg22463/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
Simon Wong wrote: On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:10, Peter Hardy wrote: http://crossover.codeweavers.com It's wine, with funky extensions. It was written to let you use win32 plugins in linux-based browsers, but also lets you run the installed programs from the commandline. The newest version, in addition to QuickTime, Word/Excel/PowerPoint viewers, and shockwave, supports WMP. Peter, have you tried out this software? Will it let you run applications too? Is it stable enough to use reliably (not including the instability of the software being run by it ;-)? I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). Re: Office. See the following press release: http://codeweavers.com/about/press_releases/?id=20020327 CodeWeavers CrossOver Office Enables Linux® Users To Run Microsoft Office Lotus Notes® Without Windows® Easy-to-Install Software Eliminates Microsoft OS Licensing Fees; Solution Targets Enterprise Linux Desktop Environments Re: Codeweavers: I'll add to Peter's comments with this: Codeweavers rox! I was quite impressed with their efforts. They remain open source, and charge a small fee for Crossover. (Their excellent WINE is free). And the small fees you do pay are being ploughed back into o/source :) -rickw P.S. I was impressed that Codeweavers WINE ran Quickbooks error free first time. Other WINE's have had trouble with Quickbooks and MYOB. No more Windows! Yeah! -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
Mary, I read up on this stuff, this sounds really great, not only for women. I really think we need a newbies list in Slug with similar policies to the linuxchics list. I wish you all the best, if you want me to listen in on a list and answer techie questions to the best of my ability let me know. The politics I will stay out of :-} KenF Maybe you can convert my wife and daughter :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] memory above 64mb.
Ben Donohue wrote: Blessed thing still chugging away 4 years or so since it was first built by someone long gone. [cut] They are thinking of putting in either Exchange/Notes/Groupwise as their email solution. Why not Linux! [cut] There is still the impression that where do you get support from Linux if no one owns it? type of thing. As I point out there are heaps of Linux savvy people and companies around that can support it. They have only heard about Exchange and Notes. Linux needs to get some credibility with the committees and bean counters before it has a serious look in. How do you do that? You'd think after 4 years of loyal service, the support issue would be moot, especially since the original Linux box was built by 'someone long gone'. Who was supporting it all that time? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] escape character
Hi... I have a C programme which takes parameters like \t or \b etc.. . I have to pass these params from the shell prompt. However when it give \t as a parameter, only the t reaches my program. if i pass \t\x\r , txr is passed to my programme. Is there some way i can get the actual parameter that is passed ? (ie with the escpae characters ) Thanks, saurabh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I have converted both of my parents, but my sister still resists because of MSN Messenger (even though I chat with her using Gabber on my linux box). I wonder if LinuxChix will put out an RFC or guidelines on how to talk to women properly in order to convert them? Curious Karl On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 12:31, Ken Foskey wrote: Mary, I read up on this stuff, this sounds really great, not only for women. I really think we need a newbies list in Slug with similar policies to the linuxchics list. I wish you all the best, if you want me to listen in on a list and answer techie questions to the best of my ability let me know. The politics I will stay out of :-} KenF Maybe you can convert my wife and daughter :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SLUG] escape character
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:25:19PM +1000, Saurabh Shukla wrote: Hi... I have a C programme which takes parameters like \t or \b etc.. . I have to pass these params from the shell prompt. However when it give \t as a parameter, only the t reaches my program. if i pass \t\x\r , txr is passed to my programme. The shell also uses \ as an escape character, so you have to escape it from the shell like so: $ myprogram \\t\\x\\r That is, \\ in the shell will be passed as \ to your program. -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] escape character
You have to use double backslash eg. \\t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have a C programme which takes parameters like \t or \b etc.. . I have to pass these params from the shell prompt. However when it give \t as a parameter, only the t reaches my program. if i pass \t\x\r , txr is passed to my programme. Is there some way i can get the actual parameter that is passed ? (ie with the escpae characters ) Thanks, saurabh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] re Blat Flatteries in Thinkpad.
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:48, Lester Cheung wrote: Oh my god! I wasn't writing English. Guess I shouldn't type while I'm sleeping. Thanks Doug for the info. It would be more handly if you include the address/contact of the shop thou' White pages gave me: PREMIER BATTERIES PTY LTD 9/ 15 Childs Rd Chipping Norton 2170 (02) 9755 1845 Fax (02) 9755 1354 KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:28:16PM +1000, Karl Bowden wrote: I have converted both of my parents, but my sister still resists because of MSN Messenger (even though I chat with her using Gabber on my linux box). I wonder if LinuxChix will put out an RFC or guidelines on how to talk to women properly in order to convert them? Roughly the same way you convert men? BTW, Kopete, GAIM and Everybuddy all do MSN Messenger. -- Daniel Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED] rw ladies and gentleman :D rw in a few minutes i will be having sex ! msg22472/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] escape character
man bash /escape character voila There are three quoting mechanisms: the escape character, single quotes, and double quotes. A non-quoted backslash (\) is the escape character. It preserves the literal value of the next character that follows, with the exception of newline. If a \newline pair appears, and the backslash is not itself quoted, the \newline is treated as a line continuation (that is, it is removed from the input stream and effectively ignored). in other words, you want to escape the \ character with the escape character, \ your command line would be \\t\\x\\r If you've got the source of te program handy, you might want to change the \ character as a delimiter to something less confusing. On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Saurabh Shukla wrote: Hi... I have a C programme which takes parameters like \t or \b etc.. . I have to pass these params from the shell prompt. However when it give \t as a parameter, only the t reaches my program. if i pass \t\x\r , txr is passed to my programme. Is there some way i can get the actual parameter that is passed ? (ie with the escpae characters ) Thanks, saurabh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] right click on an iBook
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 13:16, Peter Hardy wrote: It's explained a little more fully at http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html Once you work out you have to install the USB drivers :-} The page does not clearly state that. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
Andrew Bennetts wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 11:22:25AM +1000, Kennedy, Adam wrote: Wouldn't the ladies just be talking in the LinuxChix lists? They don't need to contribute to this thread... The ladies are welcome to do whatever they like, just like the guys and the three-legged gerbils. I wondered how many groups there are for Linux to do with minority/disciminated etc groups and came up with We have received many emails from people asking if there was also a Linux-users group for gay people. We didn't know of any. So we tried to do a ... http://www.linuxforlesbians.org/ There are many groups for physicaly impaired people. There does not seem to be any chapter for Vampires who use Linux late at night or use their laptops under the coffin lid. Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] memory above 64mb.
You'd think after 4 years of loyal service, the support issue would be moot, especially since the original Linux box was built by 'someone long gone'. Who was supporting it all that time? Uh, no one! it's been sitting there humming away. it's only lately that there have been growing problems with email/DNS in general. I'm not a Linux guru but i'm here, and have just installed primary and secondary DNS for them on Linux. We'll see how Linux goes for email! Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] memory above 64mb.
Hi Ben, If they have only heard of MS Exchange and Notes, Notes has a version of Domino for Linux (as IBM are big supporters of Linux). As for Exchange, Samsung Contact (formerly HP Openmail) has an exchange like end user interface. The reason HP sold Openmail was because Microsoft threatened them as it was directly competing with exchange (These may only be rumours, but I was told this by the head HP sales guy in Melbourne). It is also a cheaper alternative. The websites for these two are: www.samsungcontact.com (new) www.openmail.com (HP's old website) and http://www.lotus.com/home.nsf/welcome/domino Give it a look and see if you can sway them. Regards, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Donohue Sent: Friday, 12 April 2002 12:11 PM To: 'Jeff Allison'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] memory above 64mb. --snip-- They are thinking of putting in either Exchange/Notes/Groupwise as their email solution. Why not Linux! Anyway i'm building a new box with Postfix at the moment to see how it handles it. There is still the impression that where do you get support from Linux if no one owns it? type of thing. As I point out there are heaps of Linux savvy people and companies around that can support it. Trouble is Linux is unheard of by the IT steering committees. They have only heard about Exchange and Notes. Linux needs to get some credibility with the committees and bean counters before it has a serious look in. How do you do that? Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:36:00PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: There does not seem to be any chapter for Vampires who use Linux late at night or use their laptops under the coffin lid. They are called ``coders''. Instead of blood they suck caffine. Anand -- `` We are shaped by our thoughts, we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves. '' -- Buddha, The Dhammapada -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RE: where do you get support from Linux if no one owns it?
There is still the impression that where do you get support from Linux if no one owns it? type of thing. As I point out there are heaps of Linux savvy people and companies around that can support it. Trouble is Linux is unheard of by the IT steering committees. They have only heard about Exchange and Notes. Linux needs to get some credibility with the committees and bean counters before it has a serious look in. How do you do that? an interesting point i've often wondered myself. I think it often comes down to the mentality of if this goes bottom up then we need someone to sue. If you pay Microsoft or Novell $X for their mail solution, and they don't provide, I guess this is a breach of a legal contract, so you can take them to court. But as said in the cathedral and the bazaar when you buy software are you looking for a software solution, or a law suit? if the software has some incredible fault that stops things working the way they should, then even if you pay a C programmer $100 hour for two weeks to fix it to be perfect for you, I'd wager this is still cheaper than any law suit. these steering committees don't understand the feedback loop that is linux in particular and free software in general. i fix this, you add that, together we have something even better. we don't have to do things the old fashioned way any more, locked into vendors with proprietary solutions. the whole world is connected together now, why not use it? i think that in the future, corporations as we know it will disappear. there is some research around that talks about virtual enterprise where people come together, via the internet, to form a corporation to solve a particular problem. this might stay together, this might not -- it doesn't matter because everything is dynamic. sort of like blobs that float around and make bigger or smaller blobs. the internet is the first step in this. software obviously underlies this vision, and this software is going to have to be as amorphous as the structure ontop of it. only free software can perform this role. anyway, back to lunch -i ** CAUTION: This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use or disclosure of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error please notify Mail Administrators immediately. You must obtain all necessary intellectual property clearances before doing anything other than displaying this message on your monitor. There is no intellectual property licence. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Woolworths Ltd. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
More USB ranting :-) (Was: Re: [SLUG] right click on an iBook)
On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 12:50, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 13:16, Peter Hardy wrote: It's explained a little more fully at http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html Once you work out you have to install the USB drivers :-} The page does not clearly state that. Ah, then you go back up to contents page at http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html and start reading the whole thing. :-) I haven't had to read the setup guide for a while, but I remember it being very concise, even if it's starting to get a little dated. But installing USB drivers can usually be summed up fairly simply: Step 1: Install hotplug. Hotplug successfully detects and automatically installs the drivers for every USB device I've tried. -- Pete, the SLUG USB zealot [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's going to be a spontaneous mob stormin' the castle in, oh, half an hour. Put the word out. -- Nanny Ogg (Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:14:54AM +1000, Simon Wong wrote: I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). [ re: Crossover Office ] Not to take anything away from the work that CodeWeavers have done, but I'm still surprised at the number of people who haven't heard of Win4Lin. It runs Windows 9x (95/98/ME) very well, and there are extremely few hiccups with it. Compatibility is extremely high since you're running Windows inside a virtual machine -- but the VM is _much_ faster than VMware. Its downsides are (a) no support for Windows 2000, and (b) basically no DirectX support. However, if you simply want to run Office-ish stuff and Windows applications, it's by far the best thing out there. It's fast, it's stable, and it just works. I bought a copy, I'm going to buy another one soon, and I have no idea how I'd live without it. www.win4lin.com for details. They've mentioned that version 4 is going to be released quite soon, too (within the next few weeks). -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
